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JFxSummoner	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:24:00 - [1] ok spent an hour with a salvage ship in the L4 mission Enemies Abound part 3 and NOT ONE friggin salvage item what is going on??
neccette Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:27:00 - [2] Were the rats mercenary or "insert faction here" navy ships? they still don't drop salvage items.
Shakuul Caldari The Imperial Commonwealth The Sundering	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:28:00 - [3] I just did L4 "The Right Hand Of Zazzmatazz" and nothing dropped.
JFxSummoner	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:28:00 - [4] yes they were galle navy ships
Miri Tirzan Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:29:00 - [5] It appears they fixed the drops for those that already dropped components but did not fix the mercs, faction ships, and non-ship wrecks. svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
neccette Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:31:00 - [6] Originally by: JFxSummoner yes they were galle navy ships that's the problem along with the poster above you. Do a mission against Serpentis/Gurista/Angel/Blood Raider/ect and you'll get salvage materials.
Kahlan Rahl	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:31:00 - [7] tbh mission rats shouldnt drop salvage stuff. That would make belt ratting in empire more attractive.
Kylania Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:32:00 - [8] Missions are not supposed to be farmable, so their success rates will be lower than belt rats/player wrecks. -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap \| CCG Card Lookup
Daegrath	Posted - 2006.12.13 22:01:00 - [9] Edited by: Daegrath on 13/12/2006 22:02:23 It's absurd to think certain missions shouldn't give salvage. There are missions with angel and belt rat types in them. If certain missions don't give salvage, people will stop doing those missions. Amarr/Caldari/ETC Navy ships, merc ships, ALL NPC ships should drop salvage. If T1 rigs are really supposed to change the face of pvp and add diversity, the materials need to be readily available. I just finished War Situation pt4. All amarr navy ships, not one piece of salvage. I won't be doing that mission again. Isn't additional content supposed to encourage people to do other things, not restrict it?
Malena Perpetual Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.13 22:07:00 - [10] Originally by: Daegrath Edited by: Daegrath on 13/12/2006 22:02:23 It's absurd to think certain missions shouldn't give salvage. Just out of curiousity, did every mission that you ran before revelations give out the same amount and type of loot? Cause if they did, I was running for the wrong agent/corp/faction... I certainly learned quickly what the loot was like on each mission, and whether or not I should bother collecting it. If you want a roleplay perspective...perhaps your shot pierced the reactor and turned everything into unuseable irradiated junk.
Tao Han Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.13 22:09:00 - [11] Why must everything be available to mission runners, it is not the only thing to do in this game. Finally something that ppl need to go to belt rats for and you whiney mission runners start with this crap. I dont give a **** about how realistic it is, its something useful you can do in lowsec or just plain belt hunting. Get over yourselves, please. DO NOT SALVAGE IN MISSIONS.... ----------------------------- The question that EVE-TV dismissed as a "crap question", are Titan pilots nude. Sign the petition.
Becq Starforged Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services	Posted - 2006.12.13 22:18:00 - [12] Originally by: Daegrath Edited by: Daegrath on 13/12/2006 22:02:23 It's absurd to think certain missions shouldn't give salvage. There are missions with angel and belt rat types in them. If certain missions don't give salvage, people will stop doing those missions. Amarr/Caldari/ETC Navy ships, merc ships, ALL NPC ships should drop salvage. If T1 rigs are really supposed to change the face of pvp and add diversity, the materials need to be readily available. I just finished War Situation pt4. All amarr navy ships, not one piece of salvage. I won't be doing that mission again. Isn't additional content supposed to encourage people to do other things, not restrict it? Generally speaking, I believe salvage is set up so that "pirate" factions (Angels, etc) traded a majority of their loot in exchange for salvage, whereas drones and "fleet" ships (Amarr, Caldari, etc) drop normal loot (or compounds) but have no salvage. I have yet to try out salvage after today's patch, but unless it's significantly better than it was yesterday, I'd happily give it up in exchange for actually getting loot like we used to. It's gotten to the point that I don't bother looting my Angel missions any more; it's just not worth the effort per ISK. -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!
Beef Hardslab AlphaHivE	Posted - 2006.12.13 22:25:00 - [13] Originally by: Daegrath If T1 rigs are really supposed to change the face of pvp and add diversity, the materials need to be readily available. They ARE readily available - get out to the belts. Originally by: Daegrath Isn't additional content supposed to encourage people to do other things, not restrict it? Like, do something other than run the same 40 missions over and over?
