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Abbadon Wrath	Posted - 2006.12.07 10:08:00 - [1] I'm not to usualy whine, but I'm a little ****ed off. I was really looking forward to getting into exploration. I've spent the last 2 weeks training Astro V so I can use the sift probes and start finding these new agents and plexes, etc and start making some ISKies. 2 weeks. I could have trained something else in this time, like finishing my Blaster skills so I can start using Large T2 blasters, I could have train up the main and secondary skills for damps, I could have train Jump Drive Operation IV, Jump Fuel Conservation IV and Gal Carrier IV, I could have have trained up so I can use interceptors, any number of things that are currently on my skill que list, but I chose to train Astro V cause it was need for the exploration probes. Except, now its not needed, astro V is needed and I've wasted 2 weeks on nothing. CCP, can you please move the SP trained over time from Astro V into one/2 of the skills I mentioned here, cause I think this is bang out of order... same with the salvaging skills. P.S. (this is my alt, my main account got closed cause of a stolen CC, waiting for my new one to arrive, so I can't even chage the fscking skill now )
Sophia Germain Gallente Fluxion	Posted - 2006.12.07 10:12:00 - [2] I know just how you feel. I spent a while training up survey to lv5 to train up salvaging, and suddenly the requirement got lowered to lv3. If nothing else, we should at least have the option to move the skillpoints around IF CCP decides to lower the initial skill requirements to train up something new.
trimdonite	Posted - 2006.12.07 10:21:00 - [3] im glad i never decided to train for salvaging. i know id be pretty ticked off right now if i had
Makree Ubar Asteroid Hugging Collective	Posted - 2006.12.07 10:26:00 - [4] You do know that it is your arse you sit on and your elbow is the bendy thing in the middle of your arm. If you are serious about using probes then you will have Astrometrics 5.
Xaroth Brook Minmatar Doomcraft	Posted - 2006.12.07 10:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Sophia Germain I know just how you feel. I spent a while training up survey to lv5 to train up salvaging, and suddenly the requirement got lowered to lv3. If nothing else, we should at least have the option to move the skillpoints around IF CCP decides to lower the initial skill requirements to train up something new. you should have read the patchnotes.. so you could have aborted between 4 and 5 and have half a week of training in something 'more useful'. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Xaroth Brook Brainiac of Doomcraft
Abbadon Wrath	Posted - 2006.12.07 10:29:00 - [6] Originally by: Makree You do know that it is your arse you sit on and your elbow is the bendy thing in the middle of your arm. If you are serious about using probes then you will have Astrometrics 5. Agree'ed, but I don't NEED it to use them effectively, I can specialise later, I have other things I need to do before I can sit down and start maxing skills out.
Abbadon Wrath	Posted - 2006.12.07 10:31:00 - [7] Edited by: Abbadon Wrath on 07/12/2006 10:31:12 Originally by: Xaroth Brook Originally by: Sophia Germain I know just how you feel. I spent a while training up survey to lv5 to train up salvaging, and suddenly the requirement got lowered to lv3. If nothing else, we should at least have the option to move the skillpoints around IF CCP decides to lower the initial skill requirements to train up something new. you should have read the patchnotes.. so you could have aborted between 4 and 5 and have half a week of training in something 'more useful'. That still doesn't make it right. Also, no patch notes for the change to skill requirements on probes.
The Snowman Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.12.07 10:57:00 - [8] In a previous thread a Dev said that they are looking are giving additional bonus's for skills like these which are trained to level 5.. along with other "skills which need some love" So your training time wont be completly wasted, you just need a bit of patience. <------------> Poker RPG 60 jumps 'Flop' by..
Tension	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:02:00 - [9] wtf, this wasn't in the patch notes. Well great, thats 2 weeks wasted. What a disturbing trend - can we get a statement from CCP on this please? Will this continue? Is there any point in training any level 5 skill because as soon as you've trained it, CCP makes it so any noob can use it. ffs CCP, stop*ing about with skill requirements, ok?
