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Marlin Spikes EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 229	Posted - 2015.09.20 15:09:52 - [1] - Quote If you catch a war-target freighter on a gate, bring it to low structure, scan it and find it loaded up with goodies (large volume - fitted ships, etc.), AND you are able to negotiate a 2B ransom which is now sitting in your wallet.... Do you: A. Drop points and warp away B. Drop points and immediately re-engage (i.e., starting a new engagement with this individual) C. Kill him with fire and make fun of him in local D. Other (Please elaborate). I'm curious if there is such a thing as internet honor, or is space as dark as I hope it is? What a great way to start the morning, eh? LOL Bombers Rule!!!
Chelsea Dagger X Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 10	Posted - 2015.09.20 15:21:42 - [2] - Quote Drop points warp away.
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3605	Posted - 2015.09.20 15:26:12 - [3] - Quote Chelsea Dagger X wrote: Drop points warp away. I agree. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Ziirn Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 49	Posted - 2015.09.20 15:32:15 - [4] - Quote If a ransom have been agreed on I would let him go.
Chelsea Dagger X Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 11	Posted - 2015.09.20 15:37:04 - [5] - Quote Theres bound to be some idiot that thinks its funny to dishonour ransoms, tears are fun hurr hurr, but those people are just bads.
lmmortalist lmmortality Associates 68	Posted - 2015.09.20 15:37:46 - [6] - Quote Drop points and warp away. In case I happened to regret taking the ransom and killed him anyway, I'd return the 2 bil to him.
Gary Bell Herp Inc.dot Darwinism. 145	Posted - 2015.09.20 16:14:14 - [7] - Quote You all are lame get isk pop him then get more isk and pop pod If you miss pod set up disco for pod 2 jumps away Alt You drop points after isk has been sent Then set up disco to pop him on the way hightailing it back to highsec double the profit E Honor is for those who "Prefer the same sex"
Lord Razpataz Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 164	Posted - 2015.09.20 16:18:36 - [8] - Quote A. Drop points and warp away If you make a deal.. you keep to it.
admiral root Red Galaxy 3322	Posted - 2015.09.20 16:21:08 - [9] - Quote Gary Bell wrote: You all are lame get isk pop him then get more isk and pop pod If you miss pod set up disco for pod 2 jumps away Alt You drop points after isk has been sent Then set up disco to pop him on the way hightailing it back to highsec double the profit E Honor is for those who "Prefer the same sex" There's nothing like a witty troll and you're nothing like a witty troll. +1 for honouring ransoms. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff CODE. forum - everyone's welcome (no shiptoasters)
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3607	Posted - 2015.09.20 16:35:07 - [10] - Quote Gary Bell wrote: You all are lame get isk pop him then get more isk and pop pod If you miss pod set up disco for pod 2 jumps away Alt You drop points after isk has been sent Then set up disco to pop him on the way hightailing it back to highsec double the profit E Honor is for those who "Prefer the same sex" It's not about E honor. It's a business transaction. If I expect other to pay me boatloads of ISK, I'll honor the deal. Why didn't you tell me I preferred the same sex before I got married? May have saved me lots of money. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Starbuck05 Warmongering Space Invaders Criminal Intentions. 320	Posted - 2015.09.20 16:42:40 - [11] - Quote If I am in the merc bussiness, i'd honor ransoms If I am awoxing / safari-ing ... I don't honor ransoms And now i am a low sec scum pirate... I only honor ransoms if they really really wanna keep that ship..or does somethin to motivate me to honor it Guess it depends on the situation and the person..atleast thats my oppinion Just because i am blond does not make me stoooopid ! Warmongering space Invaders PvP corp looking for pilots ( Low Sec )
Mortlake Devils Rejects 666 674	Posted - 2015.09.20 17:09:32 - [12] - Quote Make it 3b and I'll drop my pants and warp around seductively.
Zeus Maximo Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 1039	Posted - 2015.09.20 17:48:07 - [13] - Quote Drop points warp away. "It is not possible either to trick or escape the mind of Zeus." U-MAD Membership Recruitment PoH Corporation Recruitment
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. 2024	Posted - 2015.09.20 18:24:28 - [14] - Quote Always honor ransoms. The real trick is getting me to agree too one Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Morgan Agrivar Happy Endings Massage Parlor 68	Posted - 2015.09.20 19:25:19 - [15] - Quote 4. Other. 2bn and they have to rap Vanilla Ice on teamspeak...and do it well. Then drop point and warp away...satisfied. "Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 11903	Posted - 2015.09.20 19:28:06 - [16] - Quote Honour the ransom, personally I wouldn't solicit one but if I did I would honour it. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
StonerPhReaK Herb Men 270	Posted - 2015.09.20 19:45:40 - [17] - Quote Honor the ransom. Tellem next time, when he see's you in local, just transfer the isk and save both of you time. Signature Removal in Progress, Estimated time of completion? Neva
Demerius Xenocratus Rapid Withdrawal 656	Posted - 2015.09.20 23:14:25 - [18] - Quote Ransoms are a neat element of the game that can make piracy financially viable, as opposed to taking a chance on the loot fairy. I feel they are an important part of the pirate play style, and the reason they are less common these days and people often refuse to pay is due to a long history of folks not honouring such bargains. I feel the piracy element of the game is better off when it becomes generally known that most pirates will honor ransoms. If you habitually negotiate ransoms and then kill the victim anyway, you really sort of ruin that option for others.
