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BobFromMarketing Amarr The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.08 07:37:00 - [31] Originally by: Anti Protagonist Originally by: Roxanna Kell Can i have your stuff? Anyhow bye, we need less care bears in eve. Ignorning the original poster's post.... I find it amusing that people whine about "carebears" so much and say that "we need less" or they all need to go.... I'm very currious on where you think you're going to be buying your ships, ammo, t2 equipment, etc, etc from.... From the people making it of course. You dont have to be a carebear to be industrially specced. I make stuff all day long.
spiderbaby Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.08 07:41:00 - [32] THe OP is right, there's too few high quality agents and those that there are are clustered into too small a region. The problem has been greatly exacerbated with the recent changes that have made low-sec unappealing to many. As long as there are high-quality level 4 agents people WILL use them. If they continue to exist in only a few systems and if low-sec continues to carry risks that greatly outweigh the rewards then the current situation will also persist - and the current situation is (pay attention now CCP) NOT FUN. And when people aren't having fun why should they continue to pay money for this game? Oh and to the OP, don't worry about the retards like roxanna, these slope-heads infest every thread on these forums. They never have anything useful, interesting or constructive to add to any post and simply aren't worth replying to.
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.12.08 07:58:00 - [33] CCP make exploration accessible to encourage players to go find hidden stuff ( alternative to mission running) and add more variance and reusability to cosmos agents. As far as plexes 20 systems and 1 deadspace tha had been farmed 2 days work for 0 reward just suxor in its current implementation in the original outline and suggestion for kali it was suggested 10 per system at any one time obviously this hasnt happened for whatever lame reason ( rushed programming and a lack of variance once again by the content team nthing new there) even if 90% are junk please make a 20x (tiems) increase in the amount of hidden plexes or that whole skill tree will be ignored. These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views This is a disclaimer
Greenwing	Posted - 2006.12.08 09:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Rasta Loot This is getting worst day after day. I would like to know what is the idea on CCP of having the agents in Motsu two jumpos away from Aramachi and send most of the time people from the two places make missions in Saila or go threw it when they see the result of that day after day. Well, if they make the right fixes next week (see patch-notes) the low-sec mission runners will return to low-sec which will temporarily solve the problem. Still it won't be enough for the next few months because Eve is growing and so the queues will be bigger. Easiest solution would be to introduce some more high-q agents and don't have the agents in motsu hand out missions in Saila (Aramachi has only 1 exit so they have to go to Saila)
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.12.08 09:57:00 - [35] with the new found co operatin between calderi and amarr perhaps some of the calderi agents could be invited to setup shop in the amarr border regions. These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views This is a disclaimer
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2006.12.08 18:02:00 - [36] Originally by: BobFromMarketing Originally by: Anti Protagonist Originally by: Roxanna Kell Can i have your stuff? Anyhow bye, we need less care bears in eve. Ignorning the original poster's post.... I find it amusing that people whine about "carebears" so much and say that "we need less" or they all need to go.... I'm very currious on where you think you're going to be buying your ships, ammo, t2 equipment, etc, etc from.... don't care. didn't ask. From the people making it of course. You dont have to be a carebear to be industrially specced. I make stuff all day long. ARENA
Magnus Card Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.08 18:17:00 - [37] Originally by: dantes inferno Quote: Originally by: dantes inferno -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- industrialists are ok industrial alts are ok mission runners are ok -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yet that is the common use definition of a carebear, as defined by far majority of use here. now read down and that will be the defintion of the majority of the people posting here. and they are the people i dance for joy every time one quits. Selective quoting is a sign of despiration and no good counter argument. Careful what you wish for. If you get to many 'carebears' quitting, your precious Eve will go away with them. Just remember 1 thing, CCP doesn't see a Carebear, they see a $$$$ machine. They won't be giving up that cash just to please self righteous PVPers. <---- mods please fix the pic
Jap Bookmarker Minmatar The Wanderers	Posted - 2006.12.08 18:22:00 - [38] Rox, you should simply stfu mate, you contribute nothing to this thread and just make a fool of yourself. On topic, one must have the opportunity to chose how to earn his isk, be it mining, missions or industry. If the servers can't handle the load in mission systems, it's the whole 'single shard' concept of CCP going through the window. Aramachi has been awfull for monthes. In fact, EVE has ben awfull for monthes. It's not only missions that are borked, every single fight I've been in with more than 20 people has been laggy and over 50 it isn't just playable. We were promised hardware, code optimisations, database cleansing (WTZ), we got them all... and everything has failed. Miserably. How many people suggested to cut on the number of NPCs in missions? Why do we have spawns of 10 BS 30 cruisers and 30 frigs when only some of them are needed, provided they get decent weapons and skills? I bet in Aramachi at peak times there's like 3.000 NPCs in space at a same time. Dunno if cutting down on those numbers but besides sharding EVE I can't see of any chance for improvement.