Phyrr Minmatar The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:04:00 - [10] You people make me sad.
Tension	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Phyrr You people make me sad.
Niccolado Starwalker	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:10:00 - [12] In a MMORPG things alwys change. Nothing ever lasts forever. Nothing stays the same forever. And all the time, there are tweaks and tunes and adjustments. This you should know! I can understand that you feel like have wasted 2 weeks training level 5, but honestly such things happends from time to time, and theres no reason to be angry because of it. After all, when a skill is trained it stays forever. So, Embrace the changes and carry on!
Wulinshu	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:14:00 - [13] Originally by: Tension wtf, this wasn't in the patch notes. It's funny you should say that.....
DarkFenix Caldari Pilots From Honour	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:14:00 - [14] Quit moaning, it's not like Eve is one of those MMOs with a level cap. Someone who looked after my account for a while decided it would be a good idea to train freighter to level 5. Do I own a freighter? No. Did I complain? No.
Kya Flame	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:17:00 - [15] Edited by: Kya Flame on 07/12/2006 11:19:19 I don't want to offend but I'm afraid this is gonna. Stop whining. You think you have something to whine about. Your problem is small. You want to know what a real subject to complain about would be? How about this. My friend on here started this game months ago. They decided that before they trained any practical skills they would first get all learning skills trained up. He spent weeks getting all his skills up so that the overall time on everything else woul be lowered. Then I joined the game. Not long before the patch came out. When the patch came out he was just coming up to 980,000 skill points. And remember it took him weeks to get there. Most of those skill points were in learning. Then the patch came out and bingo, overnight I was less then 100,000 points behind him. They boosted all the new players. A fact that I am perfectly happy with because I didn't fancy spending weeks training my learning skills. Overnight, all my learning skills and half my other skills were level 4. The new-ish players who had reached 900,000 skill points and above have the real reason to complain. So you lost two weeks, big deal!!! Many of the new-ish players lost months. And I personally say hats off to them. I'm not sure I would have been able to stay composed if I had spent months trainng my skills and overnight every new player in the game was roughly the same level as me. I'd be f**king livid.
Phyrr Minmatar The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:19:00 - [16] Originally by: Tension Originally by: Phyrr You people make me sad. thats exactley why you people make me sad
Li Seung	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker In a MMORPG things alwys change. Nothing ever lasts forever. Nothing stays the same forever. And all the time, there are tweaks and tunes and adjustments. This you should know! I can understand that you feel like have wasted 2 weeks training level 5, but honestly such things happends from time to time, and theres no reason to be angry because of it. After all, when a skill is trained it stays forever. So, Embrace the changes and carry on! You are right, and yes I'm just annoyed (like the OP) at having specifically diverted my skill training for this. I know astrometrics V isn't a useless skill to have, but in the scheme of my current skill training It dosnt warrant 2 weeks of training when I could be most of the way through a far more useful level V skill (I switched from Heavy Drones V for it). I'm not going to cancel accounts or anything melodramatic like that, I just think CCP have made some strange decisions recently :S It wasn't even in the patch notes. At least CCP could have announced the change, or did they think they could stealth it out and we wouldn't notice?
Tension	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:22:00 - [18] Originally by: Phyrr Originally by: Tension Originally by: Phyrr You people make me sad. thats exactley why you people make me sad did you have a point to make?
