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kieron
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Posted - 2006.12.18 17:29:00 -
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From the new accouncement posted in the Player News Center:
In conjunction with Harris Interactive, CCP will be holding an e-mail survey for past and present US community members from the dates of 20 December through 4 January. This survey will cover a broad range of topic, including questions concerning playstyle, how participants heard of EVE, what games participants are looking forward to, etc.
Please note: No account or billing information will be asked for in this survey, but participation will require visiting the Harris Interactive website via a link provided in the e-mail.
As with any e-mail solicitation, please exersize caution when visiting any links or requests for information.
If you have any questions, please post them in this thread.
kieron
Community Manager,
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ZaKma
The Scope
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Posted - 2006.12.18 18:12:00 -
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And why only the US community?
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Takahashi Arran
coracao ardente
Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.12.18 19:30:00 -
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as this is all they will have paid for presumably
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Roshan longshot
Gallente
Ordos Humanitas
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Posted - 2006.12.18 20:13:00 -
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Oh...you pvp'er have had it now! US people like pve games! "Quick maw get the shotgun!"
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box.
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JForce
N.W.A
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Posted - 2006.12.18 23:17:00 -
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I can't see how the limitations can be a money thing, as an online survey works on economies of scale. It would be just as easy to do all Eve players.
This suggests a targetting of th U.S. market. If the survey did not include "playstyle" I wouldn't mind.
However this now suggests that Eve development direction is driven by the biggest potential market, rather than by ALL players.
No dumbing-down of Eve? We'll see.... |
Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2006.12.19 07:44:00 -
[6]
 Originally by: JForce
I can't see how the limitations can be a money thing, as an online survey works on economies of scale. It would be just as easy to do all Eve players.
This suggests a targetting of th U.S. market. If the survey did not include "playstyle" I wouldn't mind.
However this now suggests that Eve development direction is driven by the biggest potential market, rather than by ALL players.
No dumbing-down of Eve? We'll see....
Could it also mean that CCP will begin heavy advertising in USA? Perhaps thats the reason for the survey? Maybe we will see the EVE movies/adverts on SciFI and Vid.Game Channels.
My guess it is just the thoughts of expanding further, you must admit that EVE is heavily dominated by the European player base.
This sounds like a good business descision, but, I still am worried a little bit. Since WOW is too bloody popular in USA and the City Of Heroes and City of Villains, and those are all "baby" games. Dont want EVE turning into something like that, where there is no real risk involved.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.19 09:56:00 -
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Edited by: Venkul Mul on 19/12/2006 09:57:22
While I would like a general survey, with results sorted by country, I have a high hopes that EVE will never become too easy.
The fusion with White Wolf is a good indicator that even on the USA market that isn't the probable market strategy, as WW has based his success in the RPG field primary on games for a mature audience, capable of accepting losses and hardships for the playing character.
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insanebe
Caldari
soni Corp
Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2006.12.19 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: insanebe on 19/12/2006 14:48:10
europe has a population of 710 million people (thats europe not the E.U which is 500 million) so to find the game populated with lots of europeans shouldn't be that suprising however i actually believe that the number of non europe countries is higher than people realise... and is due to different time zones
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Keikko Aranata
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.19 14:59:00 -
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Looking forward to the email survey link. I'm US-based, so any concerned EU denizens can send me ISK to assuage concerns.
Have a nice day!
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Pantheon Lea
Farmer Boyz
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Posted - 2006.12.19 19:59:00 -
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A third Shard is in the oven ?
Pantheon Lea
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Nate D
Naughty Ambitious Temptatious Endeavours
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:06:00 -
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yeah no one really knows of EVE here in the US... I hope CCP does start advertising here...
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Dal Thrax
Caldari
House Of Troy
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Posted - 2006.12.19 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Dal Thrax on 19/12/2006 23:21:22
Originally by: Jinx Barker
Originally by: JForce
I can't see how the limitations can be a money thing, as an online survey works on economies of scale. It would be just as easy to do all Eve players.
This suggests a targetting of th U.S. market. If the survey did not include "playstyle" I wouldn't mind.
However this now suggests that Eve development direction is driven by the biggest potential market, rather than by ALL players.
No dumbing-down of Eve? We'll see....
Could it also mean that CCP will begin heavy advertising in USA? Perhaps thats the reason for the survey? Maybe we will see the EVE movies/adverts on SciFI and Vid.Game Channels.
