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JP Moregain Gallente EVE Reserve Bank	Posted - 2006.12.07 17:52:00 - [91] Edited by: JP Moregain on 07/12/2006 17:52:44 Originally by: Ragnar forumwarrior Originally by: JP Moregain 1) While the OP has some valid points, he pretty much lost me once he start personally assaulting Tuxford. ad hominem arguements are just weak. If you go to a restaurant and get served poo you complain about the chef. Or do you just eat it with a smile? No actually I complain about the food. Calling the chef a son of a ***** is both useless and irrelevant. Please revisit you logic textbooks and look up the definition of an ad hominem arguement. Best Regards, JP http://www.evereserve.com
Ragnar forumwarrior	Posted - 2006.12.07 20:42:00 - [92] Edited by: Ragnar forumwarrior on 07/12/2006 20:43:05 Originally by: JP Moregain No actually I complain about the food. Calling the chef a son of a *** is both useless and irrelevant. Please revisit you logic textbooks and look up the definition of an ad hominem arguement. Best Regards, JP And where have I called Tux a son of a ***? Thats right I didnt Also, it IS the responsabilaty of a chef to serve proper food. He has to aproove the stuff that gets served to the customers just like you can blame a realestate agent if he sells you a house with hidden damages. I refuse to belive that anyone is stupid enough to not realise that more hp = bad for energy weapons/blasters. n00b.
Falcione Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2006.12.07 20:45:00 - [93] New thread title "CCP, Tuxford, This thread, and where are they going?"
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas	Posted - 2006.12.07 20:52:00 - [94] Originally by: Ragnar forumwarrior Edited by: Ragnar forumwarrior on 07/12/2006 17:14:21 Originally by: Roshan longshot OK fish or cut bait "!" I want to know ( so does everyone else ) all of your toon names. Are you stupid? And its not called 'toons' you nub, its called characters. No but I think your full of it...toon,character whatever! Name names or leave the forums for paying customers. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas	Posted - 2006.12.07 20:53:00 - [95] Originally by: Anonymous Coward Originally by: Roshan longshot I love it when a "!" tries to be a smartarse. The map adds more flavor, the functions it offers far exceed previous map. Considering that there are currently 15m SP characters with !, it's idiotic and nothing but a poorly done ad hom anyways to try to refute someone by pointing out the status of their portrait. But it is somthing to have fun with "!" are funny! Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
JP Moregain Gallente EVE Reserve Bank	Posted - 2006.12.07 21:04:00 - [96] Originally by: Ragnar forumwarrior Edited by: Ragnar forumwarrior on 07/12/2006 20:43:05 Originally by: JP Moregain No actually I complain about the food. Calling the chef a son of a *** is both useless and irrelevant. Please revisit you logic textbooks and look up the definition of an ad hominem arguement. Best Regards, JP And where have I called Tux a son of a *? Thats right I didnt Also, it IS the responsabilaty of a chef to serve proper food. He has to aproove the stuff that gets served to the customers just like you can blame a realestate agent if he sells you a house with hidden damages. I refuse to belive that anyone is stupid enough to not realise that more hp = bad for energy weapons/blasters. n00b. You will note that my post was directed at the OP who used phrases such as: 'Tuxford and lesser minds like that' Please re-read my statement about what I don't say** to chefs and what you wrote in response and tell me how your response is either accurate or relevent. Here is a hint: it's not, it is a straw man arguement. Please refer to logic textbook yet again. I await your next demonstration of flawed arguments. Best Regards, JP http://www.evereserve.com
X3vious	Posted - 2006.12.07 21:06:00 - [97] Edited by: X3vious on 07/12/2006 21:06:58 Whats with the disclaimer? Is your corp so far up their arses ( :-) <-- ) that you actually need one? Originally by: Miss Overlord its xmas they will press on with kali 2 might balance some things then. its xmas they will press on with kali 2 might balance some things then. These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views This is a disclaimer
Ragnar forumwarrior	Posted - 2006.12.07 21:22:00 - [98] Originally by: JP Moregain Please re-read my statement about what I don't say to chefs Ah so once again you wouldn't complain about the chef, you would instead write a harsh letter to the meat supplier of the restaurant you visited? As far as logic goes, I'd recommend you to follow your own advice.