Jason Meciute Dark Crown Inc 0	Posted - 2015.09.21 00:18:30 - [19] - Quote C. Kill him with fire and make fun of him in local
Mephiztopheleze Republic University Minmatar Republic 175	Posted - 2015.09.21 02:10:18 - [20] - Quote Chelsea Dagger X wrote: Drop points warp away. +1. Ransoms should always be honoured. Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

ISD FlowingSpice SYAD 26	Posted - 2015.09.21 03:58:13 - [21] - Quote Cleaned up a post. Play nice.
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3615	Posted - 2015.09.21 04:54:27 - [22] - Quote ISD FlowingSpice wrote: Cleaned up a post. Play nice. I'm confused... Where did CCL go? Reorg? Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. 2024	Posted - 2015.09.21 05:54:49 - [23] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: ISD FlowingSpice wrote: Cleaned up a post. Play nice. I'm confused... Where did CCL go? Reorg? Who is CCL? Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
admiral root Red Galaxy 3326	Posted - 2015.09.21 06:23:55 - [24] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Leto Thule wrote: ISD FlowingSpice wrote: Cleaned up a post. Play nice. I'm confused... Where did CCL go? Reorg? Who is CCL? Our beloved forum ISD team. These other cats are cross-training according to a post from a month or two back. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff CODE. forum - everyone's welcome (no shiptoasters)
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. 2024	Posted - 2015.09.21 06:50:38 - [25] - Quote admiral root wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Leto Thule wrote: ISD FlowingSpice wrote: Cleaned up a post. Play nice. I'm confused... Where did CCL go? Reorg? Who is CCL? Our beloved forum ISD team. These other cats are cross-training according to a post from a month or two back. I've been so outta forum stuff cause reasons. Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Dato Koppla Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary 892	Posted - 2015.09.21 07:48:36 - [26] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Gary Bell wrote: You all are lame get isk pop him then get more isk and pop pod If you miss pod set up disco for pod 2 jumps away Alt You drop points after isk has been sent Then set up disco to pop him on the way hightailing it back to highsec double the profit E Honor is for those who "Prefer the same sex" It's not about E honor. It's a business transaction. If I expect other to pay me boatloads of ISK, I'll honor the deal. Why didn't you tell me I preferred the same sex before I got married? May have saved me lots of money. I do agree with honouring ransoms but thinking of it as a business transaction is foolish. In a business transaction there is some kind of leverage or something that guarantees the transaction. In a ransom the other party is powerless and ransomer can do as he pleases with no repercussions whatsoever except for.........wait for it........E-Honor. So it is infact, all about E-Honor. I don't do ransoms anymore despite being a pirate though. I used to ransom pods when I first started out but the whole ransoming culture in pirates in eve has died down especially in lowsec. Nowadays if you hold someones pod for the ransom, they are busy unplugging all their implants while you negotiate since nobody expects their pod to live after getting pointed anymore. However it isn't completely dead. Check out Zarvox Toral (spelling?) on reddit/twitch/eve. He managed to ransom an Anshar in a belt in nullsec while flying a Comet despite not even having enough ammo to kill him. The mere threat was enough for the Anshar pilot to pay him a couple bill.
Switch Savage The Tuskers The Tuskers Co. 191	Posted - 2015.09.21 09:31:07 - [27] - Quote I'll try ransom anything if the situation permits. Even tried ransoming an Algos other day but he was not having any of it :D
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Black Hydra Consortium. 2004	Posted - 2015.09.21 10:29:29 - [28] - Quote Mortlake wrote: Make it 3b and I'll drop my pants and warp around seductively. heads off to find some isk for Mort. Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information. BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie's Space Mediation Service!
Ro Fenrios Armilies Corporation 112	Posted - 2015.09.21 11:11:31 - [29] - Quote Always honor ransoms.
