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Lily Savage CryoTech	Posted - 2006.12.13 23:06:00 - [1] Well, not totally, but you can get nanotransistors, hypersynaptic fibres and strontium clathrates by refining NPC bought scan probes like the snoop and ferret etc. They work out at pretty competitive prices too. Whether people will actually bother to do so is another matter, but it does put an artificial price cap on those three items. Were the material requirements for scan probes fully thought through?
Alexi Borizkova Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.12.17 14:04:00 - [2] Indeed, is being able to buy complex moon materials off the NPC market an intended feature?
Tramp Oline	Posted - 2006.12.17 20:50:00 - [3] Thanks for the tip! It was cheaper to buy the Snoop probes and refine them than it was to go to Jita and buy the materials off the market. I saved about 120 million and now have a nice supply of Stront to build the new exploration probes with. It also saved me a couple hours in a freighter flying to Jita and back. \o/
Tramp Oline	Posted - 2006.12.17 22:50:00 - [4] Edited by: Tramp Oline on 17/12/2006 22:51:21 I could have placed buy order and bought the still a little cheaper, but it's nice to not have to leave my region to find decently priced materials. I was short of mega, nanos, and hypersynaptic fibers so it was a perfect solution for me. Even though Stront is overpriced right now it's offset by the fact that mega, nanos, and hypersynaptic fibers haven't been this low in over a year.
Hehulk Slacker Industries	Posted - 2006.12.17 23:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Tramp Oline Even though Stront is overpriced right now it's offset by the fact that mega, nanos, and hypersynaptic fibers haven't been this low in over a year. Hold that thought ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it
Tramp Oline	Posted - 2006.12.18 00:05:00 - [6] Edited by: Tramp Oline on 18/12/2006 00:05:46 HeHe, that's why I spent 5 billion on Mega, Zyd, and Morphite today. I don't expect prices to stay this low for long. Originally by: Hehulk Originally by: Tramp Oline Even though Stront is overpriced right now it's offset by the fact that mega, nanos, and hypersynaptic fibers haven't been this low in over a year. Hold that thought
Darpz Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.18 06:24:00 - [7] Originally by: Tramp Oline Edited by: Tramp Oline on 18/12/2006 00:05:46 HeHe, that's why I spent 5 billion on Mega, Zyd, and Morphite today. I don't expect prices to stay this low for long. Originally by: Hehulk Originally by: Tramp Oline Even though Stront is overpriced right now it's offset by the fact that mega, nanos, and hypersynaptic fibers haven't been this low in over a year. Hold that thought lmao your going ot lose your ass :P I got 100k zyd 20k mega 3k morph from 9 hours of rating this weekend in the new regions. solo in a domi. highend is going to crash so hard its not funny
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.12.18 10:19:00 - [8] Originally by: Darpz Originally by: Tramp Oline Edited by: Tramp Oline on 18/12/2006 00:05:46 HeHe, that's why I spent 5 billion on Mega, Zyd, and Morphite today. I don't expect prices to stay this low for long. Originally by: Hehulk Originally by: Tramp Oline Even though Stront is overpriced right now it's offset by the fact that mega, nanos, and hypersynaptic fibers haven't been this low in over a year. Hold that thought lmao your going ot lose your ass :P I got 100k zyd 20k mega 3k morph from 9 hours of rating this weekend in the new regions. solo in a domi. highend is going to crash so hard its not funny It's already crashing, I have never seen Zyd prices so low. This is going to be a problem sooner or later. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Darpz Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.19 19:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: Darpz Originally by: Tramp Oline Edited by: Tramp Oline on 18/12/2006 00:05:46 HeHe, that's why I spent 5 billion on Mega, Zyd, and Morphite today. I don't expect prices to stay this low for long. Originally by: Hehulk Originally by: Tramp Oline Even though Stront is overpriced right now it's offset by the fact that mega, nanos, and hypersynaptic fibers haven't been this low in over a year. Hold that thought lmao your going ot lose your ass :P I got 100k zyd 20k mega 3k morph from 9 hours of rating this weekend in the new regions. solo in a domi. highend is going to crash so hard its not funny It's already crashing, I have never seen Zyd prices so low. This is going to be a problem sooner or later. nah its a cycle. the highends will crash. but because of insurance the cost of a BS can't get too cheap so lowends will rise. when that happens more people will mine lowends which will bring that back in check which will bring highends back up. will take a bit for the market to balance again, but in a few months I imagin we'll be back to the norm
KillerOfMacros	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:05:00 - [10] Thats not exactly accurate... With the intorduction of thye new drone areas acceess to high end minerals are available to "non-mining" type characters. This new group of mining "non-miners" will change the way the high end prices run and will have a lasting effect on prices throughout all the regions in EVE.
