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Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:09:00 - [1] Who came in second place? Given that the match is tommorow, Morsus Mihi and Nebula Rasa would be greatly helped if they were not kept in suspense too long. Figured it would help so both sides had an official place to look in case of poor communication. Thank you. The Enemy's Gate is Down
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:17:00 - [2] Can't rly be that hard to count? Going by Smagd's commentary: MM vs fimbul: 28-15 MM vs SE: 0-28 Nebula vs SE: 1-28 Nebula vs LV: 28-3 (nebula didn't lose any ship but fielded uncomplete setup) How did the other matches go? Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:23:00 - [3] As much as keeping you in suspense amuses me here goes; 2006.12.09 22:07 I'm afraid MM beat you by 7 points. -------------------- 2006.12.09 22:06 I did not watch the end of the broadcast today and only have hearsay and the official standings to go by. Are we through or are we out on points? That's a letter from a dev and me posting it, do I get a diploma and immunity? Ourselves Alone
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:29:00 - [4] Originally by: dalman Can't rly be that hard to count? The issue is that both sides thought they counted right and that MM had lost, but the devs stated otherwise. Was just trying to get an official response so the advancing team could go buy things in prep while we argue about it. Anyway, other matches for MM were: MMvNR 28-0 MMvLV 7-28 The Enemy's Gate is Down
spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:34:00 - [5] i officially say that the roleplayers won _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:37:00 - [6] Originally by: spiralJunkie i officially say that the roleplayers won I understand that this is kind of a recurring inside joke, but I take it this time you guys actually know something about the history of most of the corps in MM? (hint; its abundantly obvious). The Enemy's Gate is Down
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:38:00 - [7] Originally by: spiralJunkie i officially say that the roleplayers won I resent that remark, Morsus Mihi can't quote Shakespeare to get themselves out of the proverbial wet paperbag. Ourselves Alone
jamesw Omniscient Order The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: spiralJunkie i officially say that the roleplayers won I resent that remark, Morsus Mihi can't quote Shakespeare to get themselves out of the proverbial wet paperbag. Get thee to a nunnery! -- Latest Vid: Domination!
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:44:00 - [9] Originally by: jamesw Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: spiralJunkie i officially say that the roleplayers won I resent that remark, Morsus Mihi can't quote Shakespeare to get themselves out of the proverbial wet paperbag. Get thee to a nunnery! Out damn spot? The Enemy's Gate is Down
spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:46:00 - [10] ok, fair enough, enough roleplay jokes the best team won _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm

Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:48:00 - [11] Wait a minute, seeing how they won just barely against Fimbulwinter I'd like to know exactly what the count was. We have 28+28+1 for a total of 57 points with 28+28+3 against bringing us to a negative 2 Whereas Morsus Mihi got 28+28 for a total of 56 points with 28+28+15 against, might have a redeeming ship saved to add to that but that not taken into account the Fimbulwinter saves would bring them to a negative 15, 13 points below us. Who did the count here and what am I missing? Ourselves Alone
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:50:00 - [12] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Wait a minute, seeing how they won just barely against Fimbulwinter I'd like to know exactly what the count was. We have 28+28+1 for a total of 57 points with 28+28+3 against bringing us to a negative 2 Whereas Morsus Mihi got 28+28 for a total of 56 points with 28+28+15 against, might have a redeeming ship saved to add to that but that not taken into account the Fimbulwinter saves would bring them to a negative 15, 13 points below us. Who did the count here and what am I missing? We also killed a curse againt LV for however many points that is worth. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:53:00 - [13] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 09/12/2006 22:55:24 Add 7 and you still land 6 points short, where are these 13 points coming from which sits in your favor? Ourselves Alone
spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:54:00 - [14] plus the 17 points from earlier. unfortunately, MM rolled a natural 20, which means they save, and take no damage. MM WIN! _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:55:00 - [15] Originally by: spiralJunkie plus the 17 points from earlier. unfortunately, MM rolled a natural 20, which means they save, and take no damage. MM WIN! Which 17 are those, what did I miss? Ourselves Alone
spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:57:00 - [16] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: spiralJunkie plus the 17 points from earlier. unfortunately, MM rolled a natural 20, which means they save, and take no damage. MM WIN! Which 17 are those, what did I miss? from that fight! where the 'pew pew' happened. omg, were younot watching? _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:58:00 - [17] c'mon now, I have an obligation to my pilots to persue this. Can we get the scores from all the matches posted? Ourselves Alone
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.12.09 22:59:00 - [18] MM vs fimbul: 28-15 MM vs SE: 0-28 MM vs NR: 28-0 MM vs LV: 7-28 63-71 = -8 Nebula vs SE: 1-28 Nebula vs LV: 28-3 (nebula didn't lose any ship but fielded uncomplete setup) Nebula vs MM: 0-28 Nevula vs fimbul: 28-0? 57-59 = -2 Should be nebula going through if those match reports are correct :s Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Juwi Kotch Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:00:00 - [19] Would it be to difficult to just write down the exact calculation leading to this result? Not everybody could watch the fights, the stream was just not that stable, you know... Juwi Kotch
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:00:00 - [20] Those looks to be correct yes. Ourselves Alone

