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Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2011.12.09 09:16:00 -
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Looks like "Crucible" has been a very successful expansion and re-heated the interest of many former EVE players.
This conclusion comes out of some numbers I'm seing regarding EVEMon.
Since we released EVEMon 1.5.3 on 7th December 2011 (EVEMon update for Crucible), we had close to 50000 downloads in 1 day, when we normally reach that number in a 10-15 days period.
I'm sure that Mr. Hilmar (CCP CEO) has already noticed that by the spike on reactivated subscriptions and PCU.
In conclusion, the "lesson was learned" (I'm sure Mr Hilmar and Mr Arnar know what I'm talking about), so all CCP staff deserves a "Well done, guys" from all us members of the EVE community.
On behalf of
The EVEMon Dev Team |
Zevina
Atomic Core Industries and Science
8
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Posted - 2011.12.09 09:28:00 -
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And thanks to the EveMon team for such a smooth update (was among the 50000).
I can only hope that CCP learned a long term lesson from that and continues developing expansions closer to the heart of Eves playerbase. And I hope they will monitor the forums more closely so they can profit from the playerknowledge of what might or might not work for Eve in the way it is planned. |
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.09 09:51:00 -
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Posting in a thread about software that works, and that I use, like, trust and recommend wholeheartedly for a change.
Oh wait, this is just authored by an EVEMon guy, it's not an EVEMon thread. NVM then.
If you think CCP has learned their lesson, you don't understand human nature and you haven't really been paying attention.
You'll know CCP has learned their lesson when:
The overview works every time. Fundamental game mechanics (like warping) work every time.
Aurum is gone.
Fearless is a newsletter that CCP would be happy to let its customers read. (In fact, there should be no internal correspondence that would outrage the playerbase. If you're doing something that you know would **** us off if we found out, stop doing it!)
CCP stops meddling in the in-game economy (particularly the PLEX market) and fully discloses any 'exceptions' to that policy.
The QEN returns with all the old information and more.
ISK faucets roughly match up with ISK sinks.
CCP stops using anonymous 'white knight' alts on forums.
CCP stops taking assclown CSM members seriously, even if they're in the same alliance as the lead CCP developer.
CCP makes reasonably informative disclosures about what steps they've taken to combat bots and botting. ('Trust me, it's complicated, just press that placebo button.' doesn't count.)
Like I said, a long way from learning their lesson. But realistically, do you expected fully formed adults to change? To develop integrity, pride in the product they sell, a commitment to the virtual world (sandbox) of New Eden? Good luck with that. |
Riley Moore
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.09 09:52:00 -
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More like a medium patch, but alright ;)
Need Researched BPO's? Be it drones, ammo, charges, you name it, visit my forum store now!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |
Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2011.12.09 09:57:00 -
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Traffic in the forums is generally up too, with a fair amount of rather newbie threads in some sections.
Not quite up to the level back in the heydays, but at least it isn't slipping.
Now, if only the market would wake up from its sluggish slumber ... ... |
bilingi
Ghosts of the Storm
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Posted - 2011.12.09 09:58:00 -
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Funny the bleeding has stopped until the new MMOS start this month so its a success?  |
Nullity
The Immaculate Church of Cuppishism
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Posted - 2011.12.09 10:05:00 -
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bilingi wrote:Funny the bleeding has stopped until the new MMOS start this month so its a success?
No MMOs, except perhaps the perpetual underdog Perpetuum, and the forever in development Infinity (I see what I did there) are competition for EVE, as those are the only other two sandbox MMOs that I know of. As you're undoubtedly referring to The Old Republic in regard to new MMOs this month, I think you should keep in mind that in EVE's eight years, it has faced numerous juggernaut MMOs, and none of them have affected EVE's subscription base in a noticeable way. In all likelihood, the only thing that will ever kill EVE is CCP (as they almost did this past Summer). No other MMORPG developers are putting out products that are in anyway near the quality, potential, or substance of EVE. Their products are barely in the same genre or class as EVE (which made it all the more frustrating to see CCP stoop to their level in the past year).
