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Alesius Lerance Chrysos Aigis 31	Posted - 2015.09.18 00:32:41 - [1] - Quote Apologies to the original proprietor of these threads for stealing their idea, but the current stress levels in IGS seem to by skyrocketing. We've had your favourite holoreels, and your favourite electronic games, so now I am asking: who are the music artists that you are currently listening to? For me its a Gallente singer who goes by the somewhat sacreligious name of St. Annie Vincent. I was introduced to her music by someone very close to my heart and I must say it has completed supplanted my previous favourites. She's not even well known in the Federation right now, but she is excellent. Who are your favourites? No singer too small! Family, Corporation, and State, in that order. What else is there worth fighting for?
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 716	Posted - 2015.09.18 02:37:38 - [2] - Quote I do not have a preference for singers but I do have preferences for genres. It is not Death Rustcore. I never like the themes of violence, mostly focused on the Amarr Empire, all that much. I prefer Jazz, Swing Jazz, especially Mechano-Swing Jazz, the product of our Minmatar brethren who take residence the Gallente Federation. Mechano-Swing is a fusion of the cold precision and practicality of the Mechanical Engineering discipline with the joyous energy of Swing. It brings understanding in pneumatic into the woodwinds, it marries the hydraulic pistons to the drums, it mechanizes the violins! Everything is improvised, from the instrumental machines to the beats to the songs! It celebrates the freedom our ancestors bled and died for, rather than to brood over the injustice that was inflicted on our race! And that is why I take Mechano-Swing Jazz over Death Rustcore any day. I am also starting to warm up to Factory Jazz, where the technicians, operators and etc will turn their tools and their machines and their storage devices into improvised instruments of Jazz and spontaneously break into song and music. I especially like how Factory Jazz can break out at any time of day without warning. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. 7617	Posted - 2015.09.18 04:21:44 - [3] - Quote Stress? What? I'm having a positively merry time here! That said, when it comes to a properly relaxed evening, it's some woodwinds and a bit of brandy. I don't really ascribe to any particular artist, though I'm fond of those who do the more traditional Achuran style. Call it romanticism if you'd like. But most evenings of late, after a day of briefings, meetings, and strategy sessions, I just hit the pillow and I'm gone. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
Jade Blackwind Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 643	Posted - 2015.09.18 08:46:38 - [4] - Quote As far as minmatar bands go, i'd pick Spirits can dance. Though when in pod I usually listen to some rhythmic synth stuff that doesn't distract too much.
Naraish Adarn Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 147	Posted - 2015.09.18 09:03:26 - [5] - Quote I've lately been re-listening my grandfathers old caldari music collection some of which are compositions from before war with gallente and caldari. I've quite fallen for the string quartets from that era here's an example (Galnet link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVBYIpTHFEc )
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1454	Posted - 2015.09.18 12:19:58 - [6] - Quote While I'll admit to being a fan of Rustcore, it's not the stuff that celebrates violence that really gets my attention. My current musical indulgence is a mostly Thukker group, Wanderer. They combine a lot of the traditional Rustcore sound with a heavier reliance on drum circling (the newer form that combines the Wind and Earth Dance, or direct martial arts techniques, to impact-wheel-driven percussion to create an audio-visual performance within the circle) and throat-singing. Most of their music's either completely without traditional lyrics, or re-interpretations of old travelers' tales, like Sea Beyond retelling legendary stories of early Matari voyages of exploration, from traversing the Great Wet Desert to the first forays to other stars before the Day of Darkness. There's a number of my crew who prefer Sarz'namarr, as well, but it's a little more aggressive than I tend to enjoy. I get enough aggression in my real life, you know?