Cividari Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:02:00 - [21] Originally by: dalman MM vs fimbul: 28-15 MM vs SE: 0-28 MM vs NR: 28-0 MM vs LV: 7-28 63-71 = -8 Nebula vs SE: 1-28 Nebula vs LV: 28-3 (nebula didn't lose any ship but fielded uncomplete setup) Nebula vs MM: 0-28 Nevula vs fimbul: 28-0? 57-59 = -2 Should be nebula going through if those match reports are correct :s MM managed to save their two vigils in the LV match. Think the other MM matches are correct. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:05:00 - [22] So negative 6 for you and negative 2 for us, it still gives us the win by 4 points. Ourselves Alone
Cividari Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:08:00 - [23] Originally by: Danton Marcellus So negative 6 for you and negative 2 for us, it still gives us the win by 4 points. Yeah... would be nice if someone could summon LeMonde so he could show us his mats leading to MM winning by 7 points. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:12:00 - [24] Originally by: Cividari Originally by: Danton Marcellus So negative 6 for you and negative 2 for us, it still gives us the win by 4 points. Yeah... would be nice if someone could summon LeMonde so he could show us his mats leading to MM winning by 7 points. He's reviewing the scores now. Ourselves Alone

LeMonde	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:14:00 - [25] Xod may have made a small mistake in the calculations. We're re-reviewing them now and will give an official reply in a few moments.


LeMonde	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:22:00 - [26] We've corrected it and Nebula Rasa did actually come out on top by four points. We're double checking other results to make sure they are correct aswell.

Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:24:00 - [27] Originally by: LeMonde We've corrected it and Nebula Rasa did actually come out on top by four points. We're double checking other results to make sure they are correct aswell. Looks like the right result, but damn you for getting my hopes up! :< Anyhow, if it checks out good luck to them. The Enemy's Gate is Down
QwaarJet Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:28:00 - [28] Nice job guys, now we're even more crushed than we were before. Do you have any idea what this day has been like? Your not through! Your Through! Your not through! I would call it a joke, but it's simply not funny. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimeter Of Wisdom.Run!"
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:45:00 - [29] Originally by: QwaarJet I would call it a joke, but it's simply not funny. No, its not. LeMonde offered an equitable solution to the TRS lag problem. Perhaps he might do the same thing here. No issue with NR here, just kind of frustrating that there is so much back and forth when we could have been done with this 6 hours ago. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Derkan Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:49:00 - [30] someone explain these confusing rule to me. HOW does a team get 28 points when it doesnt field 28 points worth of ships? see how abused that system can be? or is my calculation wrong?