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.08 18:47:00 - [39] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Iam too sexy for this thread. Dont want to burst your bubble, but you're not Thought i'd add another useless post. ----------------------------------------------- Knowing all, when all is unknown.
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2006.12.08 20:32:00 - [40] Originally by: Jap Bookmarker Rox, you should simply stfu mate, you contribute nothing to this thread and just make a fool of yourself. On topic, one must have the opportunity to chose how to earn his isk, be it mining, missions or industry. If the servers can't handle the load in mission systems, it's the whole 'single shard' concept of CCP going through the window. Aramachi has been awfull for monthes. In fact, EVE has ben awfull for monthes. It's not only missions that are borked, every single fight I've been in with more than 20 people has been laggy and over 50 it isn't just playable. We were promised hardware, code optimisations, database cleansing (WTZ), we got them all... and everything has failed. Miserably. How many people suggested to cut on the number of NPCs in missions? Why do we have spawns of 10 BS 30 cruisers and 30 frigs when only some of them are needed, provided they get decent weapons and skills? I bet in Aramachi at peak times there's like 3.000 NPCs in space at a same time. Dunno if cutting down on those numbers but besides sharding EVE I can't see of any chance for improvement. Nice flame bait, too long though. hey now, make another one, Don't show anger though by saying: STFU and things like that. I ARENA

Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2006.12.08 20:33:00 - [41] Originally by: Hephaesteus Originally by: Roxanna Kell Iam too sexy for this thread. Dont want to burst your bubble, but you're not Thought i'd add another useless post. Hmmmm, , hate the game not the player. ARENA
Egil Kolsto Caldari Collwood Collective	Posted - 2006.12.08 20:37:00 - [42] The worst part about the lag....trying to time your skill swaps=P Nothing like rushing home from work, notice you have 15 minutes left before skill finish and get the "You are #47 in line" Oh well, good thing it is only a game...but still...
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.08 21:05:00 - [43] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Hephaesteus Originally by: Roxanna Kell Iam too sexy for this thread. Dont want to burst your bubble, but you're not Thought i'd add another useless post. Hmmmm, , hate the game not the player. I dont hate you Rox it's a game, c'mon give me a hug ----------------------------------------------- Knowing all, when all is unknown.
