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DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
495
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Posted - 2011.12.08 23:09:00 -
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Anyone fitting a Minmatar ship will know how damn easy it is. Slap on the largest guns, oversize tank, T2 tackle and equal-sized neuts if applicable. Too easy. With any other race you need to drop the guns down a size, leave a high slot empty, fit an undersized tank, fit meta tackle and DCU, fool about with adaptive nano plating, etc.
Minmatar ships end up being just plain better because of it.
I got thinking on how this problem could be solved. I thought to myself 'What would CCP do to balance a Minmatar ship?' and 'How can Minmatar ships be harder to fit?'
Well, the solution quickly became apparent to me. Add more slots to all of the Minmatar ships! It's perfect!
The Hurricane can have an 8,8,8 slot layout! Can you imagine how hard it will be to fit it? Filling all those slots will quickly exhaust all of the CPU.
Will there be balance issues? No, actually! Most of us know that by flying Minmatar you automatically win at PVP. However, some people don't believe this (and so are promptly blown up my Minmatar ships and so whine on the forums about it). By nerfing all of the Minmatar ships by giving them 2, 3 or 4 extra slots, everyone will fly Minmatar, and since everyone will always win, everything will be balanced!
[Hurricane, 24 slots]
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Disruptor I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Optical Tracking Computer I Optical Tracking Computer I Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200
Alpha Reactor Control: Reaction Control 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Warrior II x5
Can you just see all the sacrifice in that fit? It was pain to manage the CPU and powergrid! NERF MINMATAR! GIVE THEM MORE SLOTS! |
Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2011.12.08 23:22:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Anyone fitting a Minmatar ship will know how damn easy it is. Slap on the largest guns, oversize tank, T2 tackle and equal-sized neuts if applicable. Too easy. With any other race you need to drop the guns down a size, leave a high slot empty, fit an undersized tank, fit meta tackle and DCU, fool about with adaptive nano plating, etc.
Minmatar ships end up being just plain better because of it.
I got thinking on how this problem could be solved. I thought to myself 'What would CCP do to balance a Minmatar ship?' and 'How can Minmatar ships be harder to fit?'
Well, the solution quickly became apparent to me. Add more slots to all of the Minmatar ships! It's perfect!
The Hurricane can have an 8,8,8 slot layout! Can you imagine how hard it will be to fit it? Filling all those slots will quickly exhaust all of the CPU.
Will there be balance issues? No, actually! Most of us know that by flying Minmatar you automatically win at PVP. However, some people don't believe this (and so are promptly blown up my Minmatar ships and so whine on the forums about it). By nerfing all of the Minmatar ships by giving them 2, 3 or 4 extra slots, everyone will fly Minmatar, and since everyone will always win, everything will be balanced!
[Hurricane, 24 slots]
I'll agree to and even +1 this on two conditions;
Condition the first: myrmidons finally get their missing slot (preferably medium but i'm begging so...).
Condition the second: myrmidons get 5 more mbs bandwidth and 10 more m^3 drone bay.
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Disruptor I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Optical Tracking Computer I Optical Tracking Computer I Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200
Alpha Reactor Control: Reaction Control 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Warrior II x5
Can you just see all the sacrifice in that fit? It was pain to manage the CPU and powergrid! NERF MINMATAR! GIVE THEM MORE SLOTS!
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Pika Pedel
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.08 23:27:00 -
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Supported. |
kdog666
Blackwater Unlimited
0
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Posted - 2011.12.08 23:35:00 -
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I fly minmatarr, but I have to say... I agree +1 |
ElCholo
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
18
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Posted - 2011.12.09 00:57:00 -
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QQ + Troll = Fail
:D |
King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
55
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Posted - 2011.12.09 01:48:00 -
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2/10 |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
444
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Posted - 2011.12.09 01:51:00 -
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kdog666 wrote:I fly minmatarr, but I have to say... I agree +1
Me too |
Aamrr
HnL Enterprise
175
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Posted - 2011.12.09 01:54:00 -
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I lol'd. |
Berendas
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
29
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Posted - 2011.12.09 01:57:00 -
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I had a laugh |
Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2011.12.09 09:01:00 -
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reading the topic, i thought, wtf not another one. instead i had a good laugh. thx. |
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
218
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Posted - 2011.12.09 09:51:00 -
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I'll admit... I giggled.
edit: Best part IMO
Quote:By nerfing all of the Minmatar ships by giving them 2, 3 or 4 extra slots, everyone will fly Minmatar, and since everyone will always win, everything will be balanced!
Holy crap... the logic in that is actually sound!! "Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
Antal Marius
Black Aces Mining Div AAA Citizens
7
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Posted - 2011.12.09 10:26:00 -
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Is it bad that it makes a whole lotta sense? Even though everyone and their mother would start to fly minmatar. We could just have that slot layout for every ship though. |
Arrigo Glokta
2
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Posted - 2011.12.09 11:25:00 -
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Yeah - I agree that Minmatar need to be pegged back a touch - but I am totally sick of seeing the NERF WINMITAR threads!
