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Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.23 13:13:48 -
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Tabris Katz wrote:Kairelle wrote:...they've made most of the cluster agree on the premise that they're being a threat not to be taken lightly which probably isn't going to turn out good for them. I completely agree with you, the Drifters recent actions might be greatest unifying catalyst for the Cluster since the return of Sansha Kuvakei.
Well, if they're less of a unifying influence than that (which is what 'the greatest since' means), then they're not much of a unifying power at all. After all, most of us tend to ignore the Nation's incursions when they don't directly inconvenience us. |
Sinjin Mokk
Royal Khanid Colonial Exploration
562
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Posted - 2015.08.23 14:47:57 -
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Tabris Katz wrote:Kairelle wrote:...they've made most of the cluster agree on the premise that they're being a threat not to be taken lightly which probably isn't going to turn out good for them. I completely agree with you, the Drifters recent actions might be greatest unifying catalyst for the Cluster since the return of Sansha Kuvakei.
And I was there, five years ago when Kuvakei started abducting millions of people from worlds all across the cluster. As a people we cried out for help. As a people, we turned to CONCORD to band us together to face this threat to humanity and our way of life. And as a people, CONCORD sold us out for their own self-interests. When we called out for peace, CONCORD gave us an endless border war and to this day, reap the profits of the blood of our people.
The Drifters are indeed a greater threat than the Sansha.
But if we're going to band together to face it, we need to first put a viable system in place to mediate our differences. CONCORD is not that system.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1210
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Posted - 2015.08.23 15:39:32 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:But if we're going to band together to face it, we need to first put a viable system in place to mediate our differences. CONCORD is not that system.
Actual cooperation, with an emphasis on the common elements of your self-interests, combined with an organizational ability to manage thousands and thousands of capsuleers...
Wherever could such a thing be found.... |
Sinjin Mokk
Royal Khanid Colonial Exploration
565
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Posted - 2015.08.23 16:03:38 -
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Arrendis wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote:But if we're going to band together to face it, we need to first put a viable system in place to mediate our differences. CONCORD is not that system. Actual cooperation, with an emphasis on the common elements of your self-interests, combined with an organizational ability to manage thousands and thousands of capsuleers... Wherever could such a thing be found....
Just...don't....
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1210
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Posted - 2015.08.23 16:09:51 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:Just...don't....
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Stig Elendil
The Scope
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2015.08.24 15:35:30 -
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Not that i am not stunned by the fact that an entity was able to kill a state leader but i find the term "assassinated" biased, or incorrect.
If you simply look at the facts, a military action was made by the Drifters. That operation resulted in the Empress being killed in action while piloting her combat Titan (unless it was just a traveling one). This has been possible because the Empire simply underestimated the potential threat of the Drifters. Don't forget that the Empress herself told us that this was "under control". It appears clearly to me that in fact it was absolutely not under control. Not that the scientific community didn't warned us all.
According to this i would rather say that a superior officer has been killed in action (after all she was the leader of her armies) and eliminating officers is often happening in wars. It would be eventualy an homicide and could be eventualy a war crime (considering it if she was unarmed and couldn't ripost).
I would have also interrogations concerning the capacity of reaction of her escort. Safizon had been already visited by massive Drifters fleets. Did they take all the security precautions needed ? Apparently not.
I'm afraid this could also happen to another state leader if they don't take this more seriously. As a Gallente, seeing a meeting of officials in Algogille give me concerns about the possibility that Drifters activities has raised in Gallente space and that same events could happen there, and that my country could be the next Drifters target. I hope this will not happen but i feel deeply sad about all those events.
Beside the disagreement on terms used there, i wish to give Amarr People my sincere condolences for the loss of their Empress and all the crew members that died in the Seraph destruction. |
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1368
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Posted - 2015.08.24 19:10:28 -
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Arrendis wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote:But if we're going to band together to face it, we need to first put a viable system in place to mediate our differences. CONCORD is not that system. Actual cooperation, with an emphasis on the common elements of your self-interests, combined with an organizational ability to manage thousands and thousands of capsuleers... Wherever could such a thing be found....
In Yulai ? |
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