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2006.12.08 21:09:00 - [44] Originally by: Hephaesteus Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Hephaesteus Originally by: Roxanna Kell Iam too sexy for this thread. Dont want to burst your bubble, but you're not Thought i'd add another useless post. Hmmmm, , hate the game not the player. I dont hate you Rox it's a game, c'mon give me a hug lol, i know you don't hate me. /emote hugz. ARENA
Beaty Swollocks	Posted - 2006.12.08 21:34:00 - [45] Edited by: Beaty Swollocks on 08/12/2006 21:37:22 Double post
Beaty Swollocks	Posted - 2006.12.08 21:37:00 - [46] Are all of you ppl who make OP's like this profesional troll feeders , cause i swear thats all you guys invite into threads like this is stupid ignorant trolls.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.09 01:26:00 - [47] Originally by: Rasta Loot Originally by: Roxanna Kell Can i have your stuff? Anyhow bye, we need less care bears in eve. May i know who are we? We = pvpers who fail to realize who makes the ships mods and ammo they use to pvp. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Deckert Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2006.12.09 04:12:00 - [48] I could be wrong in this. But from what I have seen there are well over 50% of people in empire at any given time. So lets say of that 50% that are in empire 30% are what people call carebears. If all those "carebears quite that would be a substantial loss of money. If carebears start to quit CCP will be forced to improve upon the agent missions and empire for that matter. If CCP keeps giving into the pirates and the pvpers of eve-online. Then the carebears will quite, which means a lot of lost money that we all know CCP doesn't want lost. Now what Rasta Loot pointed out was quit accurate if you actually look at it. Most (I am not saying all)L4 agents are in close proximity to one another causing extreme amounts of lagg which we all hate. There needs to be like say 4 more L4 agents to each race. But at the same time The L4 agents need to be evenly distributed among the galaxy of eve-online. Not bottle necked into one constellation. Once again I am not saying all L4 missions are that way. Ohh if CCP reads this please delete the posts that does not have anything constructive to post. Thank you.
Sgt Blade Imperial Space Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.09 05:46:00 - [49] why dont you make it easyter for everyone else and move out?? and if you tell me one good reason why you want to stay there then i couldnt probley find out 100 more good reasons why the people who are in there.
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.09 05:49:00 - [50] go somewhewre else. *Before complaining about any ship try flying Minmatar*

lordbalan	Posted - 2007.01.06 20:05:00 - [51] I see no improvement in the game for me with regard to missions in Saila, Aramachi and Motsu. Yes I know I could move but with nearly 200K LP's I'm loathe to start again somewhere else. We were promised less lag with the removal of bm's and new hardware - no such luck. Lag today in Saila was abysmal and in the end I gave up CCP repeatedly ignores the many people who do mission running in this area - we could do with more agents more spaced out. I spose its too much to ask for a dev repsonse on this, they must realise the 'joke' that is Saila
Rehmes	Posted - 2007.01.06 20:39:00 - [52] I think its important to realize that mission runners are important to the economy. They provide a lot of the best named t1 stuff and tons of other things. CCP created a game which is open ended and people have a right to choose what way they would like to play it. In the same manner that pvpers are annoyed at the immense lag during pvp (even w only 50 people in system) the pvers are annoyed at the fact that the agents they need are too clustered to each other and thus create major lag for them. I think the OP has a reasonable reason to be annoyed, personally i wouldnt call his post a carebear post because he is not demanding changes in the game which benefit pvers while hindering pvpers. In effect what he is calling for is a better distribution which in fact is beneficial for all of us, even the pvpers going into empire to buy mods. The reason i refuse to go in to Jita is because once i go in i know i wont be exiting for another hour due to crashes/lag/queu etc. Lets not call people names for no apparent reason because it doesnt serve a purpose at all. IMO a carebear is someone asking CCP to lower (or get rid of) any risk involved in his/her activities. I think anyone playing this game wether industrialist/pvper realizes that there are inherent dangers even within empire. A pvper can (and will be) ganked at some point. An indy pilot can be suicide ganked in empire as well as podded in low sec or 0.0. Only those calling for changes to diminish or get rid of these dangers are considered a carebear in my book.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.06 20:42:00 - [53] Originally by: dantes inferno Quote: Originally by: dantes inferno -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm very currious on where you think you're going to be buying your ships, ammo, t2 equipment, etc, etc from.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- does the term industrial alt mean anythin to you? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So "carebear" alts are ok. Just not "carebear" mains. Got it... nope. industrialists are ok industrial alts are ok mission runners are ok people who refuse to accept the risk inherent in eve and want the game changed to remove the responsiblility of their own saftey and gimp game play for other in the process are not. And were the OP was requesting that? His request is exactly on par with the PvP people asking to devote more resorces at the systems where big battles are active or to resolve the POS lag. He is asking to resolve a cause of lag spreading the resources causing the lag (moving the agents) or giving more resources at the system with problems (like it is done for Jita). Some of the Alliance have stopped using Jita as an hub to reduce burdent to the system? Maybe 1 in 100, the others have clamored for more resurces, and Jita has his dedicate cluster (and still problems). The point is that CCP for his reasons think that agents hubs are a good thing, and place 3-4 high level agents in the same station, leaving most of the other stations of the same corporation in every region with only low level or crappy ones. So we have trade hubs and mission running hubs. Only CCP know why this decision, and only CCP can modify the situation.
