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Mr Vapor
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Posted - 2003.11.23 18:29:00 -
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For the past 2 days, I have been raiding convoys in the Amarr Empire. Over the course of those 2 days I have set free over 1000 Minmatar slaves from the "Evil Empire." I have now been branded an outlaw and I am hunted by the Sarum Military every time I step foot into the Amarr Empire. They cannot even come close to stopping my progress, however, as it seems they are quite inept at there job. I will deliver the free Minmatars to Malakah and her freedom fighters. I will continue to dive into Amarrian space against the wishes of it's military. I will not be stopped short of my goals.
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Makkar
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Posted - 2003.11.23 18:32:00 -
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Great going, Vapor. Don't let the bastards grind you down.
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Methar Oberon
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Posted - 2003.11.23 20:10:00 -
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I just have a quick question about freeing slaves...wont they die of vitoc withdrawal? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wars are created by frightened men. They are afraid of the consequences of war, but are far more afraid of doing nothing. |

Araviel
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Posted - 2003.11.23 20:50:00 -
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Quote: I just have a quick question about freeing slaves...wont they die of vitoc withdrawal?
vitoc can be bought on the normal market and there are some people providing it for free to the slave liberators.
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Ridley
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Posted - 2003.11.23 22:35:00 -
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Im thanking you Mr Vapor keep on rockin. ______________________________ ------------------------------
"She walks by moonlight No one really knows Enchanted starlight Never goin' home"
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.11.24 04:00:00 -
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Actually only a small percentage of slaves require vitoc.. Common misconception that. |

malakah
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Posted - 2003.11.24 05:07:00 -
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Mr. Vapor I am honored to be mentioned in the same post as this speaking of your great deeds towards our cause. Your brothers and sisters at Mishfakah are behind you in everyway. We will supply you and fight beside you whenever we can. Keep on the good fight and know that your deeds are giving knew life not only to those that you free but to those that fight on with the same cause as you.
*Lady Malakah*
I shall strike those down who claim authority over me until I and my people have proven that freedom is ours to keep |

Methar Oberon
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Posted - 2003.11.24 06:37:00 -
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Ok. Thanks for clearing that up. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wars are created by frightened men. They are afraid of the consequences of war, but are far more afraid of doing nothing. |

Makkar
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Posted - 2003.11.24 09:47:00 -
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Quote: Actually only a small percentage of slaves require vitoc.. Common misconception that.
Yes, that is indeed a common misconception amongst the Amarr. A large proportion of the many thousand slaves we of Oracle have liberated from throughout the Amarr empire have been dependant on Vitoc, thanks to the nerotoxins their former masters were using to keep them from overpowering the overseers and escaping.
I myself was dependant on daily doses of Vitoc for survival, and I recall the agony of withdrawl during the hours it took Oracle to find the correct formula of Vitoc to counter my toxins. I would have been dependant on them for the rest of my life. I guess in a way I was.
If there was but one small gesture that the new Emperor could make toward the Minmatar people, it would be outlawing the use of neurotoxins and Vitoc.
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Kallanagh Tellen
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Posted - 2003.11.24 10:18:00 -
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Outlaw the use of Vitoc? I sincerely hope you are speaking in jest Makkar. As with any savage beast, the Minmatar workforce must be controlled in order to ensure that considerations of uprising is an entirely unfeasable course of action. Whilst virtually all of the population of menial workers are indeed quite content to work inblessed service to the Emperor, there is as with all things, a small percentage who wish to revert to barbarism. Surely you can appreciate that methods must be used in order to control what is a savage race who has not been touched with the light of Civility? We cannot let slaves run amok through the paradise we have created, for much like animals they can become a nuisance once feral. Perhaps if more Minmatar were to display more signs of civility whilst carrying out their service, then perhaps such expensive methods would not have to be utilised. ------------------------------------------
Attache and Heir to House Tellen PIE Inc "Serve the Emperor Above All Others" |

Wren
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Posted - 2003.11.24 10:44:00 -
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Shut it.
This is about Mr Vapor and his recent actions. Please don't drag your dogma and regurgitated nonsense here.
Mr Vapor and Mishfahak, safe travels, and rewarding hunts to you. --------------------------------------------------
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Beringe
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Posted - 2003.11.24 10:45:00 -
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Anyone ever wonder how the Amarr manage to create such a powerful and elusive drug?
Quite frankly, the technology is so advanced that it has baffled both Gallente and Caldari scientists for years, and reminds me more of Jovian biotech than anything else.
No, this is not just paranoia. The vitoc drug is unique in the Amarr empire. All their other biotech is less advanced than the ones produced in Caldari labs.
It's more than just Serpentis who have biotech secrets, it would seem. ------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
"No, it's none of your business." |

Kallanagh Tellen
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Posted - 2003.11.24 10:50:00 -
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I could not have found a better example then in Wren, the apparent master of Minmatar conversation. ------------------------------------------
Attache and Heir to House Tellen PIE Inc "Serve the Emperor Above All Others" |

Makkar
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Posted - 2003.11.24 11:33:00 -
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I see, Kallenagh. And here you show your true colours. You, who not weeks ago was talking with a civil tongue of a desire for understanding. And yet, here you are. Speaking of Minmatar men, women and children as if they were mere beasts of burden. No better than animals.
Estios tried to warn me, but for my naivete, I was content to believe you, of all of your kin, were close to being human, and that rational discussion was indeed possible.
If you think of us as mere animals, there can be no discussion. If you cannot see why neurotoxins and vitoc are inhumane, perhaps you need to be subjected to them. Would that there was a way to do this.
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Wren
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Posted - 2003.11.24 11:54:00 -
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This discussion is not about Vitoc, or about me or the Amarrians who post here. I simply wish for an individual such as Mr Vapor here to have his forum for his own purposes, instead of it being hijacked and twisted by the PR machinery of Oracle or PIE.
Again, fight well, move swift, and free more Minmatar, Mr Vapor and Mishfahak. --------------------------------------------------
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Kallanagh Tellen
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Posted - 2003.11.24 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kallanagh Tellen on 24/11/2003 12:05:48
Makkar, you misunderstand.
I do indeed see great promise for the Minmatar people, whose need for the gifts of civility has become to apparent as of late. The formation of your Republic, although promising, has come into severe doubt with the discovery of a slave farm within your very borders. How can your civilisation stand in the face of such hypocrisy? I actually feel quite saddened that your entire life has been spent in the search for the end of a goal, only to find your own kind undermining you under your very feet. The minmatr within our borders must undertake simple and honest work to start them on their path to salvation, they must honour the Almighty God through the passing of their sweat, blood and tears. There are those whose path has indeed taken them to the brink of understanding, where their lives and the lives of their progeny shall continue forth in the most humble learning of our ways. Although a mere fraction of those who serve us have undertaken this monumental step, it is my sincerest hope that they in the fullness of time, take their place at our side with the races who have gone them before.
The Minmatar at the moment are not indeed mere cattle, they are undertaking a journey to greatness.
As to the matters of Mr Vapor's current quest, he shall be no doubt dealt with in due course. Such an obviously low and insignificant terrorist is of some remote priority in these days of conflict. I will however pay a reasonable some of ISK to receive his frozen corpse for public display, as a warning for further Piracy.
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Attache and Heir to House Tellen PIE Inc "Serve the Emperor Above All Others" |

Makkar
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Posted - 2003.11.24 12:40:00 -
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Save your honeyed words and cajoling for someone else. Away with you, wormtongue. I have heard enough of your sugar coated lies that hint at some sort of compassion and understanding beneath your inhuman ways, when there is none...
For some reason, this saddens me...
Anyway, I reiterate, well done Mr Vapor. Mishfahak, get in touch.
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Tok Narok
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Posted - 2003.11.24 13:23:00 -
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Quote: ...instead of it being hijacked and twisted by the PR machinery of Oracle or PIE.
Sentiments I have echoed myself on other occasions Wren.
We'll be seeing you around, Mr Vapor.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.11.24 15:37:00 -
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Point taken, chewed upon and found worthy ;)
As for you, mr.Vapor, thread lightly, be stealthy and be quick.
Or be dead. ----------------------------------------------
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Cyrus Bishop
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Posted - 2003.11.24 22:19:00 -
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Quote: This discussion is not about Vitoc, or about me or the Amarrians who post here. I simply wish for an individual such as Mr Vapor here to have his forum for his own purposes, instead of it being hijacked and twisted by the PR machinery of Oracle or PIE.
That's hardly possible though, is it? In Mr. Vapor's original statement he speaks on his recent criminal activities in Amarr space, and even refers to them as the "Evil Empire".
Was this topic meant to be an opportunity for other Minmatar to sit around and say "Yup, they sure are", or was it intended to provoke the exact set of responces that make up this discussion? I am inclined to believe the latter.
Cheers.
"Always forgive your enemies--nothing annoys them so much." |
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