My guess it is just the thoughts of expanding further, you must admit that EVE is heavily dominated by the European player base.
This sounds like a good business descision, but, I still am worried a little bit. Since WOW is too bloody popular in USA and the City Of Heroes and City of Villains, and those are all "baby" games. Dont want EVE turning into something like that, where there is no real risk involved.
If EVE ever got WoW's 7 million subscribers CCP would be very, very happy. CCP just purchases White Wolf Games, an American company. If nothing else they need a better idea of what American gamers want for the NEW game. That and WWGS is going to release an EvE PnP sometime next year (probably). Means more US exposure soon. On the other hand it also means that a backlash against EvE could hurt WWGS core products.
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Jirikki
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Posted - 2006.12.20 08:28:00 -
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I'm a US EVE player and I didn't get any email about this survey. Was I supposed to get it by now? Do I have to do something special to get it?
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Dal Thrax
Caldari
House Of Troy
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Posted - 2006.12.21 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jirikki
I'm a US EVE player and I didn't get any email about this survey. Was I supposed to get it by now? Do I have to do something special to get it?
Same here, no E-mail. Has anybody gotten theirs yet? Maybe the poll starts at midnight (or is this a random sampling)?
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M3ta
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.21 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
a broad range of topic
So the "broad range" is only one topic?
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loose != lose
you're != your
it's != its (CCP, fix Moa description)
they're != there != their
hanger != hangar
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Celestiana
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.21 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jirikki
I'm a US EVE player and I didn't get any email about this survey. Was I supposed to get it by now? Do I have to do something special to get it?
I got mine this morning...
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Kroy
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.21 20:05:00 -
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They coudl be targeting the US because Privacy laws are really slack there. They can't get away with so much in the EU, though that depends on what was agreed to during sign up... speaking of which... where is the privacy policy for Eve?
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Nullity
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.21 20:54:00 -
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When asked what board games EVE players like playing, the results were pretty much as I expected. Monopoly was in the lead with 62.2% followed by Chess with 57.6%. Interesting poll, overall. I wonder what will come of it.
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Kerushi
Caldari
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.21 20:55:00 -
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no offense but i`m not in the US, neither did i gave u guys permission to give out my email addy as i`m now f`ing subscribed to some f`ing "survey" company`s database
Originally by: spam mail
How can I unsubscribe?
If you prefer not to receive any more emails regarding
this study, please send an email to:
[email protected]
and write "Unsubscribe" in the subject line.
this was my most private email wich is only used in sensative payed stuff as it also contains my name
ty f`ing very much 
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Kerushi
Caldari
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.21 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kerushi on 21/12/2006 21:40:35
brilliant, not even getting an unsubscribe confirmation
not even my goddamn customers get this email addy or friends with their spam jokes
get my email removed out of their database plz, u put it there, get it out kthxbye
edit: a nice quote from the EULA
Quote:
B. Personal Information
CCP does not guarantee that personal information transmitted to the System, including without limitation information in your Account, will not be disclosed to third parties. While CCP's aim is to keep your personal information confidential and CCP employs security measures to protect the System, third parties may unlawfully intercept transmissions or private communications, or access data within the System. Additionally, CCP may (and you hereby expressly authorize CCP to) disclose information about you to private entities, law enforcement or other government officials, as CCP, in its sole discretion, deems necessary or appropriate to investigate or resolve possible crimes or to respond to judicial, regulatory, agency or similar inquiries.
`nuff said
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Voltaire Leriel
Minmatar
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.21 23:25:00 -
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Quote:
CCP does not guarantee that personal information transmitted to the System, including without limitation information in your Account, will not be disclosed to third parties.
You've read it wrong kerushi, its a confusing sentence with alot of negatives, but it is saying essentially:
CCP does not garantee that personal info <snip> will not be disclosed to third parties.
They DON'T garantee that they WON'T disclose info.
Meaning that they can if they want to.
It's a confusing sentence and i advise CCP to revise it and make it clearer, but CCP can do whatever it wants with your e-mail adress.
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Kerushi
Caldari
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.21 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Voltaire Leriel
Quote:
CCP does not guarantee that personal information transmitted to the System, including without limitation information in your Account, will not be disclosed to third parties.
You've read it wrong kerushi, its a confusing sentence with alot of negatives, but it is saying essentially:
CCP does not garantee that personal info <snip> will not be disclosed to third parties.
