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Professor Wilkins	Posted - 2006.12.19 01:47:00 - [1] I cannot believe in a game like this, that there is no slots available for players to use. I think there should be a better system so that everyone can use one. Sorry for the rant.
Comrade Metalone	Posted - 2006.12.19 02:40:00 - [2] There are plenty available to use. However, you have to suck it up and get into a 20-25 day queue. One of the disadvantages of being a solo player or a member of a corp without their own starbase, I'm afraid.
Mischa Barton	Posted - 2006.12.19 03:28:00 - [3] Originally by: Comrade Metalone There are plenty available to use. However, you have to suck it up and get into a 20-25 day queue. One of the disadvantages of being a solo player or a member of a corp without their own starbase, I'm afraid. A 20-25 day queue does not demonstrate there are 'plenty'. As another thread pointed out, over the last 12-18 months the population has doubled, and more BPO's have been seeded, with no commensurate increase in slots.
Quutar Caldari Auraxian Irregulars	Posted - 2006.12.19 03:39:00 - [4] setup a high sec R&D pos Not finding research slots in Empire Space? Try Quutar Research Services.
Comrade Metalone	Posted - 2006.12.19 03:40:00 - [5] It's a problem, indeed. But as I outlined above, there are solutions. I'm curious to know if CCP intends on making ME available only to those with patience (to endulge upon a 25 day queue) and to those who belong to a corp with a POS, or if they plan to rectify the problem. At any rate, there is a way around the problem: Queue up! I do agree though that is is a really poor solution.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2006.12.19 07:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Quutar setup a high sec R&D pos That's the best way to go ATM. I have 12 ME research slots for me and my corpmates this way and thinking on adding one or 2 more labs.
pulse1976 Minmatar FarCry Inc Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.19 12:41:00 - [7] Same here only we have 3 labs. Still got plenty of room to increase that if we need to. ATM we have on average a max of 2 days waiting for ME slots, PE slots are readily available as are copy slots. Invention slots haven't been used - yet! Get a high sec pos!
Professor Wilkins	Posted - 2006.12.19 17:54:00 - [8] yes i agree with the posts, it would be nice if CCP will come up with a solution for those who enjoy the industrial aspect of eve to be able to research their bpos.
NITROX UpAllNightGaming Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.19 18:04:00 - [9] There's a simple solution ... setup your own lab in hi-sec..... thats unless you want CCP to always hold your hand .. PS .. Before you scream "not fair, not fair, you have to be in an alliance or 2000 players corp" I'm in a single play corporation and it takes me "One" night of NPC'ing / Level 4 missions to pay for the fuel for a month for a 12 labs slot POS.
Professor Wilkins	Posted - 2006.12.19 18:10:00 - [10] what you using for your research if I may ask
Erfnam Time Cube Syndicate Daikoku Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 19:43:00 - [11] If you do not wish to manage a POS simply to get faster research, you can contract out to a corp that provides this service. There are many such corps with various research capacities and locations. My corp provides these services...as does Quutar's and a few others. Send me a mail if you need help. Time Cube Syndicate is recruiting
Chamadra	Posted - 2006.12.19 22:00:00 - [12] Well in all honesty industry is not for the feint of heart. You need really high skills and infrastructure to make it profitable. One of those infrastructure items would be a POS. You can setup a small POS with 2 labs for about 350M and after that it costs about 40Mil a month in fuel which you will easily make from the higher profit margins of your researched BPs and selling BPCs. In order to make the most use of it though you will need a high lab operations skill.
Darth Bob Dark Excession	Posted - 2006.12.20 02:34:00 - [13] I think it's absolutely amazing what ccp is doing here, limiting research in npc stations. Eve was always meant to be player generated, now research is slowly becoming just that. If anything, I think ccp should remove even more labslots from npc stations. High sec research POS's are the way of the future and there are at least 6 corporations that I know of who offer their services for a (small) fee.
Kellaen Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.12.20 04:15:00 - [14] Unfortunately they're still not really public use. The day you can install a job at whatever price the POS lab owner decrees without jumping through multiple hoops is the day it starts working as a real player driven system.
Raider Null	Posted - 2006.12.20 06:00:00 - [15] CCP will not and should not change this game mechanic. There has already been a major adjustment to the system by allowing Concord to protect high-sec POS's. Now all you need to do is get together with a friend or two and put one up and keep it fueled. That's exactly what I did right after Kalvelations and it is SOOOOO nice. I currently have 2 copy jobs, 6 ME jobs, and a couple time jobs running at my POS in high sec. The means are there for the taking, you just have to decide the opportunity cost of having instant slots and running a POS versus having to wait for slots. On the other hand, ME is only a once or twice proposition, and once it's done you don't need to do it again so really, is the 20 day wait that bad? PS-Slots in low sec can often be had much faster than 20 days and you'd be surprised how safe some of low sec is, especially if you travel with an escort.
qvacky AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.12.20 13:24:00 - [16] Originally by: Kellaen Unfortunately they're still not really public use. The day you can install a job at whatever price the POS lab owner decrees without jumping through multiple hoops is the day it starts working as a real player driven system. bingo. if they figure out how to make the 'public' access on my slots public, then it would be a viable system. as it stands you have to screw around with collateral and the like, and it generally isn't worth the effort to hire out the slots, as its more profitable just to buy the bpos yourself, and stick them in the labs instead.

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