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 717	Posted - 2015.09.18 13:25:54 - [7] - Quote Arrendis wrote: While I'll admit to being a fan of Rustcore, it's not the stuff that celebrates violence that really gets my attention. My current musical indulgence is a mostly Thukker group, Wanderer. They combine a lot of the traditional Rustcore sound with a heavier reliance on drum circling (the newer form that combines the Wind and Earth Dance, or direct martial arts techniques, to impact-wheel-driven percussion to create an audio-visual performance within the circle) and throat-singing. Most of their music's either completely without traditional lyrics, or re-interpretations of old travelers' tales, like Sea Beyond retelling legendary stories of early Matari voyages of exploration, from traversing the Great Wet Desert to the first forays to other stars before the Day of Darkness. There's a number of my crew who prefer Sarz'namarr, as well, but it's a little more aggressive than I tend to enjoy. I get enough aggression in my real life, you know? You must recommend me some of that. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2024	Posted - 2015.09.18 14:15:44 - [8] - Quote Alesius Lerance wrote: For me its a Gallente singer Eww! I knew it. I KNEW IT! Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2024	Posted - 2015.09.18 14:17:03 - [9] - Quote Makoto Priano wrote: I just hit the pillow and I'm gone. I hope from other side of the pillow there will be a silencer. Dishonorable liars don't deserve honorable deaths. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Sinjin Mokk Khanid Interstellar Survey and Security 643	Posted - 2015.09.18 14:46:24 - [10] - Quote Alesius Lerance wrote: For me its a Gallente singer who goes by the somewhat sacreligious name of St. Annie Vincent. I was introduced to her music by someone very close to my heart and I must say it has completed supplanted my previous favourites. She should consider a tour in Khanid. We have an appreciation for Gallente pop singers. Dark Amarr: Rumors!
Quattras Peione Gentlemen of Fortune. 160	Posted - 2015.09.18 15:44:27 - [11] - Quote I'm a big fan of garage punk-influenced folk music. I really have a soft spot for jazz, but it tends to leave me a bit too relaxed for combat. Anything but the super-polished GalPop swill that my kids listen to. The missus plays twangy settler-type folk stuff around the house, but it's all so very fake. Most of those artists have never been out of The Forge in their lives. Dr. Quattras Alvar Peione No, I'm not that kind of doctor.
Tyrel Toov Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 625	Posted - 2015.09.18 17:37:49 - [12] - Quote Spai. You will not get any information out of me! I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 5599	Posted - 2015.09.18 17:45:59 - [13] - Quote Sinjin Mokk wrote: Alesius Lerance wrote: For me its a Gallente singer who goes by the somewhat sacreligious name of St. Annie Vincent. I was introduced to her music by someone very close to my heart and I must say it has completed supplanted my previous favourites. She should consider a tour in Khanid. We have an appreciation for Gallente pop singers. Mr Mokk, you have a wicked sense of humour. "Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
Tyrel Toov Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 625	Posted - 2015.09.18 17:56:50 - [14] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: I am also starting to warm up to Factory Jazz, where the technicians, operators and etc will turn their tools and their machines and their storage devices into improvised instruments of Jazz and spontaneously break into song and music. I especially like how Factory Jazz can break out at any time of day without warning. So that's what that noise coming from my hanger is.... I think my techs need to improve their timing though. I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1456	Posted - 2015.09.18 18:26:50 - [15] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: She should consider a tour in Khanid. We have an appreciation for Gallente pop singers. Mr Mokk, you have a wicked sense of humour.[/quote] I'll admit I laughed.
Alesius Lerance Chrysos Aigis 35	Posted - 2015.09.18 21:27:59 - [16] - Quote Sinjin Mokk wrote: Alesius Lerance wrote: For me its a Gallente singer who goes by the somewhat sacreligious name of St. Annie Vincent. I was introduced to her music by someone very close to my heart and I must say it has completed supplanted my previous favourites. She should consider a tour in Khanid. We have an appreciation for Gallente pop singers. Very funny Mr. Mokk, but odds are that she is so little known that she was already in the Kingdom and out again before anyone noticed. Also I wouldn't call it pop music, there's a certain visual aesthetic to it aswell. I suppose Art-Rock would be an appropriate term? Family, Corporation, and State, in that order. What else is there worth fighting for?