As for Crucible being successful, it does appear so. I can only hope that CCP remembers any lessons it learned from its misadventures in neglecting EVE in the pursuit of space Barbies and MTs, and never repeats those mistakes. |
Zevina
Atomic Core Industries and Science
8
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Posted - 2011.12.09 10:10:00 -
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I still like space barbies. Wasnt bad they started it in the first place, lots of players anxiously awaited WiS. Problem is they released a WiS that wasnt 10% of what they promised us on on top of that they made (and still make) rediculous NeX prices.
Is still wish to dress up my avatars and show other people how cute (and filthy rich) I am. :D |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
47
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Posted - 2011.12.09 10:15:00 -
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I think the worst we would see is people here posting pics of TOR after release, but pics cant be used here so we will see lots of links to it. |
Nullity
The Immaculate Church of Cuppishism
6
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Posted - 2011.12.09 10:16:00 -
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Zevina wrote:I still like space barbies. Wasnt bad they started it in the first place, lots of players anxiously awaited WiS. Problem is they released a WiS that wasnt 10% of what they promised us on on top of that they made (and still make) rediculous NeX prices.
Is still wish to dress up my avatars and show other people how cute (and filthy rich) I am. :D
Incarna should never have been focused on the barbie doll aspect. The release that we got wasn't even "10%" of what Incarna should have been. It was a fraction of a percent. That said, I get a certain joy dressing up my space ship guy too.  |
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2011.12.09 10:16:00 -
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Zevina wrote:I still like space barbies. Wasnt bad they started it in the first place, lots of players anxiously awaited WiS. Problem is they released a WiS that wasnt 10% of what they promised us on on top of that they made (and still make) rediculous NeX prices.
Is still wish to dress up my avatars and show other people how cute (and filthy rich) I am. :D
One must adapt to Barbie's dream clothes, before one recieves Barbies dream house, or Barbie's dream hippy commune. |
bilingi
Ghosts of the Storm
10
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Posted - 2011.12.09 14:45:00 -
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if it was a success why arent the numbers up? |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled
The.Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:01:00 -
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com se com sa
Something Awful. A beacon for tearful, lonely neckbeards. |
BrundleMeth
Temporal Mechanics
5
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:15:00 -
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What's EVE Mon?
Edit: I thought I better add Just Kidding.... |
VanNostrum
Infinitum Cartel
0
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:18:00 -
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Server traffic can be seen on right hand corner of this site: www.eveonline.com
there used to be 50-60k players online.
yeah, it's a success alright |
Thomas Abernathy
Beekeepers Anonymous
15
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:21:00 -
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Desmont McCallock wrote:Looks like "Crucible" has been a very successful expansion and re-heated the interest of many former EVE players.
This conclusion comes out of some numbers I'm seing regarding EVEMon.
Since we released EVEMon 1.5.3 on 7th December 2011 (EVEMon update for Crucible), we had close to 50000 downloads in 1 day, when we normally reach that number in a 10-15 days period.
I'm sure that Mr. Hilmar (CCP CEO) has already noticed that by the spike on reactivated subscriptions and PCU.
In conclusion, the "lesson was learned" (I'm sure Mr Hilmar and Mr Arnar know what I'm talking about), so all CCP staff deserves a "Well done, guys" from all us members of the EVE community.
On behalf of
The EVEMon Dev Team
I'm not sure the clueless brown nose posts are any better thant the rage posts....
"Fighting CCD since 2139" |
Roosterton
Shattered Star Exiles
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
189
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:22:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:Look at me guys I hate this game give me attention
Do you take pleasure in finding something to ***** about at every opportunity?
I also love how pretty much half of your post is baseless :tinfoil:. |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
KUGUTSUMEN.
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:23:00 -
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It was a successful patch of fixes/balancing issues from years worth of backlogs. |
Draco Rosso
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:49:00 -
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I come back after an year of hiding. I'm still waiting for updates to FW!!! |
Goose99
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.09 16:07:00 -
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Also, it didn't fix Gallante. It didn't nerf Winmatar. Still waiting for those things to happen. |
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Swordfingers
Universal Freelance
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
15
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Posted - 2011.12.09 16:11:00 -
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bilingi wrote:Funny the bleeding has stopped until the new MMOS start this month so its a success?
No upcoming MMOs are going to threaten eve. The new X3 expansion and upcoming X : Rebirth on the other hand... |
Swordfingers
Universal Freelance
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
15
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Posted - 2011.12.09 16:13:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:Posting in a thread about software that works, and that I use, like, trust and recommend wholeheartedly for a change.