Charterlacks Geishas	Posted - 2006.12.07 21:32:00 - [99] People act like Tuxford has sole creative control over every aspect of EVE. It is...fascinating.
Herculite Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.07 21:32:00 - [100] Edited by: Herculite on 07/12/2006 21:33:16 CCP rarely posts in threads where players have a legitimate point. This is standard for all MMO's since posting would only make it worse. They do tend to like to post in threads where either the original poster was way off base, or its in fact something they are working on a solution for (minor issues normally). I will bet they have read this thread though, as if they didn't read these threads they wouldn't know to post on the fluff ones and avoid the hard hitting ones. Its obvious to anyone that 'Relevations' is really Kali, and that is a beta. It was obviously rushed, as can be seen by the fact they were still making major balance/ship changes just prior to its release. I think they tried to do too much to too many things. We had huge changes with escrow, the map, scanning, ships, rigs and pvp balance. Some of the issues have really diminished my desire to play so I'm hoping and waiting to see if they come up with a solution to the nagging issues.
JP Moregain Gallente EVE Reserve Bank	Posted - 2006.12.07 21:42:00 - [101] Originally by: Ragnar forumwarrior Originally by: JP Moregain Please re-read my statement about what I don't say to chefs Ah so once again you wouldn't complain about the chef, you would instead write a harsh letter to the meat supplier of the restaurant you visited? As far as logic goes, I'd recommend you to follow your own advice. Making irrelevant and inaccurate statements 2x does not make it any more powerful of a method. No, I would complain about the food to my waiter and the manager and not visit the restaurant again. Buh-bye... Please visit the following while the door hits you on the way out... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_troll JP http://www.evereserve.com
Jaguar Dragon Blood Association of Dragons	Posted - 2006.12.07 21:57:00 - [102] i have been posting about all these differant new toys ccp said they were adding for weeks. everyone called me lazy and didn;t know what i was talking about. i agree totaly with op. invention is none existant at this moment for atleast a few reasons. 1: there are no deadspace sigs out there. and cc posted months ago that there would be 10 sigs for every system in eve.. kali patch notes say a few to even none. and they don't stay around long enough, there respawning out after maybe an hour.. they need to stay all day, let them respawn at dt. but have every system by sec lvl have a fixed number of sigs to scan. like maybe 5 for 1.0 and adding 1 or 2 for each sec lvl you go down. 2: reduce dramatically the rp's needed for data cores.. at present the requirement is way way to high. 3: make it easy over all 4: let us the players decide how many data cores we want .. i for one would like to turn in all rp's from say one agent, this would open a r&d slot for me to go to another agent to get researching for another type of data core. contract: you must make it posible for global view and remote buy..other wise this system is nothing more than a hugh nerf. rigs. i see changes happening here daily,, so far the total numbers of rig components seems to be fine. however the selection of type of rig comps is not good.. this is making somw of the 36 type of rig comps, too rare some suggestions.. and i like the baby seal analagy. these children need to be replace with adults, and professional thinkers. this is an adult game and there just making a childrens game. children think in there ways,, adult think in there ways.. this game needs adult thinkers. not children who play alot of games do not make them good developers
Nymos Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.07 21:58:00 - [103] yes, so what did revelations bring... ships: like someone said, the new ships aren't new at all except for the rokh - which is totally uberastic. tux wants to nerf range and introduces the most uber sniper gunship ever. let's try sniping with antimatter. makes the old BSs obsolete. the other ships... let's look at minmatar: the tier3 bs is a bs based on cyclone. the tier2 bc is a bc based on tempest. looking at bonuses and layout. i would like to get paid for that kind of creative work too, please. probes: i agree the old scanning system was really stupid, but at least it required player skills. a good cov ops pilot was a real asset for any corp. now... every idiot can select a probe with appropriate range, drop it and warp to the result. lag: you are kidding, ccp, right? first, bad h4xx0rz pwnt the server by copying bookmarks. copying nerfed. then it's the amount of bookmarks. bookmarks replaced by warp-to-zero. bookmarks still there. bookmarks get deleted (at least