However, I had a good old chcukle at this one. Well done sir.
+1 |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:44:00 -
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Once you go black you never go back. |
zatazon
Z's Corp
4
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Posted - 2011.12.09 16:35:00 -
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Out of boredom I opened this post expecting to see tears or something along those lines, instead I find perfectly sound logic and get a laugh.
Great post +1 |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
272
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Posted - 2011.12.09 17:36:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Anyone fitting a Minmatar ship will know how damn easy it is. Slap on the largest guns, oversize tank, T2 tackle and equal-sized neuts if applicable. Too easy. With any other race you need to drop the guns down a size, leave a high slot empty, fit an undersized tank, fit meta tackle and DCU, fool about with adaptive nano plating, etc.
Minmatar ships end up being just plain better because of it.
I got thinking on how this problem could be solved. I thought to myself 'What would CCP do to balance a Minmatar ship?' and 'How can Minmatar ships be harder to fit?'
Well, the solution quickly became apparent to me. Add more slots to all of the Minmatar ships! It's perfect!
The Hurricane can have an 8,8,8 slot layout! Can you imagine how hard it will be to fit it? Filling all those slots will quickly exhaust all of the CPU.
Will there be balance issues? No, actually! Most of us know that by flying Minmatar you automatically win at PVP. However, some people don't believe this (and so are promptly blown up by Minmatar ships and so whine on the forums about it). By nerfing all of the Minmatar ships by giving them 2, 3 or 4 extra slots, everyone will fly Minmatar, and since everyone will always win, everything will be balanced!
[Hurricane, 24 slots]
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Disruptor I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Optical Tracking Computer I Optical Tracking Computer I Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200
Alpha Reactor Control: Reaction Control 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Warrior II x5
Can you just see all the sacrifice in that fit? It was pain to manage the CPU and powergrid! NERF MINMATAR! GIVE THEM MORE SLOTS!
You didn't even dual tank it you moron.
Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Flatline.
9
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Posted - 2011.12.09 23:24:00 -
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Made me laugh, which is enough for a +1 in my book. |
Anny Jackson
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2011.12.10 11:37:00 -
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Hmm, and what will your suggestion be about Drake? I guess 8/8/8 Drake would be too little pain for its pilots. I think 10/10/10 will be a perfect Drake. |
Yith Za'bolazhi
Digital Frontiers
0
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Posted - 2011.12.12 11:45:00 -
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Back in the day every one piloted amarr 7 to 8 years ago, i think that was geddons !
For years on end people piloted missile boats, as missiles didn't suffer with a tracking penilitie intill the skills came for em !
Even gallent where popular due to mass volume of drones they could have on the field... intill the nerf bat swung !
Give us mimmies some love... we still use projectiles |
DaRiKavus
Expendable Asset's
1
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Posted - 2011.12.12 16:53:00 -
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I was with you all the way until you forgot to mention that an extra rig slot would help nerf Minmatar also.
+1
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shal ri
Zanzibar Land
2
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Posted - 2011.12.12 16:58:00 -
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wat a great laugh dude really well done.
just so u know matar ships are not OP. they are easy as **** to kill. i dont know y ppl say they are auto win when all the have is falloff and speed. has any1 bothered to take a look at the tank on them at all. its almost non-existant. matar have 2 resist holes. kin and expl, pick 1. dead matar ship. job done. gallante caldri ftw mother *******. |
Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2011.12.12 19:17:00 -
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shal ri wrote:wat a great laugh dude really well done.
just so u know matar ships are not OP. they are easy as **** to kill. i dont know y ppl say they are auto win when all the have is falloff and speed. has any1 bothered to take a look at the tank on them at all. its almost non-existant. matar have 2 resist holes. kin and expl, pick 1. dead matar ship. job done. gallante caldri ftw mother *******. dumby learn to write |
Khrage
3
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Posted - 2011.12.12 23:03:00 -
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BS! NO WAY SHOULD THEY GET MORE SLOTS! THAT MAKES NO SENSE! RAGE RAGE RAGE QQ QQ QQ! NERF WINMATAR!
:P |
Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
387
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Posted - 2011.12.12 23:40:00 -
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Why stop there? I am sure it could use the extra PG and cpu hey?
[Hurricane, The Perfect Storm] Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Core X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive True Sansha Stasis Webifier Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Khrage
3
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:30:00 -
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Headerman wrote:Why stop there? I am sure it could use the extra PG and cpu hey?
[Hurricane, The Perfect Storm] Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Core X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive True Sansha Stasis Webifier Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I, Arch Angel EMP XL
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
i might have pissed myself a little when i saw this... |
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