Oh wait, this is just authored by an EVEMon guy, it's not an EVEMon thread. NVM then.
If you think CCP has learned their lesson, you don't understand human nature and you haven't really been paying attention.
You'll know CCP has learned their lesson when:
The overview works every time. Fundamental game mechanics (like warping) work every time.
Aurum is gone.
Fearless is a newsletter that CCP would be happy to let its customers read. (In fact, there should be no internal correspondence that would outrage the playerbase. If you're doing something that you know would **** us off if we found out, stop doing it!)
CCP stops meddling in the in-game economy (particularly the PLEX market) and fully discloses any 'exceptions' to that policy.
The QEN returns with all the old information and more.
ISK faucets roughly match up with ISK sinks.
CCP stops using anonymous 'white knight' alts on forums.
CCP stops taking assclown CSM members seriously, even if they're in the same alliance as the lead CCP developer.
CCP makes reasonably informative disclosures about what steps they've taken to combat bots and botting. ('Trust me, it's complicated, just press that placebo button.' doesn't count.)
Like I said, a long way from learning their lesson. But realistically, do you expected fully formed adults to change? To develop integrity, pride in the product they sell, a commitment to the virtual world (sandbox) of New Eden? Good luck with that.
Could I...you know...your stuff...? |
Sieges
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.12.09 17:33:00 -
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Based on the way things have been going, I'd call Crucible - Patch of the Year!!
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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
23
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Posted - 2011.12.09 19:29:00 -
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Thomas Abernathy wrote:Desmont McCallock wrote:Looks like "Crucible" has been a very successful expansion and re-heated the interest of many former EVE players.
stuffz
On behalf of
The EVEMon Dev Team I'm not sure the clueless brown nose posts are any better thant the rage posts....
Some of those like mine, were cautionary and somewhat sardonic. I still believe CCP is still shaking, and they really need to get their act together. I believe some members of the total community, outside those that post here regularly are still undecided.
I know a lot of people that went to X named MMO's or quit altogether and just gave EVE the finger, "lot" being 6+ accounts and in a sense its a bit of a cascade effect still splashing around as people won't keep endorsing the game or painting it in nice details for new people to enjoy.
Winter is here already, and you can see the frost, on my part I'm still a bit angry but willing to give CCP another chance for the time being, because I still want to believe.
Everything team Papercuts did should have been the NORM for the past 2 years. And that's why I am a bit appalled at how CCP was behaving.
The part I dislike about all of this is seeing what the next move on their part will be. Since I can no longer trust them enough despite my best intentions in taking the game in a way that will keep it thriving.
I don't think EVE will never die, Meridian 59 is still out there, eve will always have a core cadre of players, but seeing it downgraded another notch would be a bit too much for me.
Anyway, as it is now, it's a matter of patience and seeing what their next move will be. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1991
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Posted - 2011.12.09 19:36:00 -
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bilingi wrote:if it was a success why arent the numbers up? The numbers are up.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
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Posted - 2011.12.09 19:38:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:snipp
Stop posting, please. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
504
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Posted - 2011.12.09 20:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:bilingi wrote:if it was a success why arent the numbers up? The numbers are up.
Please stop confusing people with facts. It only irritates them and doesn't change thier preconceptions. 
Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
338
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Posted - 2011.12.09 20:30:00 -
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It was a good patch, no doubt. Many needed items added. Now if only CCP had someone in charge of FW.
I'm a ******* profanity filter that can catch **** and *****, but fuckin little else. -á
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Kelsi Corynn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.09 20:56:00 -
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Crucible's definitely the best patch I've seen, but I've only been playing since just after Apocrypha released. Considering it's the one they've had the least dev time to do, that's pretty exceptional.
While I would guess their subscription numbers are up nicely, player activity still looks uncertain. Going by the second graph HERE, they've stopped the blood loss, but the patient may still be ill.
Overall, it goes to show how much value you can get out of putting some time into ideas that have been floating around for YEARS now... |
bilingi
Ghosts of the Storm
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Posted - 2011.12.10 18:13:00 -
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Sorry Tippa they are not up i at all watching the graphs.....I saw a small spike and PLAP right back down. Then again alot free to play and stwor online coming itll drop more. |
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