Lumelame	Posted - 2006.12.13 22:25:00 - [14] Just finish a level 4 Serpentis Blokade Find : 196 Salvage componants (105 circuits and 91 others) Cuircuit are mostly on BS (between 2 and 5, one BS give me 10 circuits)
Wolfmoon	Posted - 2006.12.13 22:39:00 - [15] Originally by: Daegrath Edited by: Daegrath on 13/12/2006 22:02:23 It's absurd to think certain missions shouldn't give salvage. There are missions with angel and belt rat types in them. If certain missions don't give salvage, people will stop doing those missions. Bingo. You can beg to make high sec so boring nobody will ever want to be there, but you know what? Not only will they not be there, they wont be in low sec or no sec either. Without hijacking the thread, the devs know what needs to be done to repop lowsec. The question is wether or not they are willing to get off their egos and do it.
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.13 22:44:00 - [16] Originally by: JFxSummoner ok spent an hour with a salvage ship in the L4 mission Enemies Abound part 3 and NOT ONE friggin salvage item what is going on?? The risk vs. reward matrix for level 4 missions (especially empire ones) is already where it should be. The Dev's intent was never to make this more lucrative. However, feel free to venture to low security and 0.0 space, you will find plenty of rats that all have nice bounties, good drops and salvagable comps.
Jumpp Oberon Incorporated Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.12.13 22:57:00 - [17] The difference as of today is huge. Belt rat battleships are dropping maybe ten times the salvage they used to? The price of salvage is about to crash and crash hard. I'm betting that within weeks, it'll be possible to build rigs for no more than a few tens of millions.
Sandown Minmatar	Posted - 2006.12.13 22:58:00 - [18] Originally by: JFxSummoner ok spent an hour with a salvage ship in the L4 mission Enemies Abound part 3 and NOT ONE friggin salvage item what is going on?? I find if you go to overview settings, click on the ships tab, check the ship type box. Now when you salvaging if you look at the wreck with your pointer it will have one of these at the end. (wreck) these I have never found salvage from. Now if it says (Faction Small/Medium/Large Wreck) These do.
d026 Herrscher der Zeit Jagdgeschwader The Pentagram	Posted - 2006.12.13 22:59:00 - [19] my alt is salvaging in deep 0.0. getting components from almost every ship:)
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.12.13 23:02:00 - [20] Originally by: Montaire Originally by: JFxSummoner ok spent an hour with a salvage ship in the L4 mission Enemies Abound part 3 and NOT ONE friggin salvage item what is going on?? The risk vs. reward matrix for level 4 missions (especially empire ones) is already where it should be. The Dev's intent was never to make this more lucrative. However, feel free to venture to 0.0 space, you will find plenty of rats that all have nice bounties, good drops and salvagable comps. Fixed, there is no reason to be in low sec unless you like losing isk/ships/pods.
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.13 23:13:00 - [21] If these ships aren't meant be salvagable then they wouldn't drop wrecks. I think the Devs were/are in a time crunch and haven't fixed certain wrecks yet. "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers
Ogdru Jahad Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.13 23:14:00 - [22] Actually salvaging stuff has increased alot. :) yay for my pocket! -
Pang Grohl Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.13 23:25:00 - [23] Yay!! Mission running is already a too necessary evil. Don't make it necessary for rig building as well. Oh, and metal scraps were coming up in my salvage of faction/merc ships before the patch last night, has that changed? Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting)
Latish	Posted - 2006.12.14 01:30:00 - [24] <shrug>. I just did a lvl 4 against Sansha and got over 140 parts from salvage.
Miri Tirzan Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 01:40:00 - [25] Originally by: Tao Han Why must everything be available to mission runners, it is not the only thing to do in this game. Finally something that ppl need to go to belt rats for and you whiney mission runners start with this crap. I dont give a **** about how realistic it is, its something useful you can do in lowsec or just plain belt hunting. Get over yourselves, please. DO NOT SALVAGE IN MISSIONS.... Actually, why dont you get over yourself. Wrecks are wrecks just because you dont like doing missions or people that do missions does not mean we want to hear your whine. svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
Arthur DaKine Gallente 808 Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.14 03:12:00 - [26] I followed a corpmate on guristas extravaganza lvl 3 and salvaged at least 50 units of various goods. Works for me. _ _ CEO 808 Enterprises Freighter Service Available Officiall not a bob alt corp :)

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