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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.16 18:14:13 -
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and raise faction spawn again.
belt ratting isnt fun (basically) without faction spawns but was a chill thing to do occassionally.
please. |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.16 18:19:29 -
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faction spawns virtually removed (very very low spawn rate).
pre-nerf you could get 2-3 faction spawns a day if ratted hard, nowadays you can rat for 4-6 weeks straight without a single faction spawn... |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.16 18:35:41 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:I honestly hate when people do this online, but I just can't stop myself...
*sigh* ( I literally did sigh, like HARD, so I had to express it )
The only reason it is interesting when faction loot drops, is because that loot is expensive and can net you lots of ISK (or I guess a better fit)
The only reason faction loot is so expensive is because it is rare.
If faction drops go up, prices go down, and then you'll probably be here suggesting even more faction loot drops because the prices have gone down and you want the same ISK as before.
There's so much entitlement in a post of so few words...
it was fine before the nerf. |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.16 18:54:13 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:Robert Caldera wrote:faction spawns virtually removed (very very low spawn rate).
Just you who is unlucky...
m mmhkay if you say so
Thron Legacy wrote:"CCPlease buff nullsec ratting so I can krab in my carrier and earn twice as much in half the time"
Thats the exact opposite of what we need
in a carrier in belt, sure... this guy has a clue |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.16 19:22:36 -
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Kenrailae wrote:I honestly don't know the state of belt ratting, but if it gets more random carriers in random belts to kill, then please buff. Must kill bads in carriers.
belt ratting is dead, people ratted a bit in belts even after anomalies buff but not that much, after removal of faction spawns noone is left doing it anymore. |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.16 20:06:54 -
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Thron Legacy wrote:Robert Caldera wrote:in a carrier in belt, sure... this guy has a clue after they get buffed peeps will rat in belts instead
so? whats bad about that? Making beltratting viable again is exactly the point of this thread (see thread title). |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.16 21:51:02 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:
Citation of nerf to faction spawn rates is required. Post link to relevant devblog.
no its not required |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.16 23:07:19 -
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Danika Princip wrote:
Yes, it is.
Look at the prices of guristas faction and deadspace mods and tell me we need more spawns.
1) how is "citation of faction spawn rate nerf" related to guristas prices? (deadspace stuff doesnt drop from belt rats)
2) factrion gurista prices cant be an argument since the whole north is just overfarmed by goons (you) and CFC. Other places in eve are not so..,
3) cheap faction stuff is good for pvp, so kinda compensating less profit for bears. |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.16 23:20:08 -
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I cant simply because CCP never put it into patch notes, I think - but whoever did belt ratting a lot noticed the very steep drop of spawns and knows very well what I'm talking about, so does CCP, the rest is irrelevant - I dont need nor want to prove it for anyone else since this thread is directed at CCP in the first line. |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.17 08:15:56 -
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people post because they want to post, thats fine.
I'm not trying to convince morons who just want to spam or people asking for evidence mereley because they can, I dont need their approval or their vote.
This thread is directed at CCP who ruined one of chil things in their game, its up to them to return content or not, if they want people to log in and play, which there is iteratively less and less motivation to do that,... vOv |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2015.09.17 08:51:45 -
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Daniela Doran wrote:did CCP actually nerfed the faction loot drops from the rats in belts?
1) they introduced anomalies which were more lucrative and easy to farm, which almost completely invalidated belt ratting
2) few years later they quietly virtually removed any spawn chance for faction rats and so ruined belt ratting for the few people left even more |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.17 09:44:05 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:They removed chainspawning, thats what killed belt ratting.
this was a while later I believe but nonetheless another unneeded nerf of already dead belt ratting,
cant understand why they keep kicking when one is already laying on the floor and even stopped breathing already.
Baali Tekitsu wrote: Belt ratting for faction spawns never was a thing.
for me it was part of the fun. I never did belt ratting for ISK, otherwise I'd be farming anomalies.
I did it because it was a chill activity + you had a faction spawn from times to times which was nice.
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
The price for officer modules has been fairly stable for the last years so the spawnrate didnt change there aswell.
officer spawn rate wasnt topic of this thread at all, completely different thing |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.17 10:05:50 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Adding more faction spawns , will just decrease value of the stuff they drop, so after some buff, every thing will go back to the starting point.
I'd be fine with that, drop in value. ok. More good gear cheaper for pvp, thats the compensation.
Anthar Thebess wrote:
I think that there was no real nerf to faction spawn rate
there was, who did belt ratting knows this (ofc not many people since everyone moved to anomaly farming years earlier).
Anthar Thebess wrote:
, simply buff to escalation rate on sov signatures hit hard this like pirate faction LP stores and all combat sites.
how is this relevant for this thread, which is purely about faction rat spawn rate in belts?!
Anthar Thebess wrote:
Belt ratting is now the less profitable thing you can do in nullsec ( if you exclude the mining )
yes, like I wrote before, noone does it for ISK anyways, I've done it for fun which was for some part finding a faction spawn, opening a Kinder Egg, you know this sort of a thing. |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.17 10:18:31 -
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wtf has all this to do with my belt ratting issue??
yes, prices might fall a bit, whatever, im fine with it because some other part of the game gets a buff maybe:
- cheap faction gear for pvp
- little more people in belts to kill
yes, escalations were buffed, drop rates in plexes have been buffed, a separate issue. All I want is to see some more faction rats in belts, which wouldnt have much of impact anyways because hardly anyone is left for belt ratting nowadays. |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.17 10:23:43 -
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Suitonia wrote:
The Spawn rate of Faction Spawns has not changed.
it has.
years ago I was belt ratting a lot, I've found 1-2 faction spawns a day usually on regular basis.
then months later, suddenly, you would rat for weeks and not find a single one, for 2 months, then I quit doing that.
You might say it was just bad luck, going from 200 to 5 but I dont think so, also had other people who confirmed the same.
Suitonia wrote:
The Escalations are relevant because more faction spawns in them dropping faction loot, means the loot you get from faction spawns in belts has lower demand, and thus lower prices due to higher supply.
I dont care about the prices, this thread is not about the prices |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2015.09.24 22:34:48 -
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CCPs changed security status gain from rats is even less reason for belt ratting. No more accumulated SS gain over multiple systems. Just realized how dull eve has got, docked and logged.. gn8 all |
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