xthril	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:56:00 - [31] Originally by: Derkan someone explain these confusing rule to me. HOW does a team get 28 points when it doesnt field 28 points worth of ships? see how abused that system can be? or is my calculation wrong? if you field less than 28 points the enemy automaticly get the missing points as killpoints. Else we (morsus mihi) could have advanced to next round by only fielding 24 points in our latest match. That would not have been fair to the Nebula Rasa. I just put up a token bounty on lemonde for making this evening a pain Good luck to Nebula Rasa , prove that we lost the spot to a good team.
Xthril Ranger hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:57:00 - [32] Edited by: Xthril Ranger on 09/12/2006 23:58:41 above is me edit: forgot to add: "live long and prosper" you'll never jump alone
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 23:58:00 - [33] Originally by: xthril Originally by: Derkan someone explain these confusing rule to me. HOW does a team get 28 points when it doesnt field 28 points worth of ships? see how abused that system can be? or is my calculation wrong? if you field less than 28 points the enemy automaticly get the missing points as killpoints. Else we (morsus mihi) could have advanced to next round by only fielding 24 points in our latest match. That would not have been fair to the Nebula Rasa. I just put up a token bounty on lemonde for making this evening a pain Good luck to Nebula Rasa , prove that we lost the spot to a good team. In the end it means that the LV diving in the last match (and not even bringing 28 points) is the decisive factor. Of course, we should have blown up enough points for it not to matter. The Enemy's Gate is Down
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.12.10 00:04:00 - [34] Originally by: Baun No, its not. LeMonde offered an equitable solution to the TRS lag problem. Perhaps he might do the same thing here. Well, our (TRS) match vs MC was completely lagged out - we would have won otherwise, see this thread. LeMonde offered us a re-match if MC would agree on that. They did not, for RL reasons - their members simply weren't available (already behind schedule). I don't blame them. At all. The re-match would also have been with no ships replaced. Parts of our team can't undock with the sec-hits taken in the tourney. It was pretty much impossible for us to sort new ships and mods in time. Also, I expected Burn Eden to wipe Xelas 28-0. And then it didn't matter. The Burn Eden guys smack alot - but they're not stupid. I'm sure they would have realized that Shin Ra's figures from yesterday were wrong. In our match against them we fielded a standard raven, not faction, and hence only 27 points. So our match was "only" a 28-1, not 28-0, win against them by the stated rules. Which means the actual situation was such that we had to beat MC with 2 points more than Burn Eden would beat Xelas. Burn Eden winning 28-0 means we were out already, re-match or not. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.10 00:09:00 - [35] Originally by: dalman Your situation and ours are not the same obviously. I just meant that maybe LeMonde could do something for stringing the whole alliance along for 7 hours going back and forth and back and forth. The fact that he offered a rematch to you was just an indication that he was thinking about fairness overall, not that he would offer the same thing. Anyway leaves a frustrated feeling, must be worse for the people on the teams who were waiting the whole time only to get a decision then for it to change. The Enemy's Gate is Down
The Armin Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.10 00:35:00 - [36] GG to NR and congratulations on qualifying for the latter stages. I wish y'all good luck :o) But must admit, this point thingie is kinda odd.
Trey Pator	Posted - 2006.12.10 00:51:00 - [37] Im glad too see you can add. Thanks for the added suspense and drama, I feel like we have a sideshow going on. Bring your Impoc against us GH it will be barbecued.
Ranger 1 Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.10 01:00:00 - [38] Edited by: Ranger 1 on 10/12/2006 01:00:21 Congratulations NR. We may have rolled a natural 20, but then we blew our save. I hate it when the dice fall on the floor and nobody but the DM see's the result. People may be a bit disheartened on the MM side of things right now, but I know the mistake in calculation and following announcement was not intentional. I do feel that to avoid these problems in the future that I should be flown to Iceland for the next tournament to oversee these things.
spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.10 02:04:00 - [39] for what it's worth, now i've sobered up, props to MM. You've been my favourite team for two tournaments now, i hope next time you can be here again _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm
Valrandir Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.10 04:52:00 - [40] Have fun all pilots and see you in the next tournament. -------------------------------- This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware.

NereSky Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.10 09:08:00 - [41] Edited by: NereSky on 10/12/2006 09:09:00 Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam
RealJames 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.10 13:40:00 - [42] Originally by: Danton Marcellus I resent that remark, Morsus Mihi can't quote Shakespeare to get themselves out of the proverbial wet paperbag. I must confess I did laugh at that one.


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