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 2737	Posted - 2015.09.21 11:26:45 - [30] - Quote A. Drop points and warp away - My word is worth more then any amount of isks. DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. 2026	Posted - 2015.09.21 11:39:31 - [31] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Always honor ransoms. The real trick is getting me to agree too one To follow up on this if I say 1bil isk and you give me 300mil isk the 300 is a donation if you cant come up with the other 700 Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2599	Posted - 2015.09.21 11:50:19 - [32] - Quote If the ransom has been offered, agreed upon, and paid... you honor the deal. It's just good customer service, as there may be a day when you have them in the same position again. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
ISD FlowingSpice SYAD 28	Posted - 2015.09.21 12:07:55 - [33] - Quote admiral root wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Leto Thule wrote: ISD FlowingSpice wrote: Cleaned up a post. Play nice. I'm confused... Where did CCL go? Reorg? Who is CCL? Our beloved forum ISD team. These other cats are cross-training according to a post from a month or two back. We're totally not trying to usurp the CCL team. Promice. ;) Crosstraining has been a thing for many years. Just so happens that a few ISDs decided to try their hand at CCL work around the same time.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. 2027	Posted - 2015.09.21 12:20:11 - [34] - Quote ISD FlowingSpice wrote: admiral root wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Leto Thule wrote: ISD FlowingSpice wrote: Cleaned up a post. Play nice. I'm confused... Where did CCL go? Reorg? Who is CCL? Our beloved forum ISD team. These other cats are cross-training according to a post from a month or two back. We're totally not trying to usurp the CCL team. Promice. ;) Crosstraining has been a thing for many years. Just so happens that a few ISDs decided to try their hand at CCL work around the same time. Wait we have forum politics now too??? Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 2739	Posted - 2015.09.21 14:38:44 - [35] - Quote As long as they're not cross dressing and posting pictures, it's all fine by me. DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Mag's the united 20213	Posted - 2015.09.21 14:44:56 - [36] - Quote Chelsea Dagger X wrote: Drop points warp away. This. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. 2028	Posted - 2015.09.21 14:45:04 - [37] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: As long as they're not cross dressing and posting pictures, it's all fine by me. This does not fit in with next months swimsuit comp. Just saying Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Lan Wang V I R I I Ineluctable. 1532	Posted - 2015.09.21 15:08:42 - [38] - Quote honor ransoms and also honor 1v1's EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding \| Digital Design
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2566	Posted - 2015.09.21 16:04:24 - [39] - Quote I don't often ransom ships, but when I do I honor the ransom. Stay thirsty my friends.... Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Amyclas Amatin SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation 691	Posted - 2015.09.21 16:34:15 - [40] - Quote Ah, but if you catch a goon, will you still bother to try ransoming them before they drop supers on you? For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"

Saeger1737 Bite the pillow The Pursuit of Happiness 1134	Posted - 2015.09.21 18:21:05 - [41] - Quote Nuke and loot And then pod him if he got lippy
Selusa Secundus Bite the pillow The Pursuit of Happiness 4	Posted - 2015.09.21 22:16:25 - [42] - Quote I flip a coin.
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3619	Posted - 2015.09.21 22:36:47 - [43] - Quote Dato Koppla wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Gary Bell wrote: You all are lame get isk pop him then get more isk and pop pod If you miss pod set up disco for pod 2 jumps away Alt You drop points after isk has been sent Then set up disco to pop him on the way hightailing it back to highsec double the profit E Honor is for those who "Prefer the same sex" It's not about E honor. It's a business transaction. If I expect other to pay me boatloads of ISK, I'll honor the deal. Why didn't you tell me I preferred the same sex before I got married? May have saved me lots of money. I do agree with honouring ransoms but thinking of it as a business transaction is foolish. In a business transaction there is some kind of leverage or something that guarantees the transaction. In a ransom the other party is powerless and ransomer can do as he pleases with no repercussions whatsoever except for.........wait for it........E-Honor. So it is infact, all about E-Honor. I don't do ransoms anymore despite being a pirate though. I used to ransom pods when I first started out but the whole ransoming culture in pirates in eve has died down especially in lowsec. Nowadays if you hold someones pod for the ransom, they are busy unplugging all their implants while you negotiate since nobody expects their pod to live after getting pointed anymore. However it isn't completely dead. Check out Zarvox Toral (spelling?) on reddit/twitch/eve. He managed to ransom an Anshar in a belt in nullsec while flying a Comet despite not even having enough ammo to kill him. The mere threat was enough for the Anshar pilot to pay him a couple bill. No, you shitehawk, its not foolish. If I want to think of it as a business transaction its a ******* business transaction. How much more leverage do you need? I don't do it for honor, I do it to make money. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Mary Jaine Blades Of Athena DropBear Sanctuary 0	Posted - 2015.09.21 23:49:27 - [44] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: If the ransom has been offered, agreed upon, and paid... you honor the deal. It's just good customer service, as there may be a day when you have them in the same position again. Gotta agree with this.
