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The Knight
Gallente
The Crucible
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:31:00 -
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I fly a heavy tank Nos domi almost everyday. There are some huge misconceptions out there about this ship and I would encourage many of you who have never really flown one or fought one to get out there and give it a try.
First of all, a Domi does not do a hell of a lot of DPS, nowhere near the amount of DPS a Hyp or a Mega can do. Drones do cumulative damage over a period of time and quickly enough that it may not be possible for some ships and players (depending on skill) to repair it.
Secondly, I fly a cap injected Domi...so saying people rarely use them on this ship is just not true. Its even more true today than it was weeks ago because with warp to zero, there is almost no reason to ever put on an AB.
Third, if a nano-phoon or a nano-domi or anything else big that is flying around with a mwd and staying within the 20km's needed to scramble me, I will either nos the living crap out of it, web it with weber drones (1 will do), or simply warp away because they wouldn't stay close enough to scram me.
If you want to kill a Nos domi....just do more damage than the Domi can repair, keep pressure on his cap, and be able sustain his damage as much as possible. A mega with 2-nos and an injector and decent large blaster skills can wear down a domi's tank and a Hyperion can be a nightmare.
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Jimmycs83
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Jimmycs83 on 08/12/2006 12:57:32
megathron
7*Neutron blaster cannon IIs + null L
MWD, med cap injector, 20km scram, sensor booster II
LAR II, EANM II, DCU, 1600mm plate, 3*dmg mods
5*Heavy ECM drones
most nos-domis wont actually be carry more than three heavy nos .. just stay out of the range of the med nos at about 15km ... ecm drones usually will keep an opponent jammed for quite a large part of any fight. Beaten a few Nos domis this way.
JimmyCS
EDIT : typos
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Jeanpierre Duvall
Caldari
Spectral Armada
Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:19:00 -
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Hmm.. If for some damned reason you know that you are going 1v1 against a domi a Raven with 6 Torp II 2 Heavy Neut's and a passive tank low is 3 BCU II and 2 SPR's. Oh and a 20km Scram. You deplete Yours and his cap so that he can't use the reppers. And then just out damage him. And hope to god that he isn't smart enough to cram in 1-2 Cap boosters. 
And tada in this very specific scenario you win. 
"Why did I even answer to this."
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velocoraptor
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:20:00 -
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Many good posts above (some clueless too).
I have an uber-leet solo-pvp Domi setup, which I have never had the pleasure of trying (not sissy) in a real 1v1. I have killed a lot of ppl with it, again NOT 1v1. Even killed 3 frigs which stupidly stayed long enough to get locked. I'm pretty sure it's a very good 1v1 ship, though I agree it could lose to a 2-3 Nos Hyperion (maybe even mega). While nossing each other (Domi maybe a bit more, but not much and hyp could sustain cap with injector), the hype pilot should concentrate on killing domi's drones with his (or even guns-can large blasters track webbed heavies??, think yes). No way the Domi could kill the hype in that time. After that, it's just a one-way fight.
Anyway, fact is I have lost said Domi twice getting blobbed. I.e. 1v1 rarelly happen, bring friends. If u insist on 1v1, fit nos, it's i-win atm rly....
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Kharak'khan
Beer and Kebabs
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:50:00 -
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A BS, Smart Bombs and a cap injector or a couple of nos as well and a mild flavour of tank.
He flies in launches drones, which you smart bomb they all die. You stop the smart bombs, He launches wave two you smart bomb them (you get the picture!).
This only works if he has no guns and once he is drone less pour drones onto him or cap inject and use it up all quickly with bombs so he cant rep. If you dont win its a stalemate.
Used this on an APoc and if nothing else its worth a laugh :).
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Arshes Nei
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2006.12.08 14:39:00 -
[66]
 Originally by: Kharak'khan
A BS, Smart Bombs and a cap injector or a couple of nos as well and a mild flavour of tank.
He flies in launches drones, which you smart bomb they all die. You stop the smart bombs, He launches wave two you smart bomb them (you get the picture!).
This only works if he has no guns and once he is drone less pour drones onto him or cap inject and use it up all quickly with bombs so he cant rep. If you dont win its a stalemate.
Used this on an APoc and if nothing else its worth a laugh :).
Since when are there npcs who deploy drones? Even a rather stupid player should notice that you kill his drones with your smarties, he will just wait till your smartys run out of cap and then launch his second wave. There is no way your capacitor will survive smartbombusage AND being nossed by a domi even if you have a couple of nos yourself.
There is really no reason why a domi pilot would want to throw his drones into a smartbombing BS, and since he is slowly killing your cap there is no reason why he should.
But lets assume your enemy is a idiot and your cap is miracously holding up your tank and 3 large smartys and the nos, just for fun. Lets also assume the hostile domi pilot doesnt have top skills, only drone durability 4 and gal BS 3. It would still take you more than half a min to kill his first wave of ogre, and im assuming your smartys ignore resistances.
Also the few times people tried in the tournament to fight drones with smartys usually ended horribly, and not for the droneuser. Smartys just use to much cap to even dream of using them against a nosship.
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Seishomaru
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:01:00 -
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With a concord or Jovian Battleship.