Ky Vatta Caldari Empire Mining and Industrial Taskforce	Posted - 2007.01.06 20:48:00 - [54] I though at one time CCP moved a lot of agents into other systems, to prevent the lag issue (then put them back 1 patch later, which I thought was not well thought out at all)
Petrothian Tong	Posted - 2007.01.06 20:52:00 - [55] you know, there are other places with agents too, low sec, (well not doing that anymore..) but still, there sooooooo many npc corps and sooooo many agents out there.... just cause everybody and their mother, their dog is doing it someplace doesnt mean you should go too... there are other npc corps.... trust me... take a loook, grind those standings up! lol
Skraeling Shortbus Caldari Gallente Federal Bank Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.06 21:37:00 - [56] Someone missed the point entirely when you crawled inside his rectum calling him a carebear. He's complaining about lag from agents being to close together. Since when is lag a carebear only problem?
Lunarmist	Posted - 2007.01.06 21:41:00 - [57] It is not easy to switch agent from different corp. One is LP that cannot be transfered, another is the agent standing is fixed in place. I'm not sure what is so hard to move agents at least 10 jumps apart though. Maybe by moving agents, they also have to generate more code for the new agent systems. Anyway, I think CCP should start to consider move those agents far apart. As for going to low sec for missions, that is not a smart move right now. I got probed out 4 times within 3 hours on Friday night. Luckily I was in zealot and could get away. It is simply not worth the risk. As for exploration, it is nice and all but most of them are mining sits, and I don't mine at all. So it is pointless for me. Another thing, since when talking about lag is carebear? The OP just want some quality gaming experiencing while playing. It is clear that by placing so many agents within 3 jump from each other is not the best choice. So, people are just asking ccp to move the agents further apart. By asking thing, they are carebears?! My god, you guys are so jaded!
Petrothian Tong	Posted - 2007.01.06 21:46:00 - [58] Originally by: Lunarmist It is not easy to switch agent from different corp. One is LP that cannot be transfered, another is the agent standing is fixed in place. I'm not sure what is so hard to move agents at least 10 jumps apart though. Maybe by moving agents, they also have to generate more code for the new agent systems. Anyway, I think CCP should start to consider move those agents far apart. As for going to low sec for missions, that is not a smart move right now. I got probed out 4 times within 3 hours on Friday night. Luckily I was in zealot and could get away. It is simply not worth the risk. As for exploration, it is nice and all but most of them are mining sits, and I don't mine at all. So it is pointless for me. Another thing, since when talking about lag is carebear? The OP just want some quality gaming experiencing while playing. It is clear that by placing so many agents within 3 jump from each other is not the best choice. So, people are just asking ccp to move the agents further apart. By asking thing, they are carebears?! My god, you guys are so jaded! yeah.... you should start working amarr =P ... Caldari space is packed lol....you should be able to do amarr too..since Amarr standings are linked to Cal... as for lps...just have to grin and bear it... have to leave it behind or grab something less shiny with it.


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