Trixu	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:25:00 - [19] This is simply too funny. People will always find something to whine about. Now if they had chosen to UP the SP req's for these things I could understand it - meaning you would have trained to be ready for this, only to find you would need MORE skills for it...but no, they actually lowered the req's, and still the whines come. "Time wasted"... Come on its not like you actually "Grinded" anything here. Sounds like this is your first mmorpg. Funny stuff :)
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:27:00 - [20] Originally by: Kya Flame Edited by: Kya Flame on 07/12/2006 11:19:19 I don't want to offend but I'm afraid this is gonna. Stop whining. You think you have something to whine about. Your problem is small. You want to know what a real subject to complain about would be? How about this. My friend on here started this game months ago. They decided that before they trained any practical skills they would first get all learning skills trained up. He spent weeks getting all his skills up so that the overall time on everything else woul be lowered. Then I joined the game. Not long before the patch came out. When the patch came out he was just coming up to 980,000 skill points. And remember it took him weeks to get there. Most of those skill points were in learning. Then the patch came out and bingo, overnight I was less then 100,000 points behind him. They boosted all the new players. A fact that I am perfectly happy with because I didn't fancy spending weeks training my learning skills. Overnight, all my learning skills and half my other skills were level 4. The new-ish players who had reached 900,000 skill points and above have the real reason to complain. So you lost two weeks, big deal!!! Many of the new-ish players lost months. And I personally say hats off to them. I'm not sure I would have been able to stay composed if I had spent months trainng my skills and overnight every new player in the game was roughly the same level as me. I'd be f**king livid. Maybe they "lost" months of training, but they were playing. This is a game to play, not get all animated about how many skillpoints you have.
Tension	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:27:00 - [21] Originally by: Wulinshu Originally by: Tension wtf, this wasn't in the patch notes. It's funny you should say that..... Well, was it? If I'm wrong, correct me...I've even searched the text of the patch notes to make sure I'm not being blind. Originally by: DarkFenix Someone who looked after my account for a while decided it would be a good idea to train freighter to level 5. Do I own a freighter? No. Did I complain? No. Your breaking of the EULA has very little to do with this topic I think...we're talking about changes made by the devs. And @ Kya: Yeah I'd be annoyed if I was your friend...another of CCP's strange decisions.
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:34:00 - [22] Originally by: Crumplecorn You gambled. You lost. Personally I didn't bet any skill training time ~~or ISK~~ on CCP getting a new feature ~~right~~ finalised on the day of release. The world doesn't work that way. For my investment of 0SP ~~and 0ISK~~, I got a return of "laughing at people who sunk ~~money~~ SP into a feature that didn't exist yet and lost out when it didn't work out". That's a damn good deal. My post from the invention thread needs virtually no rewording to fit this one. Now all I need is one about salvaging and I have a complete set. Originally by: Abbadon Wrath I chose to train Astro V cause it was need for the exploration probes. Except, now its not needed, astro V is needed This bit confuses me ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Coupo Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:38:00 - [23] Edited by: Coupo on 07/12/2006 11:40:38 Originally by: DarkFenix MINGE I always knew you were an empire ***. But hes got a point, so you trained skill A to 5.. ive got ECM skills to 5 and i hate ECM, go figure. Originally by:** Crumplecorn Originally by: Abbadon Wrath I chose to train Astro V cause it was need for the exploration probes. Except, now its not needed, astro V is needed This bit confuses me I think he means astrometrics and astrogeology or something, they both start with astro atleast. I Shoot first, ask questions about your veldspar mining technique later
Tension	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:45:00 - [24] Originally by: Crumplecorn You gambled. You lost. Yeah. But the guy had aces up his sleeves :P As I said, I don't think its the end of the world or the sky is falling. I know that loads of exclamation marks will spout words like 'whine' every time anyone expresses displeasure about something, but its our right to do so and I'd like the devs to know I think what they've done here is a bit sloppy. Everyone wants to get into some new content when it gets released, I chose exploration because it interests me. What's so strange about starting training for something immediately? Sure, next time I'll think twice about it. tbh, I'm more displeased about them not even telling us the changed it than the change itself. If you made a mistake, face up to it.