Marlin Spikes EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 230	Posted - 2015.09.22 00:13:50 - [45] - Quote LOL. thanks everyone for their input. I love these posts. Here's my answer. The following are all appropriate depending on the circumstances: A. Drop points and warp away B. Drop points and immediately re-engage (i.e., starting a new engagement with this individual) C. Kill him with fire and make fun of him in local the correct answer depends on how the target reacts/behaves. If they are maintaining a good attitude (i.e., this is just a game), honor the deal. If they seem to be trying to pull a fast one, don't feel sorry for them. When we recently grabbed a providence, we decided to let him go (i.e., Drop Points and warp away), but there was a part of me that felt really strange dropping that point. After we warped away, I convo'd the providence pilot, "Never pay ransoms. Most people will not honor them. You got lucky that the four of us play nice." I'm glad to see that others are honoring the ransoms. My advice to those being ransomed: "Die with pride!" Let the loot fairy sort the details. Bombers Rule!!!
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. 2030	Posted - 2015.09.22 00:16:25 - [46] - Quote Mary Jaine wrote: Omar Alharazaad wrote: If the ransom has been offered, agreed upon, and paid... you honor the deal. It's just good customer service, as there may be a day when you have them in the same position again. Gotta agree with this. I once ransomed the same RNI in the same week for 750 a pop each time. The first he wasn't so keen but paid. The second it took me a total of 10 seconds to get the isk. I always honor cause repeat customers are the best Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Valkin Mordirc 1498	Posted - 2015.09.22 03:02:04 - [47] - Quote It depends on the Target. If he's being on overall douche bag, I wouldn't honor the Ransom. But if he acts like normal person. I would happily let him go. `#DeleteTheWeak`
Dato Koppla Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary 894	Posted - 2015.09.22 04:00:23 - [48] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Dato Koppla wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Gary Bell wrote: You all are lame get isk pop him then get more isk and pop pod If you miss pod set up disco for pod 2 jumps away Alt You drop points after isk has been sent Then set up disco to pop him on the way hightailing it back to highsec double the profit E Honor is for those who "Prefer the same sex" It's not about E honor. It's a business transaction. If I expect other to pay me boatloads of ISK, I'll honor the deal. Why didn't you tell me I preferred the same sex before I got married? May have saved me lots of money. I do agree with honouring ransoms but thinking of it as a business transaction is foolish. In a business transaction there is some kind of leverage or something that guarantees the transaction. In a ransom the other party is powerless and ransomer can do as he pleases with no repercussions whatsoever except for.........wait for it........E-Honor. So it is infact, all about E-Honor. I don't do ransoms anymore despite being a pirate though. I used to ransom pods when I first started out but the whole ransoming culture in pirates in eve has died down especially in lowsec. Nowadays if you hold someones pod for the ransom, they are busy unplugging all their implants while you negotiate since nobody expects their pod to live after getting pointed anymore. However it isn't completely dead. Check out Zarvox Toral (spelling?) on reddit/twitch/eve. He managed to ransom an Anshar in a belt in nullsec while flying a Comet despite not even having enough ammo to kill him. The mere threat was enough for the Anshar pilot to pay him a couple bill. No, you shitehawk, its not foolish. If I want to think of it as a business transaction its a ******* business transaction. How much more leverage do you need? I don't do it for honor, I do it to make money. How is killing them after you get your money not making you money? Cause that's what we're talking about, not the question if they pay you or not. They pay you, your money is made, you can now warp away with your money, or kill them, still with your money in tact. So the reason you warp away is your E-Honor not because you do it to make money. Now of course not honouring your ransom will give you a reputation so the same person isn't going to pay twice, but Eve is massive, the likelihood of catching the same person for ransom again is highly unlikely, catching someone who has heard about your reputation for not honouring ransoms is even less likely. I didn't think my point was hard to understand but apparently you're on a new level of stupid that I couldn't anticipate.
Faylee Freir Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 147	Posted - 2015.09.22 04:42:39 - [49] - Quote Very rarely do I honor ransoms. I like it this way. I've found that even if I had intentions of honoring it, people would be just as hesitant to trust... So if you can't beat 'em, join em'. No amount of people honoring ransoms is going to negate the negative stigma associated with ransoms. HTFU
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3619	Posted - 2015.09.22 05:11:31 - [50] - Quote Dato Koppla wrote: I didn't think my point was hard to understand but apparently you're on a new level of stupid that I couldn't anticipate. Awww. Peaches..... Don't say that we both know you don't mean it. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Valkin Mordirc 1500	Posted - 2015.09.22 06:08:56 - [51] - Quote Quote: So the reason you warp away is your E-Honor not because you do it to make money. Now of course not honouring your ransom will give you a reputation so the same person isn't going to pay twice, but Eve is massive, the likelihood of catching the same person for ransom again is highly unlikely, catching someone who has heard about your reputation for not honouring ransoms is even less likely. On a peer to peer basis yeah your right. But for Mercenaries. Honoring ransom's and surrender's helps build relations, not only opening new opportunities but word will spread. `#DeleteTheWeak`
Dato Koppla Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary 895	Posted - 2015.09.22 08:50:07 - [52] - Quote Valkin Mordirc wrote: Quote: So the reason you warp away is your E-Honor not because you do it to make money. Now of course not honouring your ransom will give you a reputation so the same person isn't going to pay twice, but Eve is massive, the likelihood of catching the same person for ransom again is highly unlikely, catching someone who has heard about your reputation for not honouring ransoms is even less likely. On a peer to peer basis yeah your right. But for Mercenaries. Honoring ransom's and surrender's helps build relations, not only opening new opportunities but word will spread. That may be true. However I've never really seen any legit 'mercenaries' in Eve that fit the definition most people imagine. 90% of the 'mercenary' work in Eve is tradehub camping or some other form of camping like camping an enemy chokepoint. The other 10% is helping bash/defend poses/assets of groups that are incredibly weak to start with. Almost no mercs will take on a legit PvP corp for you even if the mercs have far more numbers/resources.