Markus Error Stillwater Corporation 86	Posted - 2015.09.19 01:18:07 - [17] - Quote Personally, my current musical fugue has taken me to a fairly small group from Rens - I think? - who have essentially made... for lack of a better term, rustcore lite. As in, the instruments are there, as are some of the themes and such, but it's done... with much less anger than normal rustcore. It's fun stuff. Surprisingly dancable, too. "If it cannot be shot the #### down, it can always be blown the #### up." -Unknown
Viktor Revon 12	Posted - 2015.09.19 02:30:46 - [18] - Quote There is a small band of mixed races hailing from Nullsec that plays a sadly forgotten type of music. It is called Groove Steel, and the band is called 'False Reality' The lyrics sometimes promote violence, but not often, but there is a good sense of aggression in their music as the speed is quite literally the fastest I have heard in a while. Their lastest single - Forgive Us - Is quite a good song, where it lacks in musical aggression it makes up for in lyric quality. Damn those CONCORD bastards and their ways... Grumbles *I WAS TAKING THOSE SLAVES TO FREEDOM, I SWEAR IT!*
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 719	Posted - 2015.09.19 06:05:21 - [19] - Quote Markus Error wrote: Personally, my current musical fugue has taken me to a fairly small group from Rens - I think? - who have essentially made... for lack of a better term, rustcore lite. As in, the instruments are there, as are some of the themes and such, but it's done... with much less anger than normal rustcore. It's fun stuff. Surprisingly dancable, too. Hopefully there's more of this, and it's a sign that the Minmatar race are losing their fixation on vengeance against the Amarr Empire. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Skyweir Kinnison King's Irregular Lancers 87	Posted - 2015.09.19 08:33:20 - [20] - Quote My personal listening tends towards the contemplative, particularly chamber music and the cello. For performance art however, very little matches the sheer spectacle of Mannar Balletic Theremin. We are known as a conservative people, but like many such, our ancient ritual and artistic heritage reflects a deeper yearning for expressive freedom. Balletic Theremin takes place in an open amphitheatres, where the curvature of the stage contains the antennae necessary for the music to be generated. The artists dance - tradition dictates that they are naked, but painted in vivid colours and motifs associated with the piece being played - and their movements draw forth the music of the aether. A great performance is transfixing. Ancient compositions (the form of these pieces is rigorously set) take place in amphitheatres as noted, but several hundred years ago Gallentean influences brought forth the idea of artists flying through the aetheric field using trapezes, giving rise to a free-form style somewhat akin to a physical expression of jazz. This reaches rather extrodardinary heights of innovation with the advent of zero-gravity performances. The modern stuff is a bit anarchic for my tastes, but I find a delicate performance of a classic to be utterly invigorating to mind and spirit. To dance is also uplifting to the spirit, as the forms discipline both mind and body. (I cannot claim personal excellence, but competent striving is rewarding in its own way). We have a dedicated amphitheatre at the Estates, with regular visits of the best troupes should anyone be interested. Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2025	Posted - 2015.09.19 17:26:53 - [21] - Quote Skyweir Kinnison wrote: The artists dance - tradition dictates that they are naked, but painted in vivid colours and motifs associated with the piece being played - and their movements draw forth the music of the aether. For Maker's sake! This isn't art! This isn't music! This even isn't expression. This is FILTH, DISGRACE and DECADENCE. Shame on you. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Skyweir Kinnison King's Irregular Lancers 88	Posted - 2015.09.19 17:52:21 - [22] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Skyweir Kinnison wrote: The artists dance - tradition dictates that they are naked, but painted in vivid colours and motifs associated with the piece being played - and their movements draw forth the music of the aether. For Maker's sake! This isn't art! This isn't music! This even isn't expression. This is FILTH, DISGRACE and DECADENCE. Shame on you. I assure you, aside from the body paint everyone is quite clean. It is deliciously decadent though. You should try dancing ecstatically, caressed only by the breeze sometime. Might help with all that unhealthy repression. Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2025	Posted - 2015.09.19 18:08:08 - [23] - Quote Actually, returning to the topic. I don't really have any favorite artists. Especially singers. Cmon, our squad in the academy was singing better during marches than any scene 'singer'. Oh, and of course I'd like to put out that gallentean "music" is too unprofessional. Sometimes their music don't even have melody, their singers just yell. Not as hard as minmatar music, of course. Minmatar music is real torture to the ears. I probably would love Amarr music... if it wasn't so slow... I really prefer professional Caldari music. And no... no, of course not NOH songs. Whomever will point on that would risk having my slipper flying in direction of their forehead. I mean - real, modern Caldari professional music. Something like important CEO speaking it plays on background. Or even better - admiral. They really can make it sound better, sometimes even better than their speeches. I love also ancient drum music, with huge huge drums and beating a rhythm. It gives you feel of power and preparedness. Generally I can say I love professional made music in major scale and built on quarts (melodic perfect fourths), and I would really love hearing short, fast and precise drumlines within the rhythm. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2025	Posted - 2015.09.19 18:12:52 - [24] - Quote Skyweir Kinnison wrote: Diana Kim wrote: Skyweir Kinnison wrote: The artists dance - tradition dictates that they are naked, but painted in vivid colours and motifs associated with the piece being played - and their movements draw forth the music of the aether. For Maker's sake! This isn't art! This isn't music! This even isn't expression. This is FILTH, DISGRACE and DECADENCE. Shame on you. I assure you, aside from the body paint everyone is quite clean. It is deliciously decadent though. Delicious?! They are NAKED! This isn't delicious! This is GROSS and disgusting! Skyweir Kinnison wrote: You should try dancing ecstatically, caressed only by the breeze sometime. Might help with all that unhealthy repression. How about... ... NOPE! Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1459	Posted - 2015.09.19 18:59:56 - [25] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Delicious?! They are NAKED! This isn't delicious! This is GROSS and disgusting! So you find yourself disgusting, do you?
Markus Error Stillwater Corporation 86	Posted - 2015.09.19 23:56:18 - [26] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Not as hard as minmatar music, of course. Minmatar music is real torture to the ears. Only true if one considers "Minmatar music" to be solely death rustcore and similar. Credit where credit is due, however, the Caldari make excellent music when not singing on the march or trying to mimic Amarrian chanting. "If it cannot be shot the #### down, it can always be blown the #### up." -Unknown
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2026	Posted - 2015.09.20 09:41:43 - [27] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Diana Kim wrote: Delicious?! They are NAKED! This isn't delicious! This is GROSS and disgusting! So you find yourself disgusting, do you? Can you read, goon? I was writing about naked. Can you see, goon? I am not naked. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1459	Posted - 2015.09.20 09:55:59 - [28] - Quote I can, indeed, both read and see. And yet you are naked beneath your clothing. When you clean yourself, you are naked. When you get into the pod, you are naked. So I put it to you again: Do you find yourself disgusting? You. Yourself. You are not your clothing. You exist separately from the clothes you wear. Do you find yourself disgusting?
