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Beryllium
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.18 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Beryllium on 18/12/2006 05:05:09 Edited by: Beryllium on 18/12/2006 05:00:52 Assuming relevant skills at 5, command ships at least 4.
Post your thoughts, even if it's just OMGWTFPWN!
Eos:
Highs: 4x Med Diminishing Nos 1x Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense
Meds: 5x Large Shield Extender II
Lows: 2x Explosive Hardener II 2x Energized adaptive nano membrane II 1x Medium Armor Repper II
Drone Bay: 10x Heavy Drone
You wind up with about 19 thousand shields and some wicked armor resists. Use the drones for damage. Works like a REALLY, REALLY tough NosDomi.
This seems like an unbelieveably powerful setup, and if you switch out the t2 stuff for faction or officer gear, it becomes even more insane.
Thoughts?
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Ariel Dawn
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.12.18 04:53:00 -
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How would you deal with a frigate orbiting outside your NOS range going faster than your heavies can keep up with? He's not going to break you of course, but he can hold you 'till a battleship blob comes to tear you a new one. Disregard this if your setup is fer gangs or you forgot to include a set of light drones of course.
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Beryllium
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.18 04:54:00 -
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Edited by: Beryllium on 18/12/2006 04:54:38 The lack of tackle gear kind of indicates this is for a gang. 
I suppose I should've mentioned that, though.
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Ras Blumin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.18 05:10:00 -
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Edited by: Ras Blumin on 18/12/2006 05:10:45 Not funny.
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Fallen Paradox
Royal Logistics Service
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Posted - 2006.12.18 05:12:00 -
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I'm a tad new to shield tanking but, correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't that mean recovering like 20shields/second? There is no signature. |

Beryllium
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.18 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ras Blumin Edited by: Ras Blumin on 18/12/2006 05:10:45 Not funny.
Huh?
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hellwarrior
Caldari Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.12.18 05:17:00 -
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does it fit? umm okay, second off, 1 rep tank? 3rd off, you can't disrupt, web, or get in range.
its kind of a lol wtf pointless setup unless you are just there for bonuses which is kinda meh :/ might as well fit all pdus in your lows tbh lol
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Beryllium
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.18 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: hellwarrior does it fit? umm okay, second off, 1 rep tank? 3rd off, you can't disrupt, web, or get in range.
its kind of a lol wtf pointless setup unless you are just there for bonuses which is kinda meh :/ might as well fit all pdus in your lows tbh lol
According to quickfit, it does fit, and it's meant as a simply unkillable droneboat. You need a tackler of course. See the third post. 
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Beryllium
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.18 05:21:00 -
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As to your comment about a single rep tank, maybe drop an explosive hardener for another repper?
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2006.12.18 05:37:00 -
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I don't get it at all. Why are you fitting armor resists and an armor repper when you're a passive shield tanker? It's just a silly setup. Get rid of the armor crap and get shield tanking gear in the lows unless you want to get blown to hell. Or get the shield extenders out and get useful mids to help your armor tank.
Tanking both shields and armor at the same time is a recipe for disaster. Anyone with an Eos fitted for one or the other will tear you to shreds.
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Beryllium
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.18 05:43:00 -
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The point was to have a passive shield tank with an active armor tank behind it, and the HAC-like resists on both. Just a theoritical setup.
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Gor Kraon
Minmatar Shadowclan
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Posted - 2006.12.18 05:49:00 -
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I would change the lows to shield power relays or power diags. Keep the cap recharge high enough with relays and diags so you can actually warp around...
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Astrophobics
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Posted - 2006.12.18 06:01:00 -
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Ryysa
Total Failure
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Posted - 2006.12.18 06:24:00 -
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I can not decide what is more funny, the setup, or that he is actually serious about it.
All about target jamming |