Mortlake Devils Rejects 666 691	Posted - 2015.09.22 10:41:39 - [53] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Tora Bushido wrote: As long as they're not cross dressing and posting pictures, it's all fine by me. This does not fit in with next months swimsuit comp. Just saying Another swimsuit comp? SQUEEEEEEE3EE!!1! <3 :3 Not excited at all but I''ll take manip requests now.
Fybs Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective 444	Posted - 2015.09.22 12:09:11 - [54] - Quote Mortlake wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Tora Bushido wrote: As long as they're not cross dressing and posting pictures, it's all fine by me. This does not fit in with next months swimsuit comp. Just saying Another swimsuit comp? SQUEEEEEEE3EE!!1! <3 :3 Not excited at all but I''ll take manip requests now. Can I get a sneak preview before anyone else? Don't confuse kindness with weakness. Beware the hand of Fybs. Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1432	Posted - 2015.09.22 12:09:16 - [55] - Quote Well, OP's original post is abit confuzzling. I honor ransom's, but if it's a wartarget......I usually don't bother to ask for one. Especially since I tell all my wartargets that for X amount of ISK (surrender offer) I will drop the dec and go away. As for repeat customers, I once found a guy who loved to do L4's in lowsec in his Navy Apoc. Being I was in mah Ishkur of Freaking Awesome, shenanigans occured. I asked for ransom, he paid me, I left. He kinda freaked out, but it was funny. About the same time next week, I find him in the same system, jumped him, he paid me again. I left again. Week after that, as soon as I showed up in local he just offered to pay me a weekly tribute to leave him alone, which I accepted, of course. So honoring the ransom does have its upside. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3620	Posted - 2015.09.22 12:27:21 - [56] - Quote Dato Koppla wrote: Valkin Mordirc wrote: Quote: So the reason you warp away is your E-Honor not because you do it to make money. Now of course not honouring your ransom will give you a reputation so the same person isn't going to pay twice, but Eve is massive, the likelihood of catching the same person for ransom again is highly unlikely, catching someone who has heard about your reputation for not honouring ransoms is even less likely. On a peer to peer basis yeah your right. But for Mercenaries. Honoring ransom's and surrender's helps build relations, not only opening new opportunities but word will spread. That may be true. However I've never really seen any legit 'mercenaries' in Eve that fit the definition most people imagine. 90% of the 'mercenary' work in Eve is tradehub camping or some other form of camping like camping an enemy chokepoint. The other 10% is helping bash/defend poses/assets of groups that are incredibly weak to start with. Almost no mercs will take on a legit PvP corp for you even if the mercs have far more numbers/resources. Oh god. I see this shitehawk made a new nest. A "mercenary" is someone that you hire to fight a battle that you either can't or won't. Sitting on trade hubs killing people who are too daft to use an alt during a dec is STILL a mercenary. You should write a dictionary, since you seem intent on defining things for others, peaches. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3209	Posted - 2015.09.22 14:33:51 - [57] - Quote War targets are war targets. It's is a moral imperative that they be made to suffer the maximum loss you can inflict. If that was not the case you wouldnt be at war with them. Situations other than warfare are at your discretion. Wars are not the place to pull punches.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2578	Posted - 2015.09.22 14:44:04 - [58] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: War targets are war targets. It's is a moral imperative that they be made to suffer the maximum loss you can inflict. If that was not the case you wouldnt be at war with them. Situations other than warfare are at your discretion. Wars are not the place to pull punches. If I'm in losec or catch someone stupid in a flagging game in hisec, I'll try to ransom them. I most likely have no particular grievance with them and I'll just as gladly take ISK over a kill. But if I've bothered wardeccing someone (or someone has bothered to wardec me), I'm not interested in their ISK, I'm only interested in seeing their stuff violenced. I won't offer or accept any ransom offers from war targets. Surrender offers, yes, depending on the circumstances, but usually only after some stuff has been violenced. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Borg Alexandra Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance 0	Posted - 2015.09.22 17:34:26 - [59] - Quote Every 'merc' corps 'honor' ransoms. Err... 'honors' PS. No they dont.