They DON'T garantee that they WON'T disclose info.
Meaning that they can if they want to.
It's a confusing sentence and i advise CCP to revise it and make it clearer, but CCP can do whatever it wants with your e-mail adress.
if that`s true, lets just give out every one`s info to every one
this clause is ment to protect our information from being given out, lets just remove it completly 
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Daniel Jackson
Caldari
Dark and Light inc.
D-L
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 22/12/2006 03:28:31
i got the mail WooT !!!
its was a very long survay like 2 houres long
but ya i also hope that EVE starts getting advertised in the USA on TV and etc cause no people u know of in real life plays the game :P
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Voltaire Leriel
Minmatar
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.22 04:10:00 -
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Yeah, I never met people IRL who played until i went to Fanfest '06 :D
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Dal Thrax
Caldari
House Of Troy
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Daniel Jackson
Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 22/12/2006 03:28:31
i got the mail WooT !!!
its was a very long survay like 2 houres long
but ya i also hope that EVE starts getting advertised in the USA on TV and etc cause no people u know of in real life plays the game :P
Still no E-mail here in either normal or bulk folders. Hum I'm at a yahoo email address, I wonder if for some reason Harris isn't sending to Yahoo and the like.
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TheFirstInquisitor
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Posted - 2006.12.22 12:55:00 -
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If I am reading it right, then CCP could be breaching some EU rules if it send out our mails. However, Iceland isn`t a part of the EU because of fishing quotas (this could change after yesterdays announcement but i didnt look into it too deeply) so may be exempt from this. Besides, if a USA playerbase starts to come in from mass advertising they will be inferior to the EU playerbase because they have 4 years of catchup and experience to work on. Are they planning on making an American server or just trying to take the fight to Blizzards stronghold?...
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Eskalin
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.22 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: Eskalin on 22/12/2006 13:56:28
I'm a us player and I'm kind of annoyed that i got this survey in my email i don't like spam and this is something i definitely see as spam. i understand if ccp was conducting a survey fine i wouldn't take it anyway but to give out my email i feel just a bit butt sore. well hope they paid well for it time to get a new email address spelling4tl
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Kourg
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Posted - 2006.12.22 14:48:00 -
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DANGER!!!! CCP, don't do this. Don't end up like SWG and SOE. This is a great game. Continue to develope the game with your own free creative minds and by being in touch with ALL of your players. EVE has made it this far with no help from bullsh*t marketing and focus group a-holes. There's no reason to turn down that dark, deseptive and gready road now.
"Easier to play" and "more actiony" will destroy this game. DON'T DO IT.
U.S. player by the way and by no means a great pvp'er, but I wouldn't dumb down a thing.
Please everyone who sees this reconize it for what it is. Don't take it lightly. Protest loadly, scream bloody murder.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.22 22:54:00 -
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I filled it out. I was kind of surprised by my answers tbh. I realized that I'm steadily playing Eve less and less. Why? Because of changes like Warp to 0km and probe nerfs reducing my opportunities to kill other players. in short, the game play changes have nerfed solo piracy a great deal and it's greatly affecting my game play. Quite lame.
And as for the guys commenting about US players liking only PVE: I'm in the US and I filled out my survey 100% pro PVP, and 100% anti PVE. So PVP votes are safe with US players  .
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Ductoris
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.12.23 01:25:00 -
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I just finished mine, note, if you fill it all out you can view the collective results, which are interesting....
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.12.23 12:11:00 -
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Handing over customer contact information to an US company. Yay!
US laws ftw:
Harris Interactive is allowed to do whatever they want with the information they collect regardless of the contract ccp did strike with them. The invitation to the poll comes from Harris Interactive and the customers hand out the information based on that invitation.
I just hope ccp got a good amount of USD out of that stunt.
Happy holiday season, your input has just been sold.
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The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing.
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Kerushi
Caldari
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.23 14:24:00 -
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don`t tell me the gm`s are working faster then the office staff... from them i`ve allready had a reply and escalation...
hello? anyone? ccp?
/me still ♥ kieron, mary Xmass
/me will ♥ cpp again after a fix, mary Xmass nontheless
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Katrina Kirellii
Caldari
Escorts of Eve
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Posted - 2006.12.23 16:45:00 -
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I still have not gotten mine.
I like the middle ground - without changing the current status.
