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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.09 17:21:00 -
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It's just ME at the moment, but I'll be putting the timings in soon enough, and probably a call out to one of the market data sites for material and item costs in Jita.
What it does:
- Shows you material use for blueprints, allowing for adjustment to ME and your production efficiency by slider
Todo list
- I need to get it to use the proper waste percentage. Right now it assumes 10%
- Look at negative ME values, to see how they work, and how I can make them work.
- I need to get it to put in the extra materials. Right now, it's base materials only.
- I need to update the underlying DB for crucible. Just Incarna for now.
- I need to tie it into a price system.
- I need to make it look pretty.
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/
It's inspired by http://zofu.no-ip.de/bpo but with some sliders for you to do your own adjustments. up to 500 ME |
Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2011.12.09 19:48:00 -
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DB: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=493110#post493110
Negative ME: http://wiki.eve-id.net/Equations
Extra Materials: Get in touch with Lutz Major. He has a PhD on the subject (and an unsigned Minmatar Graduation Certificate). |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.09 22:53:00 -
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Neat :) Thanks. Some updates put in place. |
Rasz Lin
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Posted - 2011.12.10 01:43:00 -
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make it remember last skill ME PE, or accept them as an argument in url so you can bookmark url with them already set |
Quentin Rush
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.10 18:44:00 -
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Looking good, keep up the good work.
Maybe some ideas?
-production time now is in station
Maybe ad POS (normal and rapid production) and the use of the manufacturing implant?
Pefect PE?
-cost
Maybe add the price of the wasted materials when you don't have perfect ME / see how much you can profit from reseach
Same for wasted PE?
Dunno what is possible, but keep it up, it's looking good. And a good tool never looks pretty 
QR |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.10 19:06:00 -
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Rasz Lin wrote:make it remember last skill ME PE, or accept them as an argument in url so you can bookmark url with them already set
Done! 
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/calc.php?bpid=16242&me=7&mpe=5&pe=246&ind=5 |
Rasz Lin
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Posted - 2011.12.10 23:15:00 -
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almost there, but not quite :) when you enter another item in search window and click search it forgets pe me
basiaclly people have toons skilled to certain PE ME, requiring them to set it EVERY TIME they use the thing is a bad design
personally i use old wolfsinger's Beta BPC calculator, its slow,half broken and has old prices :/ but it works :)
yours will be perfect once it remembers stuff so i dont have to click in 5 places every time i use it |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.11 00:41:00 -
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Should now do what you want. Doesn't maintain blueprint details, but does, if you hit the link, sets cookies that stores your Industry and production efficiency. It'll maintain it between sessions too (As long as the browser manages cookies right. I think the IGB does)
Doesn't work quite the way that you suggested, but should be more useful long term. Cookie settings are overridden by the settings in the link.
At some point in the future, I may add cookie storage for specific blueprints.
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Rasz Lin
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Posted - 2011.12.11 01:31:00 -
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nope
you enter http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/calc.php?bpid=16242&me=7&mpe=5&pe=246&ind=5
in igp
you type in for example kestrel
you click do calculations
PE and ME reset to 1 |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.11 02:17:00 -
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Quentin Rush wrote:Looking good, keep up the good work. Maybe some ideas? -production time now is in station Maybe ad POS (normal and rapid production) and the use of the manufacturing implant? Pefect PE? -cost Maybe add the price of the wasted materials when you don't have perfect ME / see how much you can profit from reseach Same for wasted PE? Dunno what is possible, but keep it up, it's looking good. And a good tool never looks pretty QR
Regular POS time added. If I do the rapid time, I'll need to add in the modification to materials. Probably a future release.
Thinking about implant time.
Price for wasted materials added.
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Filskit
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.13 13:48:00 -
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Hi, cool work, I like it better than having to have yet another "app" in my computer.
How about the ability to enter and save our own mineral prices? |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.13 20:13:00 -
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Filskit wrote:Hi, cool work, I like it better than having to have yet another "app" in my computer.
How about the ability to enter and save our own mineral prices?
There you go. :) It'll store the prices in a cookie specifically for that. Just hit the edit link on the prices, stick in your new ones (if the change doesn't show up, just hit enter and it should)
Then hit the save link to persist them.
