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Vittiro
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Posted - 2003.11.19 05:47:00 -
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since the new patch is commin out an its goin take longer to learn skills , i reckon if u r full blood of a race u should get bonus if u fly ur race ship , i dont know wat type of bonus etc i let u decide, but u must be full blood of the race otherwise u dont get it
pls let me know wat u think
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Deros
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Posted - 2003.11.19 09:50:00 -
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i can see it haveing some effect, it could be seen as a sort of "knowledge" of the systems that yout race uses within their fleet.
if you were to use an alternative races ships then you could train a skill, possibly one such as "Amarr Technology" to gain a % of the bonuses for yourself as you learn to be more familiar with the systems.
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Vittiro
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Posted - 2003.11.19 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Vittiro on 19/11/2003 11:19:56
hey deros, yeah thats the idea i wanted to put in, bc since the new patch commin out which titans r commin an they say u learning skills to quick so there changing it so u learn it slower then u r now.i thought it be a good skill to get but make it u can only get the skill for race which u are ;) pls need some more feed bk on idea
ty vittiro corp setenta
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Deprave
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Posted - 2003.11.19 11:22:00 -
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ya know thats a pretty damn good idea...
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2003.11.19 16:24:00 -
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no.
dont do racial things
do factional things.
if you want to get a certain skill - you have to be at X rating to their faction.
don't just play it down straight racial lines.
eg - if you play an amarr pirate who kills amarr newbies... the Amarr empire faction will HATE you, so why would they sell you the skills to use their most prized possessions??
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.19 18:01:00 -
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eg - if you play an amarr pirate who kills amarr newbies... the Amarr empire faction will HATE you, so why would they sell you the skills to use their most prized possessions??
Granted. What you can or can't buy should depend on your *standing* with that race; but having an innate bonus to its use should depend on *being* that race, and having had the benefit of their education.
In other words, an Amarrian pilot who slaughters Amarr newbies and frees lots of slaves wouldn't be allowed to buy an Apocalypse, but if he did somehow get hold of one, he'd have a bonus of some sort in flying it. A Minmatar who slaughtered Minmatar newbies and sold all their crew into Amarr slavery would have no problem buying the Apoc, but he wouldn't have the same bonus.
Apoc's a bad example because they're already available from player-builders regardless of anybody's standing with anything, but you can see what I mean.
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2003.11.19 21:46:00 -
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Actually, language, way of thinking and laying things out... yes these make a diffference and make certain things comfortable.
so i like the idea - but i think it should be a special "skill" that is only available to starter characters (not a sale skill) called "racial familiarity"
which gives bonus say 2% per level to your race specialities -
amarr - pilot amarr ships + cap recharge
caldari - pilot caldari ships + ecm range
gallente - pilot gallente ships + drone range
minmatar - pilot minmatar ships + speed bonues
ie, adds 2% to the value of whatever the ship specialities are, and 2% to the racial speciality.
so, its a difference, but you have to spend more time with the things.
this is basically things like dealing with language differences, cultural differences with crews, different equipment tolerances and measurements.
i would go with that. its not a large _inherent_ bonus, but a small bonus you can increase should you so want.
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Jera
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Posted - 2003.11.19 22:41:00 -
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I would rather give maluses to pilots not flying their race ships.
Everything comes at a price.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.19 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 19/11/2003 23:02:46
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I would rather give maluses to pilots not flying their race ships.
Exactly the same thing. Give same-race an extra 5% that other-race don't get; or give other-race a 4.76% penalty that same-race don't get; the results are identical.
*edit* Just remembered I've fallen into this trap before; the *results* are identical, but the *effect* most definitely isn't. Giving a bonus that only some get will cheer people up; giving a penalty that only some don't get will annoy them, because they're usually too dumb to see the identity.
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Vittiro
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Posted - 2003.11.20 06:33:00 -
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hey everyone ty for the replys still neeed some more . but anyhows wat i was thinking of was maybe introduce a learning skill of ur race which gives u bonus for flyin ur races ships, i dont know wat type of bonus i let u decide on tat . everwere i go i always see a thorax cruiser  not sayin its a bad thing but come on is everyone has a thorax crusier then why have others, every race has there own cruiser with the abilites an also to counter messure each race ship all people gotta do is read about the ship thats why i think races who r in other races ship should get penalised or somthing on that line of . as for newbees players u kill them should also get penalised if they sit out the front an do it maybe something should be done about that but on other hand if newbeeis decide to leave the system eg stain well tats there own bad luck if they get killthey should stay in sys until they join a corpbut i like my bonus idea it might make the game more interesting look forward for ur reply on it
an if it feels like i am whining about it me not just an idea i came up with so all feeed bks would be good on wat ever u decide
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Jera
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Posted - 2003.11.20 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Jera on 20/11/2003 12:09:21
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The bonus way threats the game design (thinks npc balance for example), not the malus one, according to the need to have a way to avoid the malus (here flying your race ships).
Imho, bonus this, bonus that, is not a good way to go. Any advantage should have a price, any choice should have a consequence.
And about the forum whiners, who really worry about them ?
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