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Kaand
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Posted - 2006.12.16 23:08:00 -
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Ive just got my hands on a bpc for one of these babys, playing around with QuickFit (1.1 Kali) and have come up with the following setup:
3 x Medium Diminishing
2 x Light Neutron II
Y-T8 MWD
Langour Web
Faint Epsilon Warp (7.5k)
800mm Tungsten
PDU II
Exp Hardener II
Kin Hardener II
Therm Hardener II
F85 DCU
7 x Hammerhead II
6 x Hobgoblin II
It just fits(acording to quickfit) with 19.75 PG and 1.5 CPU
Can anyone confirm this because according to earlier version of quickfit(1b3) it is about 5 cpu short.
(I have pwr and cpu fitting skills maxed)
Any thoughts / suggestions? I plan on using this in a small pvp group role.
Is this ship worth the cost compared to the other drone ships like the Brutix, Domi and now Myro?
Thanks
Kaand
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Apprehentive
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Posted - 2006.12.17 01:23:00 -
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No armor rep? Are u mad?
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Hunter C8
Caldari
Red Storm Vendetta
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Posted - 2006.12.17 01:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Apprehentive
No armor rep? Are u mad?
Indeed!!!
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Apprehentive
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Posted - 2006.12.17 02:26:00 -
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Edited by: Apprehentive on 17/12/2006 02:29:27
But really, against a blasterboat, your armor will go down like butter. Even with that 800mm plate.
If this is supposed to be a passive armor tank, at least use a 1600mm plate.
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Segmentor
Hunters Agency
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.17 02:28:00 -
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Rofl, no rep? Give that vexor to me, ull get it back when you have a clue.
Oh, and Brutix's no drone boat either.
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Kaand
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Posted - 2006.12.17 02:29:00 -
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Well have no pwr grid for a medium repper and a small one is just a waste of a low slot, ir ur called primary ur dead anyway.
Its called passive tanking!, flown a Vigilant like it for ages (with a 1600 plate), should still take a while to chew through the armour. Dont see the point in peeps fitting a small repper for repairing after fight, got corp mates with armour rep drones for that.
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.17 02:30:00 -
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I suggest you sell it to someone who knows what they're doing, and use the isk to buy a Brutix AND a Dominix AND a Myrmidon and all their fittings.
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Segmentor
Hunters Agency
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.17 02:32:00 -
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Switch a nos out for a medium rep if you want to keep it this way.
Vigilant? Well ok, that would be good enough because of its DPS. Gank all you want untill your hp is gone. Here though, it won't work because 2x light neuts and 5 medium drones aint much dps.
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Kaand
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Posted - 2006.12.17 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Apprehentive
Edited by: Apprehentive on 17/12/2006 02:29:27
But really, against a blasterboat, your armor will go down like butter. Even with that 800mm plate.
If this is supposed to be a passive armor tank, at least use a 1600mm plate.
So what should I drop to be able to fit the 1600 plate then?
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Kaand
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Posted - 2006.12.17 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Segmentor
Switch a nos out for a medium rep if you want to keep it this way.
Vigilant? Well ok, that would be good enough because of its DPS. Gank all you want untill your hp is gone. Here though, it won't work because 2x light neuts and 5 medium drones aint much dps.
Fair point, I have corp mates who will be kicking out most the dps this setup is more to hold them there long enough.
I do agree it needs a 1600 plate u just dont have much to play with even with a reactorII when u fit the bigger plate, where the thorax/Vigi u can at drop down to smaller guns with little drop in dps.
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Kaand
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Posted - 2006.12.17 02:47:00 -
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How about:
2 x Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
3 x Light Ion Blaster II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Fits with 0.1 Pwr grid left!
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Justice Bringer
Minmatar
United Univers
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Posted - 2006.12.17 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kaand
Well have no pwr grid for a medium repper and a small one is just a waste of a low slot, ir ur called primary ur dead anyway.
Its called passive tanking!, flown a Vigilant like it for ages (with a 1600 plate), should still take a while to chew through the armour. Dont see the point in peeps fitting a small repper for repairing after fight, got corp mates with armour rep drones for that.
Dude,
I said dude....!!
What are you planning on doing with this ship??? 
Did you check the description before you used Quick Fit??
5% Bonus to med hybrid turret and you're planning on fitting 2 small guns and 3 med nos?
Seriously what you should consider doing is playing to its strengths and fitting some medium guns at least so that you can maximise your damage output.
With only 100m3 drone space that means 10 medium drones which should be enough, but this isn't an Ishtar.
My current setup is:
High: 4 x Dual 150 II, small neutraliser II
Med: AB II, Cap Booster II, Webber/scrambler
Low: Med Repper II, Kin II, Therm II, 2 x Nano II, 400 Tungsten plate
Drones: 10 med, or a mixture or your choice.
If you've been flying a Vigilant around with only a 1600 plate then I can't see how you've maximised that ships potential either with it's bonus to medium hybrid turrets.
This is an expensive ship just to fit a "passive" tank on. A Brutix would serve you far better in this respect as it can take a hammering and still dish out massive damage.
You said others will deal out the damage and you're there to tackle, so why not use a ship more suited to that role and use the Navy Vexor as a specialist damage dealer because that is what it is.
In any case it's your ship, so just have fun.
Justice 
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Kaand
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Posted - 2006.12.17 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Justice Bringer
Originally by: Kaand
Dude,
I said dude....!!
What are you planning on doing with this ship???
Did you check the description before you used Quick Fit??
