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Zylnarius
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.14 21:21:26 -
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Zylnarius wrote:I was wondering if it was coming from me, but after mutliple check of my ssd, oc my computer etc, checked all my drivers (with visual C++, dx etc)
My config : 3570K with a Z77 mb, 660Ti
I need to clear the cache and make a clean instal but I want to share my experience now that I see Im not alone...
edit : cash cleared, still lag, but yeah, its maybe my hardware, i've sometimes some lag in windows, but others games run fine...
Last time I've played, in fleet, big fight, lot of wrecks and drones on the field, with memory setting, even with no brackets my fps dropped to 5*, it was literraly unplayable, I've also noticied some lag in market browser and when I get out of station, my screen stay black sometimes for 10 sec, specially in Jita...
*Btw, the fps drop were worst when I put graphicals settings in memory, in quality setting, it was a little bit better in drop, but still, very low fps...
Sry for my english, ill update if I make progress...
PS : My game run smoothly at 120 fps most of the times, but sometime, very bad fps drop
ps-¦: Im on an old WIN 7 64Bit instal, maybe need a format round or upgrade to win 10? :p
Btw my issue are still not resolved, whern I do fleet fight in pvp its litteraly unplayable, im under 1fps, i dont know if its my hardware or something else, but i had reduced all settings to low, proc and ram are not at more than 35%.... |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2910
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Posted - 2016.02.15 00:44:13 -
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Zylnarius wrote:Btw my issue are still not resolved after a fresh new install, when I do fleet fight in pvp its litteraly unplayable, im under 1fps, i dont know if its my hardware or something else, but i had reduced all settings to low, no bracket etc... proc and ram are not at more than 35%....
Does your processor have at least 2 cores, and are you running a 64-bit version of Windows 7 or later?
If either of those are a no, then that could be part of the problem. If they are both yes, then you might just need to get the most up to date drivers, or possibly a more esoteric set of custom drivers that are not the standard. Sometimes the standard drivers aren't the best for games.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Zylnarius
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.15 11:07:47 -
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Thx for your help, yes my processor is a 4 core I5 3570K, windows 7 64bit, and drivers are up to date.
I dont know wich drivers are the most optimised for eve, I've filled a bug report in game so maybe a Gm could help me.. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2913
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Posted - 2016.02.15 17:22:57 -
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Zylnarius wrote:Thx for your help, yes my processor is a 4 core I5 3570K, windows 7 64bit, and drivers are up to date.
I thought of two more possibilities.
What's your video card and vram, and what size of fleet fight are we talking? Any time dilation?
Also open task manager while running EVE and check the resources tab to verify that EVE is using all 4 cores.
It can probably run on just one core though, what you experience actually sounds more like a video card issue, especially since you've already told me you aren't running EVE on a fossil.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Zylnarius
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.15 22:38:32 -
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https://zkillboard.com/br/69855/ here's the battle report, 170 vs 150
Yes I think we had something like 30% tidi, not much more...
My vcard is a gtx660ti with 2gb of vram, I run other game smoothly and with relatively high graphicals settings...
And Eve is installed on a ssd.
and yeah i think it run on the 4 core http://prntscr.com/a3ruk6 |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2913
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Posted - 2016.02.16 06:59:07 -
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Well all your hardware seems to be good for running EVE, but your processor cost for running EVE seems pretty high for what you're running it on. I would indeed seek help from techie friends/GMs/help sites to see if you can pinpoint the problem. You shouldn't have to run EVE on low settings.
Response from my computer savvy brother:
These are guesses based on what you showed, but I would expect your machine to preform better then that.
1. netsvc is using a lot of CPU in the screencap. Is that normal? You don't show your system RAM usage but Win 7 has a bug on a lot of Win 7 machines involving the WUAUSERV process. try disabling it in the task manager services tab, especially if you have less the 4g of system RAM.
2. You can always try an older driver but if you've been updating them regularly and this isn't new then that's not the issue.
3. if you have less then 2g of system RAM (or even less then 3) that would create a serious bottleneck.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Ugo Mnoguron
Un4seen Development
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2016.02.16 13:13:06 -
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Yes. I have the same issue. It happens and escalates if I have the market window open. On a side note, when I try on searching for an item in my assets and set it as destination, it resets (the items disappear and something else, almost random shows up in the assets search window) and the lag multiplies.
Also, it keeps deteriorating by just jumping 8 gates, to the point that jump effects won't show anymore. The ship just pops up in a system.
I will try clearing stuff, but as others have mentioned, this may not work.
Will keep posting. |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2916
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Posted - 2016.02.16 17:24:38 -
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Ugo Mnoguron wrote:Yes. I have the same issue. It happens and escalates if I have the market window open. On a side note, when I try on searching for an item in my assets and set it as destination, it resets (the items disappear and something else, almost random shows up in the assets search window) and the lag multiplies.
Also, it keeps deteriorating by just jumping 8 gates, to the point that jump effects won't show anymore. The ship just pops up in a system.
