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Starbuck05
Warmongering Space Invaders Criminal Intentions.
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Posted - 2015.09.14 12:04:02 -
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Hello ,
For all intence and purpoises this is a serious thread but if you must troll then make it good .
I've been playing eve since 08 , for some its not alot , for others like myself its a decently long time , and i've been Recruitment Officer in most corps that i've been with and actually gave 2 cents about them .
The problem that I , personaly , am seeing is that recruitment has gotten very very slow recently ..
I never was much of a fan of the whole "eve is dying " fad and concept because , sure , things change , people get bored and they move on , some folks take longer breaks .. so on and so forth ... but now im actually starting to think the NR's have gotten reduced ... i would say alot but i can't be certain .
A couple of years ago if i was gonna recruit people for my corp i would have had atleast 1-2 possible members that wanted ot join on a daily basis ... now , its been a week and .. i think i got just 1 dude ? and to be fair the corp i am in is a low sec pvp corp with decent kb stats and decent activity in our time zone and even if you take in to account the high competition it still wouldnt put us so much at a dissatvantage .
Before that i was part of a WH corp within an alliance in a C4 ( good stuff ) and recruitment was still bad .
So all in all i guess im coming here cause im just curious about somethings , some facts .... Are people rushing towards Null even though most complain FozzieSov is bad ? Are people rushing back to High sec or quit altogether cause they don't look where eve is going ? or is it somethin else ....
Cause from where i'm standing .. and this is my oppinion , Low Sec is one of the better places to be right now , if you're looking for good fights and good pvp .
Just because i am blond does not make me stoooopid !
Warmongering space Invaders PvP corp looking for pilots ( Low Sec )
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Ima GoodGirl
Black Ballers
89
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Posted - 2015.09.14 12:09:55 -
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intence and purpoises, is that:
incense and porpoises?
or
or intents and purposes? |

Conrin
Elucidated Brethren of the Ebon Knights
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Posted - 2015.09.14 12:18:22 -
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Ima GoodGirl wrote:intence and purpoises, is that:
incense and porpoises?
or
or intents and purposes?
::golf clap:: beat me to it. I was going to go with insensitive porpoises.
got to first line and no further. Cant take anything poster says seriously now. |

Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
299
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Posted - 2015.09.14 12:21:41 -
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We here at new order logistics recruitment are going from strength to strength.
This must be where all the cool kids are going. |

Starbuck05
Warmongering Space Invaders Criminal Intentions.
317
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Posted - 2015.09.14 12:38:16 -
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Sorry my english skills are a work in progress :P not my first language .
And yea prolly Code is where "allllllll the cool kids "are going ..
Just because i am blond does not make me stoooopid !
Warmongering space Invaders PvP corp looking for pilots ( Low Sec )
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Elinara Yamamoto
Latex Entosis
0
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Posted - 2015.09.14 12:44:03 -
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I have seen massive influxes of new players in Nullsec.
But as the Code guy said, there is some truth, even I have a highsec ganking alt! But Nullsec is where its at largely |

Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
1640
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Posted - 2015.09.14 13:20:21 -
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Go to reddit. Flair up. Post memes and some Obvious As Day opinions and insights that everybody already agrees with. Sign up with "x is recruiting". |

Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
234
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Posted - 2015.09.14 13:48:37 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Go to reddit. Flair up. Post memes and some Obvious As Day opinions and insights that everybody already agrees with. Sign off with "x is recruiting".
^
That man is wise, listen to his advice.
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
1048
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:03:04 -
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there are too many corps anyways, everyone thinks its essentially important to create his own corp.
If you cant get enough people for your own, join existing one - its obviously a self regulatory process. |

Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic Space Warriors
858
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:10:08 -
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sadly there is better space ship games with better features so no wonder most have gone. |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
1048
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Posted - 2015.09.14 14:12:28 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:sadly there is better space ship games with better features so no wonder most have gone.
which are those namely? I checked all of available ones but havent found a better one. |

Aladar Dangerface
13. Enigma Project
239
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Posted - 2015.09.14 15:55:45 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:sadly there is better space ship games with better features so no wonder most have gone. which are those namely? I checked all of available ones but havent found a better one. I bet he means star citizen............................................................Yup, he's gotta mean star citizen 
I don't need twitter.
I'm already following you.
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ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
68
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Posted - 2015.09.14 16:01:00 -
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too many corps too many alliances offering the same thing... recruitment is terribly painful unless you're the big alliances. |

Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
734
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Posted - 2015.09.14 17:26:31 -
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Aladar Dangerface wrote:Robert Caldera wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:sadly there is better space ship games with better features so no wonder most have gone. which are those namely? I checked all of available ones but havent found a better one. I bet he means star citizen............................................................Yup, he's gotta mean star citizen  Could be, but he said "better space ship games", games, plural, even the imaginary game in his head only counts as one game  |