Mortlake Devils Rejects 666 695	Posted - 2015.09.22 18:20:27 - [60] - Quote Borg Alexandra wrote: Every 'merc' corps 'honor' ransoms. Err... 'honors' PS. No they dont. If you wanted a glass of brain, you only had to ask.

Avi Shekelstien New Order Logistics CODE. 33	Posted - 2015.09.22 22:11:53 - [61] - Quote Shoot them all and let the saviour sort them out.
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3624	Posted - 2015.09.23 00:14:07 - [62] - Quote Dato Koppla wrote: I am a shitehawk Dude, we know. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
W0lf Crendraven Welfcorp 351	Posted - 2015.09.23 00:30:19 - [63] - Quote Whenever you dont honor ransoms you are beeing a douche to all fellow priates in eve, the target will never pay up again. Dont be a douche - honour ransoms.
Dato Koppla Kiwis In Space No Points Necessary 895	Posted - 2015.09.23 03:29:49 - [64] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Dato Koppla wrote: Valkin Mordirc wrote: Quote: So the reason you warp away is your E-Honor not because you do it to make money. Now of course not honouring your ransom will give you a reputation so the same person isn't going to pay twice, but Eve is massive, the likelihood of catching the same person for ransom again is highly unlikely, catching someone who has heard about your reputation for not honouring ransoms is even less likely. On a peer to peer basis yeah your right. But for Mercenaries. Honoring ransom's and surrender's helps build relations, not only opening new opportunities but word will spread. That may be true. However I've never really seen any legit 'mercenaries' in Eve that fit the definition most people imagine. 90% of the 'mercenary' work in Eve is tradehub camping or some other form of camping like camping an enemy chokepoint. The other 10% is helping bash/defend poses/assets of groups that are incredibly weak to start with. Almost no mercs will take on a legit PvP corp for you even if the mercs have far more numbers/resources. Oh god. I see this shitehawk made a new nest. A "mercenary" is someone that you hire to fight a battle that you either can't or won't. Sitting on trade hubs killing people who are too daft to use an alt during a dec is STILL a mercenary. You should write a dictionary, since you seem intent on defining things for others, peaches. It was in the context that 'honoring ransoms helps build relations'. What ransoms are people like Marmite honoring that builds their reputation for people to hire them? None. People hire them simply because they camp tradehubs well. They built their reputation on honoring contracts (if you pay them they won't run with the money, they'll wardec whoever you ask and sit outside tradehubs like they usually do). However since groups like Marmite don't actually do much (if any) actual fighting, there are no real chances to ransom anyone.
Don Purple KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1314	Posted - 2015.09.23 06:14:32 - [65] - Quote Murder him after the ransom then recruit him and do it again. Lost count of mission runners I have done this with. Snuggles. I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3626	Posted - 2015.09.23 12:16:55 - [66] - Quote Dato Koppla wrote: ] It was in the context that 'honoring ransoms helps build relations'. What ransoms are people like Marmite honoring that builds their reputation for people to hire them? None. People hire them simply because they camp tradehubs well. They built their reputation on honoring contracts (if you pay them they won't run with the money, they'll wardec whoever you ask and sit outside tradehubs like they usually do). However since groups like Marmite don't actually do much (if any) actual fighting, there are no real chances to ransom anyone. Obviously the one that the OP conducted? Since Marlin is currently a member of marmite. Caught a juicy target off gate, offered a ransom to let em go, got paid. Now, this is where it gets complicated. Pay close attention. If the NEXT PERSON gets caught, and they already know OP honored the ransom before, they have a higher likelyhood of risking to pay it, because OP has demonstrated they can be trusted. Do you see? Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2604	Posted - 2015.09.23 13:03:54 - [67] - Quote Also if you tend to lurk in a specific constellation for an extended period of time you are going to cross paths with other locals periodically. Many folks get set into their ways, put down roots, or just hang out in an area because it offers them something that they really want/need. As such you're gonna get quite a few pilots crossing your path who are not gonna leave the area unless given a solid reason to do so. This does kind of create an environment where you encounter repeat customers from time to time... the rep you've built with them directly affects your chances of getting paid for being dastardly, rather than having to suffer the tender mercies of the loot fairy. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3210	Posted - 2015.09.23 13:39:44 - [68] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: If I'm in losec or catch someone stupid in a flagging game in hisec, I'll try to ransom them. I most likely have no particular grievance with them and I'll just as gladly take ISK over a kill. But if I've bothered wardeccing someone (or someone has bothered to wardec me), I'm not interested in their ISK, I'm only interested in seeing their stuff violenced. I won't offer or accept any ransom offers from war targets. Surrender offers, yes, depending on the circumstances, but usually only after some stuff has been violenced. That is entirely my point. Wars are rarely coincidental. If someone in my alliance has pushed the button on somebody that means those people need to suffer as much loss as possible for some rEason (or a specific loss if structure are involved). If it's a war of vendetta or a holy war then I owe it to the alliance mate that declared the war to inflict as much damage as possible, if it's a contract I owe it to the client to do the same. To let a caught target go for a bribe would be unprofessional as a mercenary and disrespectful as an alliance member. Unless intentionally letting a war target get away enables some grander scheme it's totally unacceptable. Outside of wars people can do what the hell they will. Although you have to kill all members of the Caldari militia, maximum screws are to be applied to their nuts at every opportunity.