I don't want dumbing down - in fact the opposite, but I would like to note that the current region boundaries to places like BoB have lots of choke spots to allow defense of 0.0 from the Empire player base.
Chokespots are bad if they prevent true turf warfare across broad areas. This is my uneducated by 0.0 viewing as I eye those holes to riches I only get to hear about.
Timezones are the enemy too - can't fight and sleep. Every time I see a post from MC about how they have to lose sleep to be effective, I feel sad for them. I am exaggerating a bit - I suppose they could just fight 1 hour a day and strike FEAR into most of us.
Katrina Kirellii
Captain of the Silken Mistress
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Putzkin
Caldari
Solar Storm
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.25 20:30:00 -
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is there a deadline to when you are SUPPOSED to have received an email about this poll? its christmas and by my count that leaves me with less than a week to receive it. and most people are out during that week.
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Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2006.12.26 08:06:00 -
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US Eve player for over 3 years now, I haven't gotten my survey. Are they going out in staggered waves through the 4th? That is what the original post suggests, but I, and I think others, would genuinely appreciate it if that was officially verified by Kieron or others. I am actually very eager to participate in this survey, so I hope mine arrives soon and they don't overlook me. Cheers!
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Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2006.12.28 21:25:00 -
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I don't know about anyone else, but when I did the survey, most of the questions were about demographics, like sex, race, income level -- stuff that doesn't have any bearing on the game itself. Most of the game-related questions were about whether you play console or MMOG games, which ones you'd heard of or played, and how many hours you play. There weren't any questions that related specifically to EVE gameplay, customer satisfaction, features desired, etc. Overall, it seemed a pretty worthless set of questions for anyone but the sales department.
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Kerushi
Caldari
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.12.29 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mack Dorgeans
I don't know about anyone else, but when I did the survey, most of the questions were about demographics, like sex, race, income level -- stuff that doesn't have any bearing on the game itself. Most of the game-related questions were about whether you play console or MMOG games, which ones you'd heard of or played, and how many hours you play. There weren't any questions that related specifically to EVE gameplay, customer satisfaction, features desired, etc. Overall, it seemed a pretty worthless set of questions for anyone but the sales department.
must have been worth every penny they recieved from our contact details
btw, it was done by CCP`s marketing, confirmed by a gm
still waiting for a frigging reply
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Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2006.12.29 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mack Dorgeans
I don't know about anyone else, but when I did the survey, most of the questions were about demographics, like sex, race, income level -- stuff that doesn't have any bearing on the game itself. Most of the game-related questions were about whether you play console or MMOG games, which ones you'd heard of or played, and how many hours you play. There weren't any questions that related specifically to EVE gameplay, customer satisfaction, features desired, etc. Overall, it seemed a pretty worthless set of questions for anyone but the sales department.
Thank you VERY much for posting this; MUCH needed information. I would like to be able to say that I am surprised that CCP shows no interest in customer feedback or satisfaction in the survey; unfortunately I can't. I am forced to say "Same'ol, Same'ol" and "How typical of them." I have to admit that I was a sap and a dupe all over again. I fell for it. I thought this might be a glimmer of hope in the LONG history of disappointing customer service for CCP. Oh well. Wake me when a REAL survey comes along because I will NOT be participating in this one. If my information has been sold to another company simply for the purpose of drumming up new revenue for CCP and its subsidiaries, this is just another in a long line of disappointments from CCP customer service for me, and I am sure others as well......
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xenorx
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.29 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: xenorx on 29/12/2006 20:13:07
Originally by: Mack Dorgeans
I don't know about anyone else, but when I did the survey, most of the questions were about demographics, like sex, race, income level -- stuff that doesn't have any bearing on the game itself. Most of the game-related questions were about whether you play console or MMOG games, which ones you'd heard of or played, and how many hours you play. There weren't any questions that related specifically to EVE gameplay, customer satisfaction, features desired, etc. Overall, it seemed a pretty worthless set of questions for anyone but the sales department.
Yep, mine was the same.
Actually, about the only EVE related questions on the survey was if I had ever heard of the game and played it. Of course it also asked if I had heard of about 2 dozen other games at the same time. One of those check all that apply kinda things. Then went onto what my age, race, marital status, income, ect.
Really got annoying when they had multiple questions about my income and where it compared to the national average.