that was announced). servers are still in the same **ty state as they have been for 2-3 months. what's the next excuse? blizzard h4x1ng tranq? noob boost: how much more? the difference between 250k and 800k is worth like 2 weeks of training for an advanced player. not much? bah it is. everyone can blow up a new player with ease, those extra 600k make no difference. why not just boost all skill choices to those originally max 250k sp? if not, how about you could have added 600ish k sp to the skill currently training for everyone? if that exceeds the remaining sp to train, though luck. would have been in the patch notes. map: the single most useless feature. the map is utterly useless now. even with setting it to "instant", it rotates, zooms and whatnot driving you nuts. you need info immediately, no time for fluffy animations. looks neat? how cool is that if you have hostiles in local and need a quick look at the map to see which route to take to get the hell outta where you are? i couldn't do it. every time my mouse moved over a star twohundredfiftythousand layers cascaded with worthless info about that system. i know the whole region is 0.0 - i don't need a window showing it's nosec. then a list of orbitting items pops. i dont care what floats around in that system. then other pops up while trying to get rid of the previous windows. the map doesn't offer a way to show all system names. i used to circumvent that by mousing over stars. doesnt work anymore. now i need the offline map as a pdf file. ccp should hire ombey. he knows what is useful. contracts: i haven't used escrow that much, and i've not looked at contracts yet. at least wtz isn't skill based, but this is another time sink, i don't care about spending time on silly contract skills. the market is one of the major building blocks of eve. nerf it? one of the most silly things to do. yes, people used escrow to save taxes. could have just nerfed that so you can't put up stuff on escrow that is tradeable on the market. rigs: please refer to countless other posts. atm they can hardly be built and they don't look balanced at all. it's just like "ok, lets start with this and add a random penalty for the whole category of rigs. the penalties were not set with possible setups in mind, they're just all the same in individual categories..." invention: like rigs. too complicated to do. noone cares. t2: yea sure nerf it. should the training time spent on certain skills not be rewarded with a real difference to t1? hp boost: throws lots of things out of balance. what was bad previously? just the cap increase totally shifted balance. i'm not saying it was perfectly balanced before, but it was fine. i used to be a fanboi right after kali went live, but now that i had more time to look at stuff in detail it turns out that all those features are the **. i'm sry. if someone asks "can i have your stuff". - yes you can. bullet for bullet, torp for torp up your rear end :P --
M345S12U9	Posted - 2006.12.07 22:01:00 - [104] Originally by: Charterlacks Geishas People act like Tuxford has sole creative control over every aspect of EVE. It is...fascinating. Yeah, To be honest, I would rather avoid blaming Tuxford or anyone personally for very simple reason. We don't know how something came to be the way we see. You might know Tuxford as "that bad guy who made it all wrong" only because he was posting info on the forum or writing blog about something. But in fact dozens of people are involved in the process, a lot of stuff happens during long time to came to the result we see. However, you can step back and look at the big picture, and this picture looks very dim as original poster said. CCP as a company is spreading its attention while unable to do main (for us) purpose - improve EVE.
Radioactive Babe	Posted - 2006.12.07 22:06:00 - [105] Originally by: Nymos ......... true dat ................... if someone asks "can i have your stuff". - yes you can. bullet for bullet, torp for torp up your rear end :P Tuxford was looking for your stuff snicker alas, poor risk vs reward, I knew you well
Jaguar Dragon Blood Association of Dragons	Posted - 2006.12.07 22:08:00 - [106] i'd like to make one thing very clear. do you all remeber when kali was introduced to us the first time and the schedule for deployment. was introduced fall of 2005. kali 1 deployment anounced by ccp in nov 2005 to be realised late q 2 2006,, thats june past in my book,, 7 months ago.. so don't say they were rushed or give them excusses to there crappy job.. what happened was CHINA we here on tranq took a back seat and are still there. i would not be surprised to think that ccp is using us and tranq as the test marketing for CHINA. just some notes for all of you remember
Ghitza Backup Squad	Posted - 2006.12.07 22:21:00 - [107] I agree with OP. Im really suprised that some ppl are defending CPP. Need glases?