I will try clearing stuff, but as others have mentioned, this may not work.
Will keep posting.
I think you might need to post your computer rig stats as well. Can you also provide more detail as to your specific issue? What do you mean by "it keeps deteriorating" when you jump to new systems?
Is your video card or hard drive overheating perhaps? Is your cache full? You can check your cache in the task manager (with Windows). It'll say physical memory and give you a percentage used.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Zylnarius
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.16 20:01:37 -
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http://prntscr.com/a454ny Here's a screen on today fight, I was between 10 and 1fps all the time...
There's also graphical cpu and mermory usage on the right... |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2918
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Posted - 2016.02.17 04:07:51 -
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Zylnarius wrote:btw: Its the same when i desactivate all brackts, put all graphical and effect on minimum...
I believe it, in fact I expect that based on your rig. You should be able to run a fight of that size on medium settings with no significant decrease in performance. So whatever is causing this is likely to be some driver issue or a bug in a separate process. Given how many processes are running in windows and how many bugs there are among them, it is difficult to say what it might be.
I've got a solution for you to try if you're desperate. It's not something any self-respecting computer tech would recommend, then again it isn't going to cause long-term damage to your machine. From the desktop, end the process called explorer. This should shut off the desktop and leave you with just your background image and task manager. Your start menu and icons will all be hidden. Now look through your processes (click show processes from all users) and end any processes that have a high memory usage or that are using the processor, except do not end anything in which SYSTEM is the user.
Once you've cleared some active programs from memory and cleaned out the task list a bit, run EVE from the task manager. Just go to the applications tab and select New Task, then browse. Quite possibly this will cause EVE to run better than you imagined. Even better is if you can cause your computer to boot up without running explorer, a lot of those redundant processes won't even start up in the first place.
I haven't done this with Windows 7 before, but I did it with Windows XP on an older rig and it not only caused the viruses and malware to be completely shut off, it also made everything run faster than when it was new, almost as fast as running on Ubuntu. It seemed to do this by preventing anything but the bare minimum system processes from auto-starting, everything else had to be started manually. You might think all those processes streamline enough things to make the computer run faster and more smoothly, but there's just so much redundant processing and caching going on that it's actually faster to load only the needed processes when they are called for by a specific program.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Zylnarius
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.17 11:47:20 -
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Ok I've done that, removed every auto starting application, Ive removed explorer.exe after the start because I cant kill the task on startup, Ill tell you if its better in fight...
But its seem not better atm, im at 45fps on average, I was at 120fps before with every settings to maximum(on low charge:in pve or travelling alone) , will see what I get on heavy load...
Eve is installed on a ssd, maybe its not a good idea or he's a bit used? :s Here's a screen of ssd perf, some spike at 100% http://imgur.com/A07gzdh
Thx for your time m8 |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2919
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Posted - 2016.02.17 11:51:29 -
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Looks like it's not running all the cores, that might explain the drop in performance.
Probably best to go back to running it with explorer for now, and I'm sorry I don't have any other advice.
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Zylnarius
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.17 12:06:29 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Looks like it's not running all the cores, that might explain the drop in performance.
Probably best to go back to running it with explorer for now, and I'm sorry I don't have any other advice.
No its ssd stat, not cpu, here's the cpu charge http://imgur.com/KzvW3Lo
edit : I dont know, everything looks fine in cpu/ram and vcard charge, Im completly lost, maybe my computer have a bug somewhere or eve have a bug somewhere, will wait GM advice.. x) ty m8 |
Savotien Valpurgis
Razati's trust inc
0
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Posted - 2016.03.06 14:44:32 -
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I have same issues, someone have a solution ? |
Kinwhakkl
Beach Boys
The Minions.
8
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Posted - 2016.03.08 12:06:39 -
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Getting the same problem. On top of that lost 5 ships already due to lagg/socket close. It all started CCP moved the database. Clear EvE install or claning cache didin't work. |
Alexander Skor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.03.08 22:27:38 -
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Same here! |
Rob Kashuken
Dropbears Anonymous
Friendly Probes
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Posted - 2016.03.09 23:22:34 -
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Adding another data point: on the hacking minigame, I'm noticing that it takes 2-3 seconds for each click on a node to register and display.
Only became a problem after the Tranquility server migration. |
Marcus Tarrow
Tachyon Tactical Systems
4
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Posted - 2016.03.09 23:24:29 -
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Rob Kashuken wrote:Adding another data point: on the hacking minigame, I'm noticing that it takes 2-3 seconds for each click on a node to register and display.
Only became a problem after the Tranquility server migration.
+1 on this.
Running data and relic sites today was practically painful, it's gone from registering a couple of mouseclicks per second to a mouseclick every 2 seconds or so. |
Alexander Skor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.03.10 13:27:53 -
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Yep sites were painful... But today I didn't experience larger lags. So I hope the lag is gone. |
Alex Wise
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.03.12 19:15:20 -
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Same here.
I've opened a ticket more than 2 days ago and got no reply since then. I guess CCP don't really know what to do with that. |
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