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Alessienne Ellecon
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.03 13:25:47 -
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Now, we know that most of the NPCs in eve are just mission agents: even some key characters are manipulated behind the scenes by CCP. (That's my understanding of it, anyway.)
But what about those 'Jita Bears' who stay perpetually docked in trade hubs playing the market? What about the researchers and vendors? In the traditional MMO model, those roles are filled by NPCs, but in EVE they are human players who just never mine, never rat, never run missions and would never dream of PvP. They are, in short, Nondricks.
If you follow that link, you'll see what I mean. EVE is filled with people who have taken on the traditional roles in order to sustain the galactic economy. But then I got to thinking: once citadels come out, could we begin to see lonely outposts with single players selling rare items? Could I get a invite to dock my cruiser at Slim Cognito's shack in some godforsaken wormhole system and buy some rare officer modules? |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
151
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Posted - 2015.09.03 13:27:48 -
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Are you behaving like an NPC?
Yes, I'm the station janitor. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.03 13:43:25 -
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Alessienne Ellecon wrote:But then I got to thinking: once citadels come out, could we begin to see lonely outposts with single players selling rare items? This is the only worry with citadels. Hopefully they'll be easy enough to assault that hub systems don't turn into that classic "50,000 market stalls" area you get in other MMOs.
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Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
280
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Posted - 2015.09.03 13:51:35 -
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I'm the space-police/town-guard.
And that's the beauty of EvE, it's all player run! |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.09.03 13:59:37 -
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im an exotic dancer
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Persephone Alleile
Nocx Initiative Eternal Pretorian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.03 14:03:59 -
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I used to be a PVP pilot like you but then I took a Republic Navy Phased Plasma round to the knee. |
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
942
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Posted - 2015.09.03 14:13:17 -
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I am undocker...i just have to do it.... |
Khan Wrenth
Ore Oppression Prevention and Salvation
211
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Posted - 2015.09.03 14:21:17 -
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I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
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Alessienne Ellecon
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.03 15:05:01 -
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Persephone Alleile wrote:I used to be a PVP pilot like you but then I took a Republic Fleet Phased Plasma round to the knee.
Now say it with a metal bucket on your head. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2015.09.03 16:26:23 -
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"More from the players, less from the NPC's" is in fact one of CCP's goals.
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Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
476
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Posted - 2015.09.03 16:29:26 -
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We all play the game like NPCs but were only half as smart.
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
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Nalia White
Tencus
140
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Posted - 2015.09.03 16:37:49 -
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Alessienne Ellecon wrote:Persephone Alleile wrote:I used to be a PVP pilot like you but then I took a Republic Fleet Phased Plasma round to the knee. Now say it with a metal bucket on your head.
and a nordic accent |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11592
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Posted - 2015.09.03 16:38:21 -
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I have actually had people shoot me while suspect thinking I was an NPC. Not new players either, granted I was in their mission pocket shooting their stuff and all but you would think a character older than I would have figured out the difference
Better the Devil you know.
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Arthur Aihaken
Chig
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Posted - 2015.09.03 16:38:36 -
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Ship spinning takes a lot of effort.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.09.03 17:16:51 -
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I am the Watcher. I like to Watch.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2015.09.03 17:25:28 -
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How do I know you aren't an NPC?
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Dersen Lowery
Scanners Live in Vain
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Posted - 2015.09.03 18:07:21 -
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I'm just a gigolo.
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
800
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Posted - 2015.09.03 18:11:14 -
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The non-official term for NPC's that behave like this is "alt" |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1575
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Posted - 2015.09.03 18:22:53 -
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Yarda Black wrote:The non-official term for NPC's that behave like this is "alt" that's the other question, how many of those are alts? my jita character is an alt. Plus you can set an order and leave it on its own for up to 90days
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Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
357
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Posted - 2015.09.03 18:45:42 -
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Alessienne Ellecon wrote:Are you behaving like an NPC? No. Are you?
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.03 20:25:09 -
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I am not entirely sure what you are asking.
NPCs in Eve don't really seem to fulfill any functions beyond handing out missions and blowing up Code anyways. I guess you could say NPCs sell skills and trade goods but the latter is not really all that important for Eve to continue funtioning.
We're not NPCs. We're players and that's how Eve works. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2015.09.03 20:26:11 -
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If you shoot at player controled ships, if you are mostly red for everybody, If you have a bounty on your head, you are behaving like an NPC.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11595
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Posted - 2015.09.03 20:27:54 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:If you shoot at player controled ships, if you are mostly red for everybody, If you have a bounty on your head, you are behaving like an NPC.
Better the Devil you know.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
2307
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Posted - 2015.09.03 20:33:23 -
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Everyone can behave like a NPC, there is those Code gate NPCs, there are those belt rat NPCs that shoot miners, there are missions with blobs of NPCs.
Don't kid yourself, AI could potentially be programmed to fight perfectly, keep perfect ranges, warp at the same time, react with precision - negating all the squishy slow and stupid things humans do.
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There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.03 20:51:10 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Everyone can behave like a NPC, there is those Code gate NPCs, there are those belt rat NPCs that shoot miners, there are missions with blobs of NPCs.
Don't kid yourself, AI could potentially be programmed to fight perfectly, keep perfect ranges, warp at the same time, react with precision - negating all the squishy slow and stupid things humans do.
One thing I've never seen an AI achieve yet and that is to be unpredictable. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.09.03 20:53:11 -
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Some reason this thread reminds me of this. EVE needs player owned pleasure hubs.... like they have over in DUST. Pimp my POPH, CCP.
I'm in it for the money
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.09.04 00:43:11 -
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Avvy wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Everyone can behave like a NPC, there is those Code gate NPCs, there are those belt rat NPCs that shoot miners, there are missions with blobs of NPCs.
Don't kid yourself, AI could potentially be programmed to fight perfectly, keep perfect ranges, warp at the same time, react with precision - negating all the squishy slow and stupid things humans do. One thing I've never seen an AI achieve yet and that is to be unpredictable. Just watch your drones for a bit.
They're all a bit rogue.
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Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
482
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Posted - 2015.09.04 12:41:24 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:I am the Watcher. I like to Watch. Quis custodiet custard?
but what would I know, I'm just a salvager
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Jenshae Chiroptera
2307
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Posted - 2015.09.04 13:17:27 -
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Avvy wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Everyone can behave like a NPC, there is those Code gate NPCs, there are those belt rat NPCs that shoot miners, there are missions with blobs of NPCs.
Don't kid yourself, AI could potentially be programmed to fight perfectly, keep perfect ranges, warp at the same time, react with precision - negating all the squishy slow and stupid things humans do. One thing I've never seen an AI achieve yet and that is to be unpredictable. They still can't beat the best humans at Go, which is a simple board game.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7138
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Posted - 2015.09.04 19:21:49 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I have actually had people shoot me while suspect thinking I was an NPC. Not new players either, granted I was in their mission pocket shooting their stuff and all but you would think a character older than I would have figured out the difference
That's what happens with automatically targeting back.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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