lordbalan	Posted - 2006.12.07 22:33:00 - [108] I know its early days, but I do not like the latest changes, on top of that the performance of the servers with lag, queues, and dropouts is a joke. We keep making excuses for CCP but I personally have just about had enough. Its bad enough the latest patch has ruined some aspects of the game which were fine before, but the game is becoming unplayable and tedious with these hardware issues. I will not be renewing my subs unless things inprove, and thats a shame because it was and could be the EvE I loved to play
Letouk Mernel	Posted - 2006.12.07 23:08:00 - [109] Originally by: Herculite Its obvious to anyone that 'Relevations' is really Kali, and that is a beta. It was obviously rushed, as can be seen by the fact they were still making major balance/ship changes just prior to its release. ... Some of the issues have really diminished my desire to play so I'm hoping and waiting to see if they come up with a solution to the nagging issues. Yeah, it's the way CCP usually operates. Quick test on Sisi, then throw it on TQ and let us debug it, while of course paying. Unfortunately for them, the one thing Blizzard brought to the MMO genre is: most players won't put up with CRAP anymore, and will expect polish, and professional customer support. This game has, always had, potential, and original concepts and ideas. It really sucks though in the bugs, stability, and support areas. And, some of the posters above me are right, EVE is old, perhaps they've decided to focus primary development efforts somewhere else, and let this game linger on, supported by the backup team. Too bad.
Von Zarovick The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.08 20:34:00 - [110] this is so true.
Gut Punch Gallente The Revenant	Posted - 2006.12.08 23:35:00 - [111] I couldn't agree more with the OP's point about CCP moving out of EVE. While I will not go so far as beating on Tuxford, simply cause I've seen were the devs were just implimenting the higher ups requests, I do think that the overall effort being put into the game has dropped way off. They messed up by not having something major, like the Dx10/New Graphics Engine switch over, happen first. And I also think their QA people are out to lunch 24x7x365. Anyone who sits down with the game for 5 minutes, with the intent to play, will run across all sorts of issues. I believe the CCP and White Wolf merger just goes to show that they are looking, corporately, to move on. This isn't a bad thing for them. Corporations are supposed to be making their share holders happy by constantly making more and more products for people to consume. Despite what some people think in the forums, CCP is NOT out to make you a game. They are in business to sell products. Its a side effect of trying to make money that you get to play EVE. So if you don't like the current direction you see the game going, move on. It is your money, you decide what is best. Feel free to suggest things, to bring up concerns on issues you have, and even complain until you reach your heart's desire. But don't expect a thing to change. If you want an example, just look at SWG. How long did people do all of the above before the devs finally figured it out? Well probably after everyone left... --- Gut Punch The Revenant --- Playing as Caldari is EVE on Easy Mode...
Jap theBlind Minmatar The Wanderers	Posted - 2006.12.09 00:31:00 - [112] Originally by: Fortior CCP have stated time and time again that T2 is not supposed to be every mans property. You are wrong. A dev recently wrote: 'maybe it's time T2 becomes the norm'. I don't recall of the dev's name, but I'm pretty sure I quoted him exactly. On topic, if lag only allowed to play the game I bet complaints wouldn't be so harsh, that people would a bit more patient. But when for monthes (it's much more than a year that lag issues went out of control) neither the code optimisations or new hardware can cope with the load, we are simply playing a bad game. Lag-wise, EVE is not better than Anarchy-Online at launch.
res0nance Dark Cartel	Posted - 2006.12.09 01:16:00 - [113] 100% agree with the OP's post. Originally by: Xaroth Brook Some retarded stuff with lots of capitalization They're always just "looking into it" - we want results, not assurances.

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