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Ajax Osiris
Minmatar
Knights of Chaos
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:16:00 -
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depends on the pilot. this is a amazing setup and one of the best but a mega with tech 2 and a cap injector or 2 would still out damage it. to beat this setup u need to be able to deal the damage and kill them before they cap u. raven's mega's temp's i have all seen them do it. hoon'a'phoon can do it really easily 2 as it can out run the drones. just have to mix it up.
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Corwain
Gallente
Infinite Innovations
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:23:00 -
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Use a MWDing Nossing curse outside his nos range (22km) with a faction scram (comes standard on most Curse setups) to keep him in place. His drones won't catch you and if something goes wrong just MWD and warp. Having missle boats lend you DPS helps too but T2 drones should kill him if you can keep him from killing them.
Domi-cap=wreck
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Evil Sulu
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:47:00 -
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lol @ omgdomisareunbeatable!!!11one1 crowd.
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Sir Bart
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:50:00 -
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I think AC tempest can beat it.
Guns shoot even without cap. cap injector 800 + 2 lar's can keep lar's running with cap at zero (so the nos don't give him any cap).
Fight ends when the domi runs out of cap boosters (which happens before tempest since it needs to heal more damage and it's nos are trying to suck blood from a stone).
-Bart
(also my nano dommi beats them pretty easy)
I can beat a bad dommi pilot in my blasterthron but if the has a really good setup, he'll tank long enough for me to run outta boost.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Worms Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.08 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Bart
I think AC tempest can beat it.
Guns shoot even without cap. cap injector 800 + 2 lar's can keep lar's running with cap at zero (so the nos don't give him any cap).
Fight ends when the domi runs out of cap boosters (which happens before tempest since it needs to heal more damage and it's nos are trying to suck blood from a stone).
-Bart
(also my nano dommi beats them pretty easy)
I can beat a bad dommi pilot in my blasterthron but if the has a really good setup, he'll tank long enough for me to run outta boost.
was about to say projectiles would be a good counter as you can NOS those down.
wonder about an Arty Rokh or AC Rokh with a purely passive tank(i know the rokh has a hybrid range bonus) with high shield comp skills(ie 5) you probally could load up a good passive. main problem would be fitting the high passive and the scrams/web.
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Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.12.08 16:31:00 -
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In my experience there is no substitute for good old fasioned firepower.
I've melted a few NOSdomi's in my day using an injected Geddon.
Given the choice though, I reckon a Typhoon should easily be able to beat a NOSDomi. 4 425's, 4 Cruise Launchers and 5 Heavys, put your heavies on his and watch them die real fast and laugh as you apply 8 highslots worth of explosive damage.
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gu o
Amarr
DarkStar 1
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Posted - 2006.12.08 17:34:00 -
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I think a full out dps domi would be able to take out a nos domi.
Highslots-6 large blasters (whatever you can fit you are limited on pg)
Midslots-MWD/AB (up to you and your PG), xl shield booster, 1 Invulerability field T2, warp disruptor, injector.
Lowslots-4nano fibers, 2 damage mods T2 are best bet...wow brain died I cannot remember the name of thoes deals...
This thing is quick, like realy fast for a bs. It has not alot of tank, but decent damage. with Tech 2 heavies and lvl 4-5 gal bs it will do alot of damage and if you do loose lock once your drones keep on plugin away. well thats my best guess for killin one...
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Maxine Blade
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Posted - 2006.12.12 06:26:00 -
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A Smartbomb enabled BS works. I beat a Domi with 2 Heavy NOS, 2 Medium NOS, and whatever it had left with my Raven.
Raven was configured with 1 Large Smart Bomb, 1 Heavy NOS and the rest were Torps.
I had 5 Vespa EC-600 ECM Drones. They were able to Jam the Domi enough to take away the NOS. Smartbomb destroyed his drones. Once the Drones were gone, I pounded it down hard.
The ECM-600s were very helpful. Between the 5 of them I had the Domi jammed for about 1 minute in a 5 minute fight.
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Jin Freaks
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Posted - 2006.12.12 07:31:00 -
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Don't think that running away from the Dommi will help u. Ever heard of sentries >< ?They will probably even hit you harder then the ogres. Okay the Dommi won't be able to nos but that's nothing that a cap inject won't cure
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Aversin
Gallente
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
Forces of Freedom
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Posted - 2006.12.12 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Shigsy
1 on 1, you don't.
autopest with cap injector, works like a charm (t2 guns/ammo work very well:)
Originally by: Razner Cerizo
They will never quit. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.12 08:33:00 -
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i think the real question is can a nosdomi hope to survive a nosphoon?
4 heavy nos, 4 cruise or autocannons, 5 heavy drones, tank...
now to be perfectly honest I don't see how any domi can hope against a good scorp setup, unless ecm got nerfed that badly.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
Gallente
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.12.12 08:48:00 -
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The real question is what will a Domi be used for when CCP listens to the whine crowd, nerfs the ship and then a patch later nerfs the real problem (Nos) without changing the Domi back...
Stop pointing at the Dominix. That ship is near useless for anything BUT the Nos closerange setup.
Originally by: "Cy4n1d3"
You can't PVP with 4 mids.
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Mighty Baz
HUSARIA
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Posted - 2006.12.12 11:36:00 -
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There is no ship to be better than others. It depends on skills, experience and fit. However domi is one of cheapest bs solo dedicated. I can tank 3x BSes of t1 without any problems, doesnt matter what kind of...t2 heavy drons kill everything. I dont scare any dampners or ecm :))
I have no experience how is going with new one BSes.
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