Saeger1737 Bite the pillow The Pursuit of Happiness 1135	Posted - 2015.09.23 17:16:23 - [69] - Quote Sometimes ransoming the guy leads to him calling back up and leads to an out numbered situation,. This is why we always nuke and loot, he still pays the ransom, but I'm getting that kill either way. All my ransoms fund more wars, if your flying a freighter during a war, your stupid and should die in a fire, running missions in a shiny ship die in a fire... All ends the same way. Shouldn't cry at the end of the day when this game is built on risk, mistrust and violence, just rejoice in the experience.
Marlin Spikes EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 234	Posted - 2015.09.23 19:15:26 - [70] - Quote I don't speak for any alliance or merc group, but personally, if I'm at war, my job is to harass, gank, stalk, disrupt, ransom, extort, torment, grief, etc. Anything that makes the war-targets miserable is fair game. PVP is just one aspect of war. Mental anguish, hopelessness, and tears are all a part of a wardec. If I removed 2B from a War target's wallet, would the client be happy? I think they would. Whether that 2B was in ships or isk, the result is the same. Bombers Rule!!!

Morgan Agrivar Happy Endings Massage Parlor 72	Posted - 2015.09.23 20:07:54 - [71] - Quote Oh it if is a war target, all bets are off. I would do the maximum amount of hurt I could possibly do to the best of my ability to completely ruin their day. A neutral that you catch (in low, null or WH) is a different story altogether. "Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
Moon Moon Burdy Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 54	Posted - 2015.09.23 20:55:46 - [72] - Quote I'm confused. Why are you offering ransoms for wartargets? I think a "contact our diplomat for surrender terms" would be more appropriate, is it not? Things that went boom Storytime with Moon Moon Promising Young Murderer, Education Appreciated.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 11977	Posted - 2015.09.23 21:22:27 - [73] - Quote Moon Moon Burdy wrote: I'm confused. Why are you offering ransoms for wartargets? I think a "contact our diplomat for surrender terms" would be more appropriate, is it not? I think why is besides the point here, I agree with you mind ( I wouldn't solicit a ransom from a war target either) But once one has been agreed upon (regardless of being a war target or not) it should be honoured. Same for 1v1s , if it's agreed upon , you honour it. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Moon Moon Burdy Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 56	Posted - 2015.09.23 22:30:24 - [74] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: I think why is besides the point here, I agree with you mind ( I wouldn't solicit a ransom from a war target either) But once one has been agreed upon (regardless of being a war target or not) it should be honoured. Same for 1v1s , if it's agreed upon , you honour it. Right. That's a matter of integrity, which is of paramount importance. In considering the question I was putting myself in the position of the ransom offerer and wondered what circumstance would put me in this place, that being offering a wartarget a ransom. I would like to offer wartargets some antimatter cuddles, not ransoms. But once a deal is made, a deal is a deal. So let it be written, so let it be done. To the bored mission runners whom I bring content for: I will honor ransom requests, if the price is right, but you will need to get my attention as I'll likely be distracted by the lovely way the antimatter sparks as you enter structure. It's dazzling. Things that went boom Storytime with Moon Moon Promising Young Murderer, Education Appreciated.
Faylee Freir Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 147	Posted - 2015.09.23 23:05:28 - [75] - Quote Nah, this is all wrong... Eve is all about choices, and I happen to be a well-qualified instructor in the field of poor judgement and coping with immense loss. These are all very important things in Eve and I must keep the circle of life going in order to uphold the sanctity of HTFU. We're playing a really bad internet spaceship game that is well known for its deceit, destruction, and lag-infested battles. It should be no surprise when someone takes advantage of the way EVE can be played. I don't think any less of those that have a "code" or some sort of e-honor, but eve is all about trust and how it's abused. Don't shove your e-bushido on me and say I'm the reason no one pays ransoms, as there are so many factors that go into if a ransom should be paid and who is holding all the power. When I have a 12b jump freighter bumped and I start dunking, I hold all the power. If I can give him what he thinks is a way out for a measly 1b, you bet your ass he will want to start discussing ransoms. "Give them nothing! But take from them everything!" - King Leonidas (300) HTFU
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 1596	Posted - 2015.09.25 10:54:21 - [76] - Quote Every ransom is just a test. If they pay they try to bribe an official law officer and how would that look if I then let him go? No sir, he has to die. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3213	Posted - 2015.09.25 11:17:50 - [77] - Quote And the isk is confiscated as evidence.