Anyone who recently ran into trouble, oops. my bad. I was editing the live copy when I thought I was on the dev copy. |
Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.14 06:45:00 -
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Hum according to this megas are underwater in JIta. Can you add a melt value listing?
Also is there any way to save multiple jobs and output a list of materials needed? |
Lutz Major
Austriae Est Imperare Orbi Universo
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Posted - 2011.12.14 08:55:00 -
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Hello Steve!
Nice and easy to use page. Thank you for sharing and I must say, your response times to customer proposals are exemplary
I hope you will update your page soon with my little notes: You are not calculating your quotes correctly. Sadly there is much more to do than selecting the invTypeMaterials and ramTypeRequirements table 
I) Removing recylceable material components
If a component in the ramTypeRequirements table is marked as recycleable you have to remove it's components from the raw section. An example is the Improved Cloaking Device II (http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/calc.php?bpid=11577&me=0&mpe=1&pe=0&ind=1). There are 20 Morphite in the raw category but you must remove those 10 from the Prototype Cloaking Device and then calculate the wastage:
[code]
|====================================================================|
| NAME | REQUIRED | MISSING | DMG/JOB | WASTE |
|====================================================================|
| Raw Material (1x) | | | | |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Morphite | 13 | 13 | 100.00% | 23.0% |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Extra Material (6x) | | | | |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Graviton Pulse Generator | 10 | 10 | 100.00% | |
| Miniature Electronics | 5 | 5 | 100.00% | |
| Photon Microprocessor | 10 | 10 | 100.00% | |
| Prototype Cloaking Device I | 1 | 1 | 100.00% | |
| R.A.M.- Electronics | 1 | 1 | 15.00% | |
| Transmitter | 10 | 10 | 100.00% | |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Skill (3x) | | | | |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Graviton Physics | 2 | 2 | | |
| Industry | 5 | 5 | | |
| Quantum Physics | 2 | 2 | | |
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
Quote for: Improved Cloaking Device II, Material Efficiency Level: 0
Production Efficiency Skill: I, Production Slot Modifier: 1.0
[/code]
(I set that in code blocks for the one day, CCP decides to reintroduce it)
Please see the posts by Matthew and Fubar http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1220024#30 and following
II) Production Efficiency Waste:
PE waste also applies to extra materials (!) IF and ONLY IF, the same components are in the raw materials. A good example are bombs: http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/calc.php?bpid=27918&me=0&mpe=1&pe=0&ind=1
You see that there are "only" 3k Tritanium waste, but the in-game quote is much, much higher, because the waste is also applied to the extra materials making the bill of materials like this
[code]
|===============================================================|
| NAME | REQUIRED | MISSING | DMG/JOB | WASTE |
|===============================================================|
| Raw Material (7x) | | | | |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
| Isogen | 2,290 | 13,675 | 100.00% | 99.5% |
| Megacyte | 83 | 432 | 100.00% | 87.9% |
| Mexallon | 12,000 | 71,933 | 100.00% | 99.9% |
| Nocxium | 467 | 2,735 | 100.00% | 97.8% |
| Pyerite | 125,171 | 750,378 | 100.00% | 99.9% |
| Tritanium | 287,068 | 1,657,408 | 100.00% | 96.5% |
| Zydrine | 320 | 1,855 | 100.00% | 96.8% |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
| Extra Material (7x) | | | | |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
| Isogen | 11,385 | 13,675 | 100.00% | |
| Megacyte | 349 | 432 | 100.00% | |
| Mexallon | 59,933 | 71,933 | 100.00% | |
| Nocxium | 2,268 | 2,735 | 100.00% | |
| Pyerite | 625,207 | 750,378 | 100.00% | |
| Tritanium | 1,370,340 | 1,657,408 | 100.00% | |
| Zydrine | 1,535 | 1,855 | 100.00% | |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
| Skill (1x) | | | | |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
| Industry | 1 | 1 | | |
|---------------------------------------------------------------|
Quote for: Shrapnel Bomb, Material Efficiency Level: 0
Production Efficiency Skill: I, Production Slot Modifier: 1.0
[/code] (Again I'd wish for a code block CPP !!!!!!)
For futher information on the subject, see my post on the old forums about waste http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1561558 |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.14 10:56:00 -
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Grr. Things have to be harder, don't they.