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2026	Posted - 2015.09.20 22:25:41 - [29] - Quote Arrendis wrote: I can, indeed, both read and see. And yet you are naked beneath your clothing. When you clean yourself, you are naked. When you get into the pod, you are naked. So I put it to you again: Do you find yourself disgusting? You. Yourself. You are not your clothing. You exist separately from the clothes you wear. Do you find yourself disgusting? It doesn't matter if you are naked under clothes, under capsule, in shower or in bed. Because you are always covered by something and nobody see you. As for disgust? No. We aren't simply our bodies, because bodies are simple projections of us into this world. They are tools we interact with our surroundings. As for bodies themselves, in general - no, they aren't disgusting as well. But there are parts of these bodies that are disgusting. Not by themselves, of course, but by association they are used for. You see, products of humans don't have good look or smell, neither they are hygienic. They are... unpleasant. And in civilized society you cover body parts that are associated with body functions. Other thing is that humans look like... animals, with hairs like everywhere. And again in developed societies you cover body to show yourself more "advanced" than just animal. Of course, there is even more important thing about clothes. They show your position in the society. By looking at clothes you can simply distinguish a medical officer from a clerk. A corporation manager from factory worker. A navy officer from security staff. And even in the same field clothes can help you distinguish rank of people even if you can't read insignia, for example, you don't have to know ranks and read insignia of a private and admiral to understand that admiral outranks a private. Without clothes, without your uniform you won't just feel naked, you will see yourself deprived of your place of society, of your purpose, of your pride in something you have achieved. Uniforms make humans from us. Even in ancient times warriors and field workers had distinguishable clothes. Every warlord, line soldiers of different squads, field workers, all had different equipment. Plain soldiers could even wear different colors to show their belonging to a certain division, so warlords could see their positions during the battle and command maneuvers accordingly. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Foley Aberas Jones Huogikku Corporation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 520	Posted - 2015.09.21 00:04:24 - [30] - Quote Alesius Lerance wrote: Apologies to the original proprietor Did you get my lawyer's letter yet?
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1460	Posted - 2015.09.21 00:06:05 - [31] - Quote So you define yourself by external measures, and gauge your worth in comparison to others while being revolted by parts of you that are no less well-formed for their purpose than your fingers and hands. How very telling.
Shelby Dusette Isogen 5 12692	Posted - 2015.09.21 06:09:32 - [32] - Quote When I'm chillin', which is like a lot of the time, I always like listening to a lil Roc Wieler. I like rap too. Candi's an amateur rapper n' I sometimes listen to her at home. The more angry she gets the better it is. She can really cut some sick tunes n' dank beats yo. -ò-+-öGäô-¦-â pàñ pàñ -ò-â -+-â+¦-ò-é GÖÑ -ò-àc-+ -¦-Å+¦++-ö GÖÑ -+any l-ög+¦-â-+
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2028	Posted - 2015.09.21 06:56:42 - [33] - Quote Arrendis wrote: So you define yourself by external measures, and gauge your worth in comparison to others while being revolted by parts of you that are no less well-formed for their purpose than your fingers and hands. How very telling. Oh, I see. That goon instead of discussing the question prefers to discuss the author. Well, I guess it's my turn to return the favor. Really, I have noticed this goon's lack of ability to maintain civil conversation and tried to shrug her off. She insisted on asking questions, so I gave her proper answer. It looks like she didn't really had intentions to discuss the matter, but rather take words of her opponent (who was this time me) to turn them against the author and make false assumptions just for insulting. Smart peoples, who want to know about me, simply ask questions. Goon - makes false assumptions. This is, unfortunately, a typical behavior of a goon, an inhabitant of lawless and empty space. They play toy soldiers in their pity empires and think they are "somebody" now. By her "speech" you can see typical lack of education and civil norms. Goons show mutual disrespect and offensive behavior, they are known to make "jokes" by insulting each other. A real proud citizen would never become a goon and allow others to talk like that to them. But I guess we all should say thanks to goon leadership for them taking thrash out from Empire space and throwing it in useless uninhabited lawless nullsecs. Now only if they could also prohibit them using NeoCom at all and use only their local system channels to talk, they would be golden. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1460	Posted - 2015.09.21 07:27:14 - [34] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Arrendis wrote: So you define yourself by external measures, and gauge your worth in comparison to others while being revolted by parts of you that are no less well-formed for their purpose than your fingers and hands. How very telling. Oh, I see. That goon instead of discussing the question prefers to discuss the author. Well, considering I asked the question, I think you'd have to admit - I'm the one who knew why I was asking it, and what I was looking for in your answer. If you'd prefer to expand upon your thoughts, feel free. However, I do want to point out, I'm not the one who initiated conflict in a 'chill out' thread by denigrating and insulting someone else's choice of musical diversion. Quote: Really, I have noticed this goon's lack of ability to maintain civil conversation and tried to shrug her off. She insisted on asking questions, so I gave her proper answer. It looks like she didn't really had intentions to discuss the matter, but rather take words of her opponent (who was this time me) to turn them against the author and make false assumptions just for insulting. You use clothing to delineate who you are - and in fact, of the two functions you give for clothing, you assign the greater importance ('even more important thing about clothes' - your words, not mine) to showing 'your position in the society', and establishing rank, even in civilian positions where there is no rank, specifically in order to know who outranks who - comparative worth. You said those things, and you consider me restating them - no assumptions, just acknowledging your words - to be an insult? I fear, Ms. Kim, that you should perhaps examine your reactions, and what they might mean. It's also quite interesting that you feel a culture of mutual teasing is a sign of disrespect, rather than the implicit respect required to engage in such behavior. One must, after all, trust one's co-workers not to take offense when none if intended, and to respond with an equal absence of malice. And, lest you think this a 'goon' phenomenon, the same patterns of behavior exist within many of the corporations in the State, including - from personal experience - Lai Dai and Caldari Navy. I am, of course, more than willing to admit that it's quite likely you've never seen that side of the people around you, though. As I said: it requires a certain degree of trust that the other person will understand your intent, and not become offended. People relaxing enough to let their guard down around one another is a sign of inclusion. Perhaps you should also consider why it is they don't relax around you.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2028	Posted - 2015.09.21 09:25:50 - [35] - Quote Arrendis wrote: However, I do want to point out, I'm not the one who initiated conflict in a 'chill out' thread by denigrating and insulting someone else's choice of musical diversion. Oh, now now, looks like goon forgot to read. Should I grab your head and press your nose to neocom screen so you could see your first reply at least this close, really? Invite me to your quarters for this easy exercise, I'll show you where you did your mistake, goon. Free following etiquette lesson will be included. Medical insurance at your expense though. Arrendis wrote: You said those things, and you consider me restating them - no assumptions, just acknowledging your words - to be an insult? I fear, Ms. Kim, that you should perhaps examine your reactions, and what they might mean. If you didn't understand something - ask. Or repeat word to word as I said. Using other words to claim "I said this" is a simple and stupid lie. A lie about Caldari officer is an offence against Caldari officer and Caldari State. My reactions to hostile behavior is... straightforward and unveiled hostility including my tone, words I choose and points I reply to. Arrendis wrote: It's also quite interesting that you feel a culture of mutual teasing is a sign of disrespect, rather than the implicit respect required to engage in such behavior. Respect includes honor, humble behavior, politeness... it is clearly seen you lack basic understanding of respect. Teasing is a clear and definite sign of disrespect. Every citizen in the State have to pass three years obligatory military service, during which everyone is properly taught what the respect and proper behavior does mean... provided they didn't learn it beforehand. Arrendis wrote: One must, after all, trust one's co-workers not to take offense when none if intended, and to respond with an equal absence of malice. When the offense is not intended, one is to bring apology to another. Honorable