Belesia Velorea
The Fiendish Pixies
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Posted - 2015.09.14 17:37:53 -
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Not sure how all these things apply to the normal recruitment channels you are using but there's a few things that spring to mind.
Your KB looks like you live in MIn/Ama lowsec space which in and of itself might slow down recruitment though i'm sure that just comes with the turf. Less population and interest in the area is bound to affect your prospective interest. Your ingame corp add says you are new pilot friendly but then stipulates a 15mil sp minimum, that's the best part of a whole year skill training. It also asks for chat on Ts and the requierment of being on ts and fleeted whenever you play.
I'm not saying anything there is bad but there's a lot of pitfalls to filter out vast amounts of potentially good recruits. Perhaps you should look at slacking off on some of them. Just a thought. It's worth mentioning that I have no experience in recruitment at all so it's just my lil opinion. |

Salvos Rhoska
1446
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Posted - 2015.09.14 17:51:21 -
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Belesia Velorea wrote:Your ingame corp add says you are new pilot friendly but then stipulates a 15mil sp minimum, that's the best part of a whole year skill training.
Well spotted.
And typical of the kind of "catch-all-be-all" self-contradictory corp recruitment texts that dont help anybody.
Trying to be too many things at once is not good.
PvE v PvP
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
23026
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Posted - 2015.09.14 17:57:26 -
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OP, if I can have alliance director roles, I can help with your recruiting efforts.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
9513
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Posted - 2015.09.14 18:09:12 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Belesia Velorea wrote:Your ingame corp add says you are new pilot friendly but then stipulates a 15mil sp minimum, that's the best part of a whole year skill training. Well spotted. And typical of the kind of "catch-all-be-all" self-contradictory corp recruitment texts that dont help anybody. Trying to be too many things at once is not good.
Isn't 15 mil still considered small amount in EVE?
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Salvos Rhoska
1446
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Posted - 2015.09.14 18:27:43 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Belesia Velorea wrote:Your ingame corp add says you are new pilot friendly but then stipulates a 15mil sp minimum, that's the best part of a whole year skill training. Well spotted. And typical of the kind of "catch-all-be-all" self-contradictory corp recruitment texts that dont help anybody. Trying to be too many things at once is not good. Isn't 15 mil still considered small amount in EVE?
Small, yes. Sort of.
Averagr across the board is 30mil (http://eveboard.com/statistics).
New, no.
PvE v PvP
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3199
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Posted - 2015.09.14 18:55:17 -
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What about porpoises? |

DaReaper
Net 7
2560
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Posted - 2015.09.14 18:58:30 -
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less people on line, means recruitment will be slower. It goes hand in hand.
/thread
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
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Salvos Rhoska
1446
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Posted - 2015.09.14 19:00:13 -
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Cant /thread your own post.
You millenial or something?
PvE v PvP
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
465
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Posted - 2015.09.14 19:58:11 -
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Belesia Velorea wrote:Not sure how all these things apply to the normal recruitment channels you are using but there's a few things that spring to mind.
Your KB looks like you live in MIn/Ama lowsec space which in and of itself might slow down recruitment though i'm sure that just comes with the turf. Less population and interest in the area is bound to affect your prospective interest. Your ingame corp add says you are new pilot friendly but then stipulates a 15mil sp minimum, that's the best part of a whole year skill training. It also asks for chat on Ts and the requierment of being on ts and fleeted whenever you play.
I'm not saying anything there is bad but there's a lot of pitfalls to filter out vast amounts of potentially good recruits. Perhaps you should look at slacking off on some of them. Just a thought. It's worth mentioning that I have no experience in recruitment at all so it's just my lil opinion. I joined my first corp with 2 Million SP. I moved to Curse in Null and really didn't know what I was doing. But I had a blast and I contributed where I could. When someone wanted a Cyno lit up so they could jump, I'd volunteer, hop in a Kestral and fly out 15 jumps or whatever was required. Even now I'm not very good at PVP and back then in fleet fights, I volunteered to Remote repair folks and spent my time in the fight shadowing the FC and keeping him recharged. I didn't care about my own KB stats but only cared about the team. Now to try to get in a Corp is just so much hassle I can't be bothered. Filling out forms, providing API, getting grilled with crazy questions. Everyone thinks your a spy, etc. I just wanna play ya know??? |

Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
647
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Posted - 2015.09.15 00:32:37 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Belesia Velorea wrote:Your ingame corp add says you are new pilot friendly but then stipulates a 15mil sp minimum, that's the best part of a whole year skill training. Well spotted. And typical of the kind of "catch-all-be-all" self-contradictory corp recruitment texts that dont help anybody. Trying to be too many things at once is not good. Isn't 15 mil still considered small amount in EVE? Small, yes. Sort of. Average across the board is 30mil (http://eveboard.com/statistics). (Note, this "average" has all kinds of statistical problems. Doesnt mean the "average" capsuleer hss 30mil, it merely means the average between the highs and the lows, is 30mil, from a huge distribution). New, no. I wouldnt call anyone who has played for 12months+, as new.
Perhaps this where eve is headed - devs want to increase base SP of new players to help them play the game faster. We might be seeing 5mil sp as being a starting point.
The average is of course dragged down artificially by jita alts with 60k sp
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Marsella Mashamura
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.09.15 01:04:20 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:Belesia Velorea wrote:Not sure how all these things apply to the normal recruitment channels you are using but there's a few things that spring to mind.
Your KB looks like you live in MIn/Ama lowsec space which in and of itself might slow down recruitment though i'm sure that just comes with the turf. Less population and interest in the area is bound to affect your prospective interest. Your ingame corp add says you are new pilot friendly but then stipulates a 15mil sp minimum, that's the best part of a whole year skill training. It also asks for chat on Ts and the requierment of being on ts and fleeted whenever you play.
I'm not saying anything there is bad but there's a lot of pitfalls to filter out vast amounts of potentially good recruits. Perhaps you should look at slacking off on some of them. Just a thought. It's worth mentioning that I have no experience in recruitment at all so it's just my lil opinion. I joined my first corp with 2 Million SP. I moved to Curse in Null and really didn't know what I was doing. But I had a blast and I contributed where I could. When someone wanted a Cyno lit up so they could jump, I'd volunteer, hop in a Kestral and fly out 15 jumps or whatever was required. Even now I'm not very good at PVP and back then in fleet fights, I volunteered to Remote repair folks and spent my time in the fight shadowing the FC and keeping him recharged. I didn't care about my own KB stats but only cared about the team. Now to try to get in a Corp is just so much hassle I can't be bothered. Filling out forms, providing API, getting grilled with crazy questions. Everyone thinks your a spy, etc. I just wanna play ya know???
Has it really gotten that bad? It's like applying for a job at a major corporation. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
13943
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Posted - 2015.09.15 01:09:32 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:I never was much of a fan of the whole "eve is dying " fad and concept because , sure , things change , people get bored and they move on , some folks take longer breaks .. so on and so forth ... but now im actually starting to think the NR's have gotten reduced ... i would say alot but i can't be certain . Umm lets see... lowsec pirate corp (under a month old?) with 19 characters (however many alts that is), req pvp exp with 15m sp min, in a one corp alliance? EVE is DyingGäó? And saying/suggesting that probably doesn't help either...  Maybe drop your ambitions of building an alliance and join an existing one?
I'm in it for the money
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
1018
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Posted - 2015.09.15 01:17:17 -
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My corporation will solve that with membership levels. The basic member is literally an unmanaged freelancer that can utilize corp facilities with slightly better access than non members, and has almost no joining restrictions. I'd be perfectly fine having ten thousand 'citizens'. The actual corp functions will have different requirements, many with similar requirements to other corporations.
We'll operate a variety of divisions that will be tightly managed, possibly including being insulated from the 'citizen' members.
We haven't started recruitment yet, but the idea is that many people can treat it like an NPC corp for the social aspects, but still have the benefits of a player corp.
I'm fully aware of the possible conflicting players elements this might bring out, up to and including members who pirate flying under the same banner as carebear miners.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
I invented Tiericide
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Verstal
Incredibuilders United
79
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Posted - 2015.09.15 01:36:53 -
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Eve is for a very specific personality type cold calculating killers that are very resilient. One of my favorite players before he left is a Navy Seal a lot of x military play Eve.
I keep trying to get new players to try Eve but all the ones lately run screaming they cant play for more then 2 hours at most a night and too many choices, also they just hated the game to the point that I cant even bring up anymore.
US TZ fell below 18k last night. Like many people have stated no players no recruitment. |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1693
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Posted - 2015.09.15 01:51:33 -
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eh lowsec pirate corp that I've never heard of can't recruit people. doesn't really seem like proof of anything to me. more willing to accept things like low pcu, npcs killed per day, players killed per day, jita population, or maybe market volume of specific goods?
@ChainsawPlankto
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Patrick Omaristos
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.09.15 02:58:43 -
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I don't know how to explain my opinion on this matter properly, suffice to say it perturbs my interest greatly in a good way.
The subject is one that if CCP pays attention to and is reactive on, it could help improve/prolong the Eve experience for all new/returning players to the game.
While I have a firm idea of the direction I wish to head this time, many who are new no doubt have issues joining in with the style and behavior of the Eve Community. It definitely is a unique one. They may feel that crossing the bridge is too demanding or late for them, hence they give up or just don't even bother starting the journey. |
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