Anyway, Thanks You've done the legwork for why and how it's wrong, so I just need to fix it. I probably should have paid attention to Desmont McCallock. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:40:00 -
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Small bug fixed with regards to negative materials (gas cloud harvester II).
Neatened up the display of materials, when extra materials take them all away.
Added research times. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:50:00 -
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Jas Dor wrote:Hum according to this megas are underwater in JIta. Can you add a melt value listing?
Also is there any way to save multiple jobs and output a list of materials needed?
Melt value as in 'how much I get if I recycle it?' Pretty much the perfect cost, multiplied by whatever recycling value you get based on skills and standing. Or are you wanting to see buy values for materials as well? Hmm. Might bake that into a new page, rather than adding it to this one.
Afraid not on the multiple jobs. Again, might bake that into a new tool, using this one to save off blueprints. Then you'd select the ones you want, stick in a number of runs, and it'd give you the values.
This tool is really based around 'How worth it is it to research this to a particular level'.
But thanks for the suggestions |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.12 16:06:00 -
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Links to specific details are now forum friendly. No more & problems
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/4246/40/5/0/5
/typeid/ME/Industry/PE/Production efficiency
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprints/4246/40/0 also works.
/typeid/ME/PE
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.12 17:31:00 -
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Just to add to the spam: Blueprints can now be stored in a cookie in your browser. One blueprint per item.
Shopping list functionality will be added later.
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.13 12:14:00 -
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oops. Bug introduced by the pretty urls (involving searching for new blueprints) now fixed. You'd have received a 404 error.
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2012.01.13 12:23:00 -
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Very excellent website. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.21 16:09:00 -
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The prices box will now remember where you stick it. (for 700 days or so since you last moved it)
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.27 21:20:00 -
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Very basic run calculator added.
Still need to make it handle extra materials. Single stored blueprint only for now. (well, that's the only way I have it linked up. no time calcs either.)
It'll be honed somewhat over time
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.02.02 16:46:00 -
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That's an xml export option added to the link list up at the top.
Set the details the way you want them, then use the xml link the way you want to. Say, google docs or excel. Or even in a webapp of your own.
Xpath example to use with it:
//totalmaterials/materials/@quantity
If there's a detail you'd like added, give me a yell. I might add more attributes and elements, but I'm not going to take anything away (at least, I see no reason to).
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.02.03 12:52:00 -
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Condensed attribute added to the materials. so you can pull the base and the extra with a single importxml call each, then split them up with other built in functions (using; as a delimiter). keeps it lower than the 50 limit.
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.02.16 18:45:00 -
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Bare table version of the data added, for static values. There's a link on the sheet itself.
Works with Open/Libre Office Calc's load external data.
Far from needed, but potentially useful for your good folks.
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:14:00 -
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Bumping, and mentioning it's a little prettier now ;)
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Turk Fezzik
Merkhan Industries
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2012.05.23 06:25:00 -
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Nice work. Very useful stuff. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.23 09:25:00 -
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Updated for Inferno
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.06.30 22:06:00 -
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Added some basic figures for invention costs. I've not embedded the calculator for the invention chance to try and keep the size of the page down a bit. I did link to it though.
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:56:00 -
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Updated for inferno 1.2
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.08.18 14:49:00 -
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Basic Isk/Hr section added to the time calculations.
Based off buying at jita sell, and selling at Jita sell. If you adjust the prices, it'll adjust the other figures.
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.08.21 21:53:00 -
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Links added to price section, to manufacturing details for what you can make (that makes up what you're making. handy for T2 stuff)
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.09.23 01:24:00 -
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Updated the isk/hr calculator to allow for the removal of invention costs, before the isk/hr is calculated. Defaults to a 10 run bpc per invention run.
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.10.13 16:45:00 -
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Toggle added to switch between sell and buy prices. All based off a somewhat live data feed.
It's pulling prices from a consumer I have running on EMDR. So mineral prices tend to be up to date. Rarer stuff, less so. If you want to look at the latency, I have sell prices being dumped once an hour to http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/market/prices.csv
It covers pretty much everything you might want to make or use while making. Around 2800 items. Some are fairly infrequent.
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
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