citizen should be able to step over its pride, admit mistake, ask for forgiveness if he feel he did something wrong, and humble accept the punishment. As well as on other hand, honorable citizen must keep its pride if he acted right and was defending himself, yet should humble accept the punishment if rules were broken. Arrendis wrote: And, lest you think this a 'goon' phenomenon, the same patterns of behavior exist within many of the corporations in the State, including - from personal experience - Lai Dai and Caldari Navy. You haven't met our sarge. He wouldn't simply press your head into neocom screen as I have suggested earlier, but would do it with his foot. But eh, he was a superior officer back then. As for mutual respect during the academy, my fists quickly were showing others why shouldn't they disrespect those, who is slightly different from them. Even if there were many of them, even if I couldn't win... they always knew I will never surrender. Well, it was early years. Couple years before I became a capsuleer we were properly respecting each other and fighting together, saving each other ass. But anyway, we were equals. I hope you don't consider an outlaw nullsec refugee being equal to Caldari officer? Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2028	Posted - 2015.09.21 09:37:00 - [36] - Quote Arrendis wrote: I am, of course, more than willing to admit that it's quite likely you've never seen that side of the people around you, though. As I said: it requires a certain degree of trust that the other person will understand your intent, and not become offended. People don't usually get offended if you don't act offending to them. Of course, sometimes misunderstandings appear, but it is rather easily to see if this misunderstanding causes offence or discomfort to other party, so you could bring apologies and fix mistakes. Lack of respecting behavior is offending. Discussing others is offending, unless you were asked for personal advice. Teasing is offending. Lying is offending... No, really, I probably should stop here. Arrendis wrote: People relaxing enough to let their guard down around one another is a sign of inclusion. Perhaps you should also consider why it is they don't relax around you. Before I have joined the Academy, I was learning in the monastery. My master, waking me each morning with his wooden pole by striking to my stomach to see if I can reflect it, was always telling me: If you relax, you let your guard down. If you let your guard down, you can be attacked when you aren't ready. If you can be attacked when you aren't ready, you can be easily killed. And if you can be easily killed, you don't worth to live anyway. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1485	Posted - 2015.09.21 14:58:48 - [37] - Quote I, Claudia Amelia Testarossa Wingate Lillithella Osyn MDCXXXIV, Goddess of the IGS, most beloved by some, source of ire for ever more, decrees that Kimmy is beyond all hope of reason. Please stop trying to make her see that, and just continue to treat her as my angry court jester. A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1460	Posted - 2015.09.21 16:46:16 - [38] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Arrendis wrote: However, I do want to point out, I'm not the one who initiated conflict in a 'chill out' thread by denigrating and insulting someone else's choice of musical diversion. Oh, now now, looks like goon forgot to read. Should I grab your head and press your nose to neocom screen so you could see your first reply at least this close, really? So I initiated conflict in my first reply, did I? Would that be my first reply in the thread, discussing the music of Wanderer, or my first reply to you, where I asked you a question in response to: Diana Kim wrote: Delicious?! They are NAKED! This isn't delicious! This is GROSS and disgusting! and several posts after Diana Kim wrote: For Maker's sake! This isn't art! This isn't music! This even isn't expression. This is FILTH, DISGRACE and DECADENCE. Shame on you. But I initiated conflict. Ms. Kim, I do have to reiterate: You are the single greatest recruitment scam the Gallente Federation has ever perpetrated. Please convey my congratulations to your handlers within GalInt.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2028	Posted - 2015.09.21 17:55:56 - [39] - Quote Arrendis wrote: So I initiated conflict in my first reply, did I? Would that be my first reply in the thread, discussing the music of Wanderer, or my first reply to you, where I asked you a question in response to: Diana Kim wrote: Delicious?! They are NAKED! This isn't delicious! This is GROSS and disgusting! That wasn't addressed to you, yet you jumped into defense of the enemy. This actually makes you the enemy as well. You don't have to be a scientist to understand such sort of relation. Arrendis wrote: But I initiated conflict. Ms. Kim, I do have to reiterate: So you chose to be an enemy of Caldari officer and Caldari State. Dully noted. Well, a lot of gurista hate law enforcement and Caldari military arms for we wipe floor with your butts. Especially gallentean lovers like you. You can continue attacking us and screaming in impotent rage, but this will change nothing, and your words will never become true. Arrendis wrote: You are the single greatest recruitment scam the Gallente Federation has ever perpetrated. Please convey my congratulations to your handlers within GalInt. And followed by a typical lie and insult about Caldari officer. Well, at least I hoped you would try to make up something more... realistic. Alas, I have really overestimated your mental abilities. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1460	Posted - 2015.09.21 21:19:40 - [40] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: That wasn't addressed to you, yet you jumped into defense of the enemy. This actually makes you the enemy as well. You don't have to be a scientist to understand such sort of relation. Nor was what you replied to addressed to you. I haven't leapt to anyone's defense - I asked you a question because your response indicated an extremely unhealthy self-image, and I was curious. Quote: So you chose to be an enemy of Caldari officer and Caldari State. Dully noted. Well, a lot of gurista hate law enforcement and Caldari military arms for we wipe floor with your butts. Especially gallentean lovers like you. You can continue attacking us and screaming in impotent rage, but this will change nothing, and your words will never become true. Why would I attack the Caldari State? I'm actually in very good standing with the State. Rather don't like the Federation, either - I feel they've been a corrupting influence and they're given to an anarchistic mob mentality with a thin veneer of organization in the name of 'democracy'. But you keep going on conflating the State's interests with your own wounded pride. I do find it highly amusing that you'd lump me in with the Guristas there, though. Haven't a clue, really, have you?
Anyanka Funk Hematology Advancement Program 210	Posted - 2015.09.21 21:53:24 - [41] - Quote So glad no one mentioned [redacted]. May she forever be forgotten. I used to listen to music. Now I just listen for red god.
Alesius Lerance Chrysos Aigis 36	Posted - 2015.09.21 22:39:35 - [42] - Quote Kim, Arrendis. This is a chill out thread. Neither of you needed to escalate that argument and frankly the very title of this page discourages such behaviour. If either of you post in here again I will be rather upset. Family, Corporation, and State, in that order. What else is there worth fighting for?
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1460	Posted - 2015.09.21 22:49:27 - [43] - Quote My apologies, Alesius, you're entirely correct.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 719	Posted - 2015.09.22 01:09:05 - [44] - Quote Shelby Dusette wrote: When I'm chillin', which is like a lot of the time, I always like listening to a lil Roc Wieler. I like rap too. Candi's an amateur rapper n' I sometimes listen to her at home. The more angry she gets the better it is. She can really cut some sick tunes n' dank beats yo. Roc Wieler! I knew I was forgetting something. It's his electronica. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Shelby Dusette Isogen 5 12710	Posted - 2015.09.22 09:21:01 - [45] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Shelby Dusette wrote: When I'm chillin', which is like a lot of the time, I always like listening to a lil Roc Wieler. I like rap too. Candi's an amateur rapper n' I sometimes listen to her at home. The more angry she gets the better it is. She can really cut some sick tunes n' dank beats yo. Roc Wieler! I knew I was forgetting something. It's his electronica. Yeah totally, it's soooo hot, Mista E. -ò-+-öGäô-¦-â pàñ pàñ -ò-â -+-â+¦-ò-é GÖÑ -ò-àc-+ -¦-Å+¦++-ö GÖÑ -+any l-ög+¦-â-+
Ria Nieyli Nieyli Enterprises 34493	Posted - 2015.09.22 14:32:01 - [46] - Quote I like to chill cloaked in ice belts. Why do bad threads happen to good people?
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 719	Posted - 2015.09.22 15:10:14 - [47] - Quote Ria Nieyli wrote: I like to chill cloaked in ice belts. And listen to the solar wind? Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Rauour Engil Rabies Inc. 13	Posted - 2015.09.26 20:36:49 - [48] - Quote Alesius Lerance wrote: Who are your favourites? No singer too small! If I really want to chill out I grab some of my friends and do a good two hour Vinyasa Mandala asana practice with pranayama and meditation at the end. For the asana practice I love putting things like this on and cranking it up until we're all lost in the flow... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNhXHpv18zM Some times we smoke some green before hand but that can go the wrong way and we just end up unable to do much at all

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