Syeed Ameer Ali Evil Murder Society 3	Posted - 2015.09.25 13:10:09 - [78] - Quote Attempt to convince him to eject and come back in a rookie ship to give you a trophy kill so you can pad your killboard. While he is off grid have a friend steal the freighter. When he gets back, kill and pod him, then make fun of him in local. The notion that honoring ransoms makes more people willing to pay them is fallacious. everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Aldeskwatso Highsec Heroes Indecent Exposure Alliance 49	Posted - 2015.09.25 13:16:45 - [79] - Quote It would depend on the person, his corp/alliance, the reason or purpose for the war and how it's been going so far. But overall I'm inclined to honor an agreement if terms and conditions have been met. To not do so is savagery and not very gentlemanlike. The biggest obstacle you'll encounter doing anything is yourself.
Carrie-Anne Moss The Scope Gallente Federation 431	Posted - 2015.09.25 20:27:54 - [80] - Quote You guys sicken me HTFU Dude if you get an orca in structure and ransom him for 250mill then pop him. GET POD then laugh HE WONT TELL ANYONE. IF HE DOES IT WONT IMPACT ANY FUTURE RANSOMS We are deeling with idiot carebears guys. The "dont kill all thw fish so they can grow next season" arguement is Weak cuz there are thousands and thousands of idiot carebears. I literally have quotes in my bios of my toons like "omg you blew me up after you promised to stop" and "dude we had a deal why you kill me?!" And... they... still... pay... I hope you guys are just lying to save face. WTF IS PSYCHOTIC MONK WHEN YOU NEED HIM.???? ALWAYS DISHONOR RANSOM FOR MAX ISK PODKILLS AND TEARS

Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3636	Posted - 2015.09.26 05:11:33 - [81] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: You guys sicken me HTFU Dude if you get an orca in structure and ransom him for 250mill then pop him. GET POD then laugh HE WONT TELL ANYONE. IF HE DOES IT WONT IMPACT ANY FUTURE RANSOMS We are deeling with idiot carebears guys. The "dont kill all thw fish so they can grow next season" arguement is Weak cuz there are thousands and thousands of idiot carebears. I literally have quotes in my bios of my toons like "omg you blew me up after you promised to stop" and "dude we had a deal why you kill me?!" And... they... still... pay... I hope you guys are just lying to save face. WTF IS PSYCHOTIC MONK WHEN YOU NEED HIM.???? ALWAYS DISHONOR RANSOM FOR MAX ISK PODKILLS AND TEARS Go away, nobody likes you. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Carrie-Anne Moss The Scope Gallente Federation 432	Posted - 2015.09.26 14:02:15 - [82] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: You guys sicken me HTFU Dude if you get an orca in structure and ransom him for 250mill then pop him. GET POD then laugh HE WONT TELL ANYONE. IF HE DOES IT WONT IMPACT ANY FUTURE RANSOMS We are deeling with idiot carebears guys. The "dont kill all thw fish so they can grow next season" arguement is Weak cuz there are thousands and thousands of idiot carebears. I literally have quotes in my bios of my toons like "omg you blew me up after you promised to stop" and "dude we had a deal why you kill me?!" And... they... still... pay... I hope you guys are just lying to save face. WTF IS PSYCHOTIC MONK WHEN YOU NEED HIM.???? ALWAYS DISHONOR RANSOM FOR MAX ISK PODKILLS AND TEARS Go away, nobody likes you. I will go away from C&P forum FOREVER if someone here sends me 25 million isk. I PROMISE i will never post in this forum ever again. Dont want to be greedy so only asking for 25mill. I always honor things like this and need to keep my word because it is how i make my living. I can give you 5 references that will back what i say up. You can trust me friend.
Bellatrix Invicta New Order Logistics CODE. 586	Posted - 2015.09.26 15:49:17 - [83] - Quote It's worth it to try. If you think you've won, think again. The CODE always wins.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. 2044	Posted - 2015.09.26 17:10:44 - [84] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: You guys sicken me HTFU Dude if you get an orca in structure and ransom him for 250mill then pop him. GET POD then laugh HE WONT TELL ANYONE. IF HE DOES IT WONT IMPACT ANY FUTURE RANSOMS We are deeling with idiot carebears guys. The "dont kill all thw fish so they can grow next season" arguement is Weak cuz there are thousands and thousands of idiot carebears. I literally have quotes in my bios of my toons like "omg you blew me up after you promised to stop" and "dude we had a deal why you kill me?!" And