Beryllium
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.18 06:27:00 -
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No, I'm not terribly serious about it.
--> THEORY <--
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Riho
Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolance
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Posted - 2006.12.18 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Beryllium Edited by: Beryllium on 18/12/2006 05:05:09 Edited by: Beryllium on 18/12/2006 05:00:52 Assuming relevant skills at 5, command ships at least 4.
Post your thoughts, even if it's just OMGWTFPWN!
Eos:
Highs: 4x Med Diminishing Nos 1x Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense
Meds: 5x Large Shield Extender II
Lows: 2x Explosive Hardener II 2x Energized adaptive nano membrane II 1x Medium Armor Repper II
Drone Bay: 10x Heavy Drone
You wind up with about 19 thousand shields and some wicked armor resists. Use the drones for damage. Works like a REALLY, REALLY tough NosDomi.
This seems like an unbelieveably powerful setup, and if you switch out the t2 stuff for faction or officer gear, it becomes even more insane.
Thoughts?
ok, i can kinda dig shield tank... but wtf.... u cant do enything whit this ship... why the nos if ur not useing the cap ? why not netus...ahh... why im even trying... its crap
use guns and armor tank and ull pwn... whit this ull die and ppl will laugh at ur idiocity(SP) u cant scram.. get in range... do enything ofencive really to enyone...4 med dimi nos arent going to hurt much cap on eny ship under cruisers.
waste of a good ship :D
fit blaster + mwd, scram, web, injector, and a good armor tank and use ur drones for more extra uber dmg
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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.18 07:11:00 -
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As bad as that setup is the scary thing is it would work on lvl 3 missions and perhaps a handful of lvl 4 missions. The Eos is really an underrated ship as it makes a great amour or shield tank. Though I donÆt recommend mixing the tanks it can work, just not as well as a pure tank.
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Beryllium
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.18 07:15:00 -
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I understand that mixed tanks are ****, this was a stab to see if one could be possible.
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Kashre
Minmatar Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.18 07:18:00 -
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man you guys at least have to give him points for thinking outside the box. Any nub can say "mwd, web, scram, inject, armor tank, listen to Brittany Spears, be like everyone else."
That said, it's a short range setup with no way to get close to anyone, it does seem like it would be better with neuts, and its a shield tank without hardened EM resists. Take out two mids and replace them with em hardeners and it would make a pretty nifty bait ship for baiting friggy swarms. :P
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Harotak
Legion of Lost Souls Ivy League
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Posted - 2006.12.18 07:22:00 -
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ROFL, awesome setup!
But how about an oddball setup with an insane shield tank that might work (assuming gang and no need for tackle)
HIGH whatever, but a mix of nos and neut would work well I guess you could also run about 5 or so blasters, but you are CPU limited here.
MID XL shield booster II shield boost amp II EM hardner II 2x invuln II
LOW 5x beta cap power relay
RIG 3x cap recharge rigs
This gives you over 100 cap per second with max skills (thats not counting the NOS!) and is more than enough to run the shield booster non stop for 120 shields a second
Quickfit lies about the shield boost penalty on CPRs, it's stacking nerfed, and the boost amp more than counters it.
This setup gives you 72em 79ex 92kn 79th resists, which means you can tank about 430em 570ex 1500kn or 570th damage per second.
Add crystal set / faction booster / faction boost amp to taste.
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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.18 07:42:00 -
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What about 1 microwarp, 3 T2 large extenders and 1 invul field. Low slots a full row of PDS T2.
Then some sort of mix blasters or energy destabilises and Nos.
You should end up with tons of hitpoints and your fast with decent resitance. No one expects an Eos to be shield tanked so 30% Em should be ok eveything else is over 50% more so if you take the shield gang assit that also fix's EM.
Passive shield tanking guide click here |

Kazaam
DemoN Of Morgoth
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Posted - 2006.12.18 08:24:00 -
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Edited by: Kazaam on 18/12/2006 08:26:21
Originally by: Pottsey What about 1 microwarp
You don't want a Fleet-CS to look like a Dread.
@others : Look at this setup like a light Carrier. Carrier doesn't fit EW, disruptors or such. It usual fits Nos/Tank/Cap Boostings mods. _________________________________________
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2006.12.18 08:53:00 -
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why bother with eos if you don't use her hybrid bonus? buy ishtar instead, it has bonus for drone damage and sig radius two times smaller that Eos's, plus more speed, which helps tanking alot.
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Glarion Garnier
Solar Wind
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Posted - 2006.12.18 09:09:00 -
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Are you ppl testing the boosters allready.
Extender tank with armor tank. (unkillable pleeease)
second even more stupid.
Shield tank with Cap power relays. (pleaaaase)
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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.18 10:23:00 -
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ôYou don't want a Fleet-CS to look like a Dread.ö Well it already has a large sig due the extenders any more sig is going have no impact for anything smaller then capital ships. You could always use 1 afterburner over 1 microwarp.
ôShield tank with Cap power relays. (pleaaaase)ö I agree PDS are much better as they also boost your shield HP regen as well as cap for that booster.
Passive shield tanking guide click here |