Ezra Gallente Calista Industries	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:11:00 - [11] Originally by: Lily Savage Well, not totally, but you can get nanotransistors, hypersynaptic fibres and strontium clathrates by refining NPC bought scan probes like the snoop and ferret etc. They work out at pretty competitive prices too. Whether people will actually bother to do so is another matter, but it does put an artificial price cap on those three items. Were the material requirements for scan probes fully thought through? So, exactly how does the increased availability of two moon-derived materials (out of how many? Quite a few) and ONE ice product completely obsolete all POS functionality? (moon-mining, reacting, etc.) Especially since demand for those same materials has increased for the new probes. ------------ Ezra Cornell pe0n, Calista Industries
Alexi Borizkova Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.12.20 02:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Ezra So, exactly how does the increased availability of two moon-derived materials (out of how many? Quite a few) and ONE ice product completely obsolete all POS functionality? (moon-mining, reacting, etc.) Especially since demand for those same materials has increased for the new probes. It doesn't, obviously, but it DOES put an artificial ceiling on prices, and has a gigantic magic hole that these components can fall out of in infinite quantities. Kind of like how you can get infinite tritanium for, what, 3 isk each if you buy and reprocess shuttles. Anywhere. So, haul 80m trit from a market hub for 2.2-2.4 or buy it on site for 3, losing a whole 40m to not have to make a freighter run. Not saying everyone does, but I am certain that some people do. Also, combine the fact that a scan probe takes up 0.025 m3, and carries 5 strontium worth, what, 10m3, and another m3 of t2 comps, with minerals besides. Instead of doing a freighter run to pick up moon materials and strontium for your tower/dreads you can send an alt in a simple indy down to the nearest concord quik-n-go to pick up probes, and essentially negate the man hours, logistics and risk involved in the moon mining. I am seeing a marked drop in demand coupled with supply piling up for related parts of hypersynaptic fibers and nanotransistors already. I might just be wrong, and there might have been a marked increase in production after the patch, but I somehow doubt it, considering the inherent utility in the probe buying. I still want to know if this is intended or not by the devs.
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.20 13:59:00 - [13] Originally by: KillerOfMacros Thats not exactly accurate... With the intorduction of thye new drone areas acceess to high end minerals are available to "non-mining" type characters. This new group of mining "non-miners" will change the way the high end prices run and will have a lasting effect on prices throughout all the regions in EVE. Writes a message in notebook to bring up to high command. Seems there is a place where there are non blues. New NPC Region
Lab Technician071548	Posted - 2006.12.20 23:20:00 - [14] Originally by: Darpz lmao your going ot lose your ass :P I got 100k zyd 20k mega 3k morph from 9 hours of rating this weekend in the new regions. solo in a domi. highend is going to crash so hard its not funny It will be funny. All manufactured t1 items will become commoditized. There will be no point to shop for the most efficient producer because the insufficiently efficient producers will go bankrupt and everyone else will end up selling for something like 10% over insurance. Whether this means that CCP will reduce insurance prices remains to be seen. They certainly opened the door to a lot of unknowns about how the market will play out.
Alexi Borizkova Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.12.21 02:22:00 - [15] Originally by: Lab Technician071548 Originally by: Darpz lmao your going ot lose your ass :P I got 100k zyd 20k mega 3k morph from 9 hours of rating this weekend in the new regions. solo in a domi. highend is going to crash so hard its not funny It will be funny. All manufactured t1 items will become commoditized. There will be no point to shop for the most efficient producer because the insufficiently efficient producers will go bankrupt and everyone else will end up selling for something like 10% over insurance. Whether this means that CCP will reduce insurance prices remains to be seen. They certainly opened the door to a lot of unknowns about how the market will play out. Hi there, welcome to eve. This has been the t1 market for a while now. Except that you can still make actual profit in moving items out to the hinterlands. For a while now, most production has been about selling 8k of the zyd you already have in a ship, not about making some hefty profit.

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