Kieron,
1. What is your age?
2. What is your sex?
3. Are you married?
4. Are you straight or ghey?
5. How does you income level compare to the nation average? Lower? About the same? Above average? Godly?
6. What is your race? White? Black? Asian? Hispanic? other?
7. Have your ever heard of EVE-Online?
8. How much money do you make? 1-10,000, 10,001-50,000, 50,001-75,000, ect.
I think you get the idea. I dont mind answering a survey for the most part. I think this one could have been handled a bit better.
Oh and btw they never asked me how I heard of EVE. I found the game C.D. in the bargain bin for $9.95 at Best Buy. This was back on September 11th 2003. I have never seen or heard of it anywhere since then.
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Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2006.12.29 23:26:00 -
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I guess what bothers me is the EVE news item specifically made it sound as if there would be game-related feedback questions, which clearly there were not. As such, it seems as though folks were lied to just to get us to fill out the silly thing.
That probably wasn't the intent. Most likely the people posting the news were misled as well, but the end result is the same either way.
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar
The Black Swan Society
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Posted - 2006.12.31 09:37:00 -
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thank god i am UK,
i mean if CCP sent me a survey i would do it, but some company lol, *click* junkmail
Originally by: Sergio Ling
Originally by: Butter Dog
but I'm professional enough to keep my mouth shut about what I know.
i can't imagine that's true
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GankYou
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Posted - 2006.12.31 13:49:00 -
[42]
CCP sold out a long time ago.
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Druid R
Murder of Crows
E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.12.31 17:25:00 -
[43]
just dont answer it, and mail the compmay asking them to delete any infomation about you and never to contact you again, caus eif u do u will charge them.
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emepror
Gallente
The Lookers
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Posted - 2007.01.01 02:25:00 -
[44]
dont know if anyone asked already but i never got this email i live in NY so im wondering, where is my e-mail?
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Animus Montus
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Posted - 2007.01.01 03:29:00 -
[45]
Yeah, just break their own EULA there. State that they will keep it confidential and then just sell everyones email address to another company. I have got to change my email address again.
What about it kieron? EULA might not be law, but CCP wants us to agree to it, then just set it aside for a profit. Even though Agreement in EULA is similar to Contract. And I know I will be flamed for this statement again.
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kieron
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Posted - 2007.01.02 15:58:00 -
[46]
There are two days left in which to respond to the survey if you received an e-mail from the survey company. To those that have already participated, thank you very much for your support.
For those worried about receiving future mail from Harris Interactive or other companies as a result of the survey, CCP entered into the agreement with HI that the mail list we provided would not be used for any other/future surveys or distributed further.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online |
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Kerushi
Caldari
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.02 21:01:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Kerushi on 02/01/2007 21:02:39
Originally by: kieron
For those worried about receiving future mail from Harris Interactive or other companies as a result of the survey, CCP entered into the agreement with HI that the mail list we provided would not be used for any other/future surveys or distributed further.
I hereby request a copy of that agreement to be sent to my email, OR, still the removal out of Harris Interactive Inc. database.
still no excuse to give out X amount of user emails to a 3rd unauthorized company (as stated in ur own eula) wich is a data farmer.
So when is all of our info being handed to some data farmer? i`ll bet they`ll make what ever agreement u want...
oh, but u won`t, what`s the difference then with now???
suggest u do the mailing in house with linking to their survey next time ffs
edit: can`t spell, as usual...
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.01.02 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 02/01/2007 21:57:54
CCP is insulting the intelligence of the US Customers
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Kerushi
Caldari
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.02 22:18:00 -
[49]
Originally by: LUH 3471
Edited by: LUH 3471 on 02/01/2007 21:57:54
CCP is insulting the intelligence of the US Customers
that u can just see as no one from the US figured out their privacy was breach, all they saw "Oh YaY a Survey *click spam*" heh
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Putzkin
Caldari
Solar Storm
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.03 00:46:00 -
[50]
I have not received a mail for either of my accounts. I have been watching the filtered mail very closely since this survey was announced. I live in the US and have been a subscriber continuously since beta 7. i could possibly see just receiving one mail, or only receiving one for one account as a mere oversight. But this is starting to really annoy me.
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kieron
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Posted - 2007.01.25 00:33:00 -
[51]
I have just sent the fifteen players chosen at random for participation in the survey an e-mail asking for their mailing addresses so the prizes may be sent to them.
If you received an e-mail from me, please respond within the next two weeks. If you do not respond within that time frame, alternates will be contacted.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online |
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