Litus Arowar
Amarr Obsidian Asylum Pure.
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Posted - 2006.12.18 10:43:00 -
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omg lol unkillable ftw yarr!
7x medium nos (diminishing or t2) 5x large shield extender 2 5x power diagnostic system 2
over 100 shield/sec recharge, over 21K shields, and a 35 cap/s regen, with another 42 cap/s from the 7 medium nos... that's 77cap/s you can't use
this build is awesome, someone post and tell me I rule!
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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.18 12:45:00 -
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ô7x medium nos (diminishing or t2) 5x large shield extender 2 5x power diagnostic system 2 this build is awesome, someone post and tell me I rule!ö One small change and it is very awesome and deadly in a gang. Change the Nos for energy destabilises.
This change means you drain 2.5 times more cap then Nos. Now perhaps fit 1 shield gang assist for 22.5% to all resistance and its a deadly ship. High hitpoints, good HP regen, good resistance and very high energy drain with good drone DPS.
Passive shield tanking guide click here |

wierchas noobhunter
Caldari Kemono.
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Posted - 2006.12.18 13:03:00 -
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doh give that ship for me i will put it in good use
i am WIERCHAS i am like UBER and stuff |

Ewa Quillam
Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2006.12.18 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey
This change means you drain 2.5 times more cap then Nos. Now perhaps fit 1 shield gang assist for 22.5% to all resistance and its a deadly ship.
Wouldn't that work only for a Vulture?
With AWU 5 u can pack all of this:
High: - 6 neutron blasters - 1 drone link augmentor
Med: - y-t8 mwd - medium injector - faint 20k scram - fleeting web - tracking disruptor
Low: - internal force field array - t2 armor explosive hardener - t2 eanm - 1 T2 mar - 1 named 150MW mar
Some cap rigs.
I'll fly one when I get the skills, but it looks scary on paper, no matter what u want to do with it. Thinking out of the box is not bad, but I don't think u need to do it for the Eos.
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Breed Love
FATAL REVELATIONS
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Posted - 2006.12.18 14:09:00 -
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You ppl are on *****. All of you .
Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!  
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Shinjuro
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.18 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Litus Arowar omg lol unkillable ftw yarr!
7x medium nos (diminishing or t2) 5x large shield extender 2 5x power diagnostic system 2
over 100 shield/sec recharge, over 21K shields, and a 35 cap/s regen, with another 42 cap/s from the 7 medium nos... that's 77cap/s you can't use
this build is awesome, someone post and tell me I rule!
Nope that is quite stupid tbh.
Tell me besides from sucking you enemy capless from inside 15km, why do you have 7 nos on a ship that in no way shape or form needs cap? Since you have occupied your midslots, you have no way of making range, therefore, if you are not very lucky and land right on top of someone, that setup is nearly worthless with the exception of a sick tank.
Who knows, maybe you want to have your enemy capless. There is this new thing called The Energy Neutralizer.. try it, it will make you lol @ your setup.
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente The Underground
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Posted - 2006.12.18 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Almasy on 18/12/2006 16:07:18 [High] 4x Medium Nosferatu II 3x Small Energy Neutralizer [Mid] 4x Large Shield Exstender II 1x Invulnerability Field II (can switch with a scrambler) [Low] 2x Energized Adaptive Nano membrane II 1x Energized Reactive Membrane II 1x Damage Control II 1x Medium Armor Repairer II ------------------------------------------------------- [shield regin/sec:47] [Armor regin/sec:48][Infiate cap] [Shield Resist: EM:38.75 TH:75.5 KN:90.81 EX:75.5] [Armor Resist: EM:80.04 TH:83.78 KN:91.89 EX:72.73] -------------------------------------------------------- This is befor adding in all the special implants you can use, no boosters or rigs. How is this for a dual tank? -------------------------------------------------------- You can change high to: 1x Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I 1x Medium Nosferatu II 5x Heavy Ion Blaster II ------------------------------------------------------- With antimatter it does about 250 and with void it is about 310dps.
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Horza Otho
Minmatar Silver Star Federation Kurai Komichi
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Posted - 2006.12.18 15:52:00 -
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absolute **** --- Eris Discordia is miiiiiine |

Vincent Almasy
Gallente The Underground
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:17:00 -
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what's wrong with it?
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Breed Love
FATAL REVELATIONS
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:38:00 -
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OP and Vincent Almasy both deserve to be podded repeatedly till they have no skills for coming up with horrible setups like that .
Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!  
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Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey This change means you drain 2.5 times more cap then Nos. Now perhaps fit 1 shield gang assist for 22.5% to all resistance and its a deadly ship. High hitpoints, good HP regen, good resistance and very high energy drain with good drone DPS.
You and your "I have all the specialists at 5"-ness... --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |

Vincent Almasy
Gallente The Underground
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Breed Love OP and Vincent Almasy both deserve to be podded repeatedly till they have no skills for coming up with horrible setups like that .
If you didn't notice this was for out of the box ideas. The idea of mix tanking this foolharty at best but it is still the topic, don't be negitive and just put in your own idea and try to make the best of them, simple as that, key is having fun and thinking up something new.
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Peter Stuyvesant
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.18 16:57:00 -
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Reminds me of Kuso's setup
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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.18 17:31:00 -
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ôwhat's wrong with it?ö Mixed tanks always end up worse then pure tanks of one type. Its fun fro low level PvE missons but its not something you can do in PvP without giving your self a large disadvantage.
As long as your aware mixed tanks are a lot weaker then single tanks thereÆs nothing wrong with using one for a bit of fun.
A lot of people on here donÆt like it when people use fun but sub standard setups. But if you do manage to kill someone make sure they know your setup.
Passive shield tanking guide click here |

Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.18 18:27:00 -
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dude guys he's in pirate coalition you got to cut him some slack here
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Talasan
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.12.18 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Talasan on 18/12/2006 18:30:04 pirate coalition never fail to amaze me sometimes
shield/armor, one or the other bud, hell rage torps will tear you apart with a sig rad those extenders will give you
go for the armor tank, with mwd/tackling and stick at least 5 lights in that bay for heavens sake :P "minmatar got the shaft again? sure ill bend over right away" |

ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2006.12.18 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Shinjuro
Originally by: Litus Arowar that's 77cap/s you can't use
this build is awesome, someone post and tell me I rule!
Nope that is quite stupid tbh.
Tell me besides from sucking you enemy capless from inside 15km, why do you have 7 nos on a ship that in no way shape or form needs cap? Since you have occupied your midslots, you have no way of making range, therefore, if you are not very lucky and land right on top of someone, that setup is nearly worthless with the exception of a sick tank.
Who knows, maybe you want to have your enemy capless. There is this new thing called The Energy Neutralizer.. try it, it will make you lol @ your setup.
I've bolded a part of the post you quoted to show you it's a joke.
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Crellion
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.18 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey What about 1 microwarp, 3 T2 large extenders and 1 invul field. Low slots a full row of PDS T2.
Then some sort of mix blasters or energy destabilises and Nos.
You should end up with tons of hitpoints and your fast with decent resitance. No one expects an Eos to be shield tanked so 30% Em should be ok eveything else is over 50% more so if you take the shield gang assit that also fix's EM.
No one expects an EOS to be shield tanked indeed... but that doesnt mean the Geddons wont bother activating their lasers and 2 volleying your tank... people then will assume you logged in combat and proceed to smuck you in local  Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |

Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2006.12.18 20:16:00 -
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ôNo one expects an EOS to be shield tanked indeed... but that doesnt mean the Geddons wont bother activating their lasers and 2 volleying your tank...ö Can 2 Geddons do over 40k in 2 volleys? Very roughly thatÆs how much it would take to knock the shields down on EM and thatÆs not counting shield HP regen.
That and if two Geddons do 40k in 2 volleys surely you going die with pretty much any tank.
Passive shield tanking guide click here |

wierchas noobhunter
Caldari Kemono.
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Posted - 2006.12.18 20:20:00 -
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eos can be realy good shield tanker and with some creativity u can make some crazy and uber setup nos + shild tank + speed stuff anyone ?
i am WIERCHAS i am like UBER and stuff |

Litus Arowar
Amarr Obsidian Asylum Pure.
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Posted - 2006.12.18 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch
Originally by: Shinjuro
Originally by: Litus Arowar that's 77cap/s you can't use
this build is awesome, someone post and tell me I rule!
Nope that is quite stupid tbh.
Tell me besides from sucking you enemy capless from inside 15km, why do you have 7 nos on a ship that in no way shape or form needs cap? Since you have occupied your midslots, you have no way of making range, therefore, if you are not very lucky and land right on top of someone, that setup is nearly worthless with the exception of a sick tank.
Who knows, maybe you want to have your enemy capless. There is this new thing called The Energy Neutralizer.. try it, it will make you lol @ your setup.
I've bolded a part of the post you quoted to show you it's a joke.
indeed... I'm not sure why he took me seriously, though I guess with threads like this it's hard to tell fact from fiction...
Albert Anastacia> Like they say, adapt or die. I adapted and now I get to Iwinbutton all over everyones face. |
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