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Dust Rocket
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Posted - 2006.12.12 18:47:00 -
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Ok 8 turrets and inaff grid and cpu to put on Miner IIs. Will it outmine the other mining bs? Lows u can fit extenders or wcs or what u need and mid slots free for shield tank?
Its just a thought cause i mine in hulk
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Egil Kolsto
Caldari
Collwood Collective
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Posted - 2006.12.12 19:05:00 -
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I think it does very nicely,
8x Miner IIs and 4 mining upgrades in low.
HUGE tank and drone bays makes for a very decent high-sec tank.
Passive hardeners in mids for me, no reason to waste CPU not mining..
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DrLogan
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.12.12 23:20:00 -
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Any setups for a rokh with 8x miner IIs and 2 mining upgrades that can tank a 0.0 spawn (maybe a ****ty one) indefinatly?
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pshepherd
Caldari
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: pshepherd on 13/12/2006 00:08:15
 Originally by: DrLogan
Any setups for a rokh with 8x miner IIs and 2 mining upgrades that can tank a 0.0 spawn (maybe a ****ty one) indefinatly?
i haven't found one, i tried shield boosting but either ran out of cap or didn't repair enough, so i'm now running 3 hardners and a large t2 armor rep. works perfectly against all npc sizes.
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Jameroz
Independent Frontiers
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:20:00 -
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Try something like Large Shield Booster, Shield Boost Amplifier, 2x Active Hardeners, 2x Cap rechargers
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PastaMadaFaka
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: pshepherd
Edited by: pshepherd on 13/12/2006 00:08:15
Originally by: DrLogan
Any setups for a rokh with 8x miner IIs and 2 mining upgrades that can tank a 0.0 spawn (maybe a ****ty one) indefinatly?
i haven't found one, i tried shield boosting but either ran out of cap or didn't repair enough, so i'm now running 3 hardners and a large t2 armor rep. works perfectly against all npc sizes.
i would try shield tanking works better 
if u run out of cap try passive tanking 3 invuls and 3 extenders :P
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Artmedis Valben
Gallente
Lobster of Babel
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:45:00 -
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Can almost match a covetor if fitted with 8 Modulated Deep Core Miner IIs and tech 2 crystals and 4 mining upgrades in lows.
3190m3 as opposed to 3566m3 per cycle in a Covetor
(Hulk can have 4305m3 per cycle)
(Rokh with Miner IIs can have 2735m3 per 3 cycles)
Figures are maxed out without gang or implant bonuses
For tank try cosmos or officer stuff. 2xCap rechargers, 2xInvul, Shield Boost Amplifier, XL shield booster (on manual), trade one mining upgrade for damage control (if necessary) 
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Cynoslaver
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:16:00 -
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It's bad enough having to use miner 2's for 60 30/60 sec mineral moves, instead of deep core, no one is going to want to use shield boost on manual for crying out loud :)
If this ship can't run with shield booster on auto then it's way too much hassle, peeps need to be able to walk away from keyboard from time to time without having to clicky clicky the shield boost lol
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Edsel
Dominus Nihil Development
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cynoslaver
It's bad enough having to use miner 2's for 60 30/60 sec mineral moves, instead of deep core, no one is going to want to use shield boost on manual for crying out loud :)
If this ship can't run with shield booster on auto then it's way too much hassle, peeps need to be able to walk away from keyboard from time to time without having to clicky clicky the shield boost lol
You cant exactly walk away when your cargo hold is full every few minutes anyway so whats the difference?
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Vargrh
Gallente
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.14 04:15:00 -
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Edited by: Vargrh on 14/12/2006 04:15:39
Now we have barges in game, BS should be fixed so they can't fit miner 1 and miner 2 (or deep core)
 
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Aira Phlux
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Posted - 2006.12.14 08:20:00 -
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So you would restrict turret miner lasers to ships like the Bantam and Osprey ... or are they banned too ? :P
Want 0.0 bantam tank please ...
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Dust Rocket
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:05:00 -
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As long as exumers cant tank 0.0 spawns indeffenely Bs mining is an option
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Verite Rendition
Caldari
AUS Corporation
CORE.
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Posted - 2006.12.14 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Verite Rendition on 14/12/2006 21:24:34
Edited by: Verite Rendition on 14/12/2006 21:24:23
Originally by: Dust Rocket
As long as exumers cant tank 0.0 spawns indeffenely Bs mining is an option
They can. Give me a Hulk and a Gistii shield booster, and I'll make a Hulk that tanks everything using nothing more than faction gear(e.g. DG hardeners) and rigs. I've got Hulks tanking Guristas with active hardeners and passive shield regen right now.
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Dust Rocket
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Posted - 2006.12.14 22:09:00 -
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Can u send me your setup ingame i do own a booster and some of them Dg hardeners.
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: Shan''Talasha Mea''Questa on 15/12/2006 10:22:58
And not everyone wants to train for Barges.
And... will someone slap the person who tries to armor tank a ship with a shield resist bonus. 
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hired goon
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.16 01:20:00 -
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I tested the rokh for an apoc-miner replacement on SISI.
It's the BS with the most CPU, and it can fit 8 miner II's PLUS a full shield tank AND mining upgrades - and if you add in the shield resistances bonus - it seems perfect.
In practice though the cap for the miners AND the tank vanishes at once. You may be able to tank a cruiser spawn if you find one in 0.0 but even then you're pushing it. There's just too little cap... and the tiny drone bay doesn't help matters if you want to kill a spawn or even use mining drones.
For me the new king BS miner is the Hyperion with its repper bonus and nice drone bay. It has a cargo the same size as my apoc (as opposed to smaller like the rokh) and more CPU. It can fit 8 miner II's, a nice armour tank which can tank a BS spawn easy, and sustain it with 5 mids for capchargers. There is no CPU room for mining upgrades though, infact you will need to fit CPU II's. Though what you end up with is comfortably (but not massively) superior to the apoc for tank mining in 0.0.
If you want a ship that can mine loads but not tank, i'd recommend a barge in the place of a gimped Rokh. Of course ideally you'd have one account in a hyperion and the other in a hulk :p
-omg-
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.12.16 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 16/12/2006 12:34:23
http://www.openopinion.com/Testing/uploader/files/7/rokh%20miner.jpg
8x miner-II
2x active hardener, med shield booster II, boost amp, cap recharger.
4x miner upgrade, co-cpu
When used in a group its teh win
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franny
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.12.17 07:17:00 -
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a trick to help it tank, if 2boxing(or more)
shield maint drones
find a medium/small spawn, start to tank it, warp in the 2nd/3rd/254th person, have them send some medium shield drones to help the BS tank
it lowers the 2nd person's mining a little, if they would have used mining drones with a sustainable tanker(like the domi)
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Armageddia
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Posted - 2006.12.17 19:56:00 -
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with about maxed mining upgrade skills and others u get about 120 ish / min without group bonus out of it
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