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Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.01 08:03:35 -
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Sounds like a conspiracy theory thread. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.09.01 08:21:34 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:The incursion community is what, a couple of hundred people? Not really a huge impact on ISK flow, even if it were true. wasn't there an isk faucet graph at one of the fanfests? I remember incursions paying out a lot, but they also give LP so there is some sink.
yes "couple of hundred players" make about half of the amount of isk the whole of nullsec makes.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
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Posted - 2015.09.01 09:48:02 -
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Yup, totally CCP doing it to reduce the isk players can make, just space-minutes after they increased the rate at which incursions spawn in high sec. 
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Lan Wang
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Posted - 2015.09.01 09:50:43 -
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be funny if drifters just appeared and just started blitzing out sanshas with the middle finger out the window to the incursion runners
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2015.09.01 10:06:58 -
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Lan Wang wrote:yes "couple of hundred players" make about half of the amount of isk the whole of nullsec makes.
Even moreso, when probably the majority of Incursion fleets are actually populated by nullsec players.
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Lan Wang
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Posted - 2015.09.01 10:08:21 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Lan Wang wrote:yes "couple of hundred players" make about half of the amount of isk the whole of nullsec makes.
Even moreso, when probably the majority of Incursion fleets are actually populated by nullsec players.
agreed, multiboxing a afktar and an incursion alt is dank isk 
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Estevan Valladares
WorldTradersGuild.Com
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Posted - 2015.09.01 10:22:32 -
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Yeah, right premisse, wrong conclusion.
This is a more directed incursion rather than a farm fest. But restricting farming in incursions do not actually change plex prices because people will earn less. They will just earn differently.
And I might have been mislead, but this drifter thing is part of lore in the first place, and it is a trial run for a new technology CCP is going to implement as new AI for ordinary NPC all around. It has nothing to do with cheating people off of their ISK.
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Sal Marshall
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.02 19:27:25 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:John Packard wrote:Markus Reese wrote:What is wrong with the devs running their own fleets? As long as they are not fake dev generated characters, they have as much right as anybody to play how they wish. If they want to blitz highsec incursions off the grid? Good for them. Just as long as they are doing it legit as players.
If incursions are up so short that nobody who actually enjoys them can have fun, maybe they can tweak the control timer so they are harder to adjust? See you have just open a can of worms here and that explains the problem at hand. As a customer I feel like I been cheated by power of the creator !!! Bellatrix Invicta wrote:Miner, you're going to need to start making sense and explaining yourself. CCP Is EVIL and T2 miners accounts are worth billions. you buying? The tinfoil is strong with this one. The grammar however, is not.
Utterly fantastic post.
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Sal Marshall
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.02 19:34:42 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Bellatrix Invicta wrote:John Packard wrote:CCP Is EVIL and T2 miners accounts are worth billions. you buying? I know you think this helped, but it really didn't. I think overall hes saying: PLEX prices are too high, so he believes CCP have started running incursions themselves in order to reduce ISK flow to players, so they can't pay those high prices. As a result, the PLEX price will eventually drop because players won't be able to afford to continue paying the current prices as CCP is taking the ISK out of the game themselves through their fleets; and in the meantime, players that use PLEX rather than subscription, have to buy PLEX from CCP thereby increasing CCP's revenue. He's tinfoil wrapped. Extra strength. The incursion community is what, a couple of hundred people? Not really a huge impact on ISK flow, even if it were true.
To reinforce your argument:
On its face the entire idea is stupid. Even if we assume that Incursion accounts for 100% of player activity (which it doesn't): Once ISK have entered into the general economy, that ISK drives the ability to purchase OTHER stuff which supports OTHER economic activities that make ISK. Stopping ISK flow at one point in time does nothing to prevent already made investments in the current economy from bearing their juicy ISKian fruit.. it just slows down future growth.. and then only for the time its actually done This is basic economics, which the OP has probably never even been introduced to.. other than possibly understanding the dictionary definition of the words 'basic economics'.
Between the small number of peeps actually doing Incursions, and the basic economics of the situation: any action on the part of CCP to reduce available currency in circulation represents a really really really really small downward blip in overall growth of Eve's economy and available ISK.
Its... just... stupid. |
Sal Marshall
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.02 19:36:37 -
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Avvy wrote:Sounds like a conspiracy theory thread.
Couldn't agree more. |
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Teckos Pech
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2015.09.02 19:43:48 -
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John Packard wrote:CCP created their own incursion fleet to increase revenue?  I notice a big control over the kundalini a few hours after the new incursion spawn in empire for last several days. Some claim the Russians are behind this and pretty much bent because of the new changes in game. But in reality many believe that EVE very own devs are pulling the strings to try to pool the ISK flow from people buying plex with ISK. Will this hurt CCP market edventually ? Rant Away
I think he is saying that CCP is running an incursion fleet to keep ISK from going into the PLEX market....why I don't know since PLEX serve a number of purposes.
First it blunts the market for illicit ISK sellers.
Second, it can generate revenues for CCP.
[If you have 2 players paying RM, CCP gets something like $29.90. However, if one guy buys a PLEX and sells it to the other guy who PLEXs his account CCP gets $34.90. Not to mention things like skins, etc.]
Third, it can help redistribute ISK in the economy which can help boost the in game economyGǪwhich yes CCP does care about.
And since CCP controls the number of incursions why theyGÇÖd run a fleet just seems really dumb.
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Kaelynne Rose
WTB Somalians
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Posted - 2015.11.19 14:10:03 -
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Low Risk=Low Reward |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.19 14:33:23 -
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Kaelynne Rose wrote:Low Risk=Low Reward
Nice necro there buddy. |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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Posted - 2015.11.19 23:55:30 -
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