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:51:00 - [25] Originally by: Tension Originally by: Crumplecorn You gambled. You lost. Yeah. But the guy had aces up his sleeves :P As I said, I don't think its the end of the world or the sky is falling. I know that loads of exclamation marks will spout words like 'whine' every time anyone expresses displeasure about something, but its our right to do so and I'd like the devs to know I think what they've done here is a bit sloppy. Everyone wants to get into some new content when it gets released, I chose exploration because it interests me. What's so strange about starting training for something immediately? Sure, next time I'll think twice about it. tbh, I'm more displeased about them not even telling us the changed it than the change itself. If you made a mistake, face up to it. Oh I have no problem with people whining at the devs about new things not working or changes being made, I just like to point out that misinvested ISK/SP are not CCP's fault. Anyway, what is the change? The first last and only thing I heard was astrometrics 5 to use exploration probes, and when I checked in game the other day it was correct. I am also planning to get into exploring, as it interests me greatly, but only after it has settled down. ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Kya Flame	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:55:00 - [26] Whether this is whining or a simple expression of something that displeases you is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that in a game with as many players as Eve any change and I mean ANY change will annoy someone. There are a million different styles of playing and new ideas being dreamed up every day in this game. CCP if you ever find a way to please every single player in the game without any exception then I think you will probably ascend to god-hood because lets face it you would have created a miracle. Personally I think CCP are doing a great job. There are aspects I think still need a lot of work. I still think the bounty system is a joke. I'm still going to play because eventually I think players expressing their views like this will give CCP the ideas they need to fix things.
Tension	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:56:00 - [27] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Tension Originally by: Crumplecorn You gambled. You lost. Yeah. But the guy had aces up his sleeves :P As I said, I don't think its the end of the world or the sky is falling. I know that loads of exclamation marks will spout words like 'whine' every time anyone expresses displeasure about something, but its our right to do so and I'd like the devs to know I think what they've done here is a bit sloppy. Everyone wants to get into some new content when it gets released, I chose exploration because it interests me. What's so strange about starting training for something immediately? Sure, next time I'll think twice about it. tbh, I'm more displeased about them not even telling us the changed it than the change itself. If you made a mistake, face up to it. Oh I have no problem with people whining at the devs about new things not working or changes being made, I just like to point out that misinvested ISK/SP are not CCP's fault. Anyway, what is the change? The first last and only thing I heard was astrometrics 5 to use exploration probes, and when I checked in game the other day it was correct. I am also planning to get into exploring, as it interests me greatly, but only after it has settled down. Looks like they stealthed it in with yesterday's patch - all exploration probes now require Astro IV.
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.07 11:58:00 - [28] Originally by: Tension Looks like they stealthed it in with yesterday's patch - all exploration probes now require Astro IV. FFS. Do they want mini professions or not? FFS. I was glad it was astro 5, for the same reason I was glad salvaging was survey 5. FFS. Why are the ignoring what's broken and fixing what's working? Did I mention for **** sake? ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Kitana Bane	Posted - 2006.12.07 12:07:00 - [29] Originally by: Omega Man Originally by: Kya Flame Edited by: Kya Flame on 07/12/2006 11:19:19 snip How about this. My friend on here started this game months ago. snip Then I joined the game. Not long before the patch came out. When the patch came out he was just coming up to 980,000 skill points. And remember it took him weeks to get there. Most of those skill points were in learning. Then the patch came out and bingo, overnight I was less then 100,000 points behind him. They boosted all the new players. snip The new-ish players who had reached 900,000 skill points and above have the real reason to complain. So you lost two weeks, big deal!!! Many of the new-ish players lost months. And I personally say hats off to them. I'm not sure I would have been able to stay composed if I had spent months trainng my skills and overnight every new player in the game was roughly the same level as me. I'd be f**king livid. Maybe they "lost" months of training, but they were playing. This is a game to play, not get all animated about how many skillpoints you have. Ahh -but one can argue that playing with low skills is not nearly as much fun. :) After all with low skill points you are on the bottom of the food chain. Way, WAY down. Kind of sucks that now a new player gets to the same place it took you weeks to get. :))
Abbadon Wrath	Posted - 2006.12.07 12:07:00 - [30] This is my point. I don't mind investing the time if I want to do something, it's my time. But now they have changed it and it's time wasted. And all you people saying "omg, you go to play the game", true, but if you didn't have a skill training for 2 weeks, you'd be *****ing too.

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