5% Bonus to med hybrid turret and you're planning on fitting 2 small guns and 3 med nos?
Seriously what you should consider doing is playing to its strengths and fitting some medium guns at least so that you can maximise your damage output.
With only 100m3 drone space that means 10 medium drones which should be enough, but this isn't an Ishtar.
My current setup is:
High: 4 x Dual 150 II, small neutraliser II
Med: AB II, Cap Booster II, Webber/scrambler
Low: Med Repper II, Kin II, Therm II, 2 x Nano II, 400 Tungsten plate
Drones: 10 med, or a mixture or your choice.
If you've been flying a Vigilant around with only a 1600 plate then I can't see how you've maximised that ships potential either with it's bonus to medium hybrid turrets.
This is an expensive ship just to fit a "passive" tank on. A Brutix would serve you far better in this respect as it can take a hammering and still dish out massive damage.
You said others will deal out the damage and you're there to tackle, so why not use a ship more suited to that role and use the Navy Vexor as a specialist damage dealer because that is what it is.
In any case it's your ship, so just have fun.
Justice
Thank you all for your input on this, its exactly the kind of advice I was looking for. I wanted to focus on nossing and tank which the Myro does so so much better.
My rail skills are not too hot so if I use:
5 x Heavy Electron Blaster II [200xVoid M]
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I
Faint Warp Prohibitor I
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Medium Armor Repairer II
Reactor Control Unit II
Energized Reactive Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
With 5 x Hammer II's this setup comes in at 420dps ( which is hardly off the scale! )
Which makes this ship look like a Brutix but with not as good dps or tank. Im beginning to relise that this ship cannot fit a good tank with anything usefull.
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Kyozoku
Loot
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Posted - 2006.12.17 11:39:00 -
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Nos are pointless if you aren't using a rep. Use neuts instead.
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.17 11:44:00 -
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if ur gonna go nos setup then why passive tank. ur wasting all that cap by not repping. use 800 plate and medium rep or 1600 plate and small rep in my opinion. or just sell it cos tbh with ships like that if u don't faction fit them or use ewar then a brutix fit properly will roast u easily for a fraction of the price.
DE
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Per Kopfhurer
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.17 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Segmentor
Switch a nos out for a medium rep if you want to keep it this way.
Vigilant? Well ok, that would be good enough because of its DPS. Gank all you want untill your hp is gone. Here though, it won't work because 2x light neuts and 5 medium drones aint much dps.
"5 medium drones aint much dps".
I don't know what kind of medium drones you use, but mine dish out serious "ownage". 5 t1 hammerheads would come in at 144 dps against structure. And i've not got gallente cruiser V.
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Omega Bloodstone
Battlestars
Imperium Alliance |
DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.17 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Per Kopfhurer
Originally by: Segmentor
Switch a nos out for a medium rep if you want to keep it this way.
Vigilant? Well ok, that would be good enough because of its DPS. Gank all you want untill your hp is gone. Here though, it won't work because 2x light neuts and 5 medium drones aint much dps.
"5 medium drones aint much dps".
I don't know what kind of medium drones you use, but mine dish out serious "ownage". 5 t1 hammerheads would come in at 144 dps against structure. And i've not got gallente cruiser V.
144dps with no resists? woooooooot! pwnage! 
DE
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Per Kopfhurer
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.17 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Per Kopfhurer
Originally by: Segmentor
Switch a nos out for a medium rep if you want to keep it this way.
Vigilant? Well ok, that would be good enough because of its DPS. Gank all you want untill your hp is gone. Here though, it won't work because 2x light neuts and 5 medium drones aint much dps.
"5 medium drones aint much dps".
I don't know what kind of medium drones you use, but mine dish out serious "ownage". 5 t1 hammerheads would come in at 144 dps against structure. And i've not got gallente cruiser V.
144dps with no resists? woooooooot! pwnage!
DE
Riiiiiight. I stand corrected. I'll get me coat.
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Omega Bloodstone
Battlestars
Imperium Alliance |
Sonreir
Gallente
Band of Builders Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.17 12:11:00 -
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Try this setup:
2x Medium NOS
3x 150mm Rails (or dual 150mm if you have the grid left)
1x 20K Scram
1x Sensor Booster
1x Tracking Disruptor or Web
1x MAR
2x EANM
1x Energized Reactive Membrane
1x Dmg Control
1x 800mm Plate
Drone bay should be 3x Berserkers and 2x Hammerheads (100m3 on Navy Vexor, right?)
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kublai
Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.12.17 12:26:00 -
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Being the thorax/vexor god I am, and being someone who solo pirates in both a vigilant and navy vexor I am quite the god on the subject (modesty is so out of style).
I wont give away any setups, but i'll tell you this much, double-rep vexor roar.
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Kaand
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Posted - 2006.12.17 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: kublai
Being the thorax/vexor god I am, and being someone who solo pirates in both a vigilant and navy vexor I am quite the god on the subject (modesty is so out of style).
I wont give away any setups, but i'll tell you this much, double-rep vexor roar.
Never thought about double repping it! 
I am a fan of double reps use them for Brutix, Domi and Myro.
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Faint Warp Prohibitor I
Reactor Control Unit II
2 x Shadow Serpentis Med Rep (T2 repairing with T1 named fitting or use 2xAccom)
Energized Reactive Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Internal Force Field DCU
This setup does what I originally wanted it to do NOS and tank 
Thanks Kublai!
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.17 17:05:00 -
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now that setup looks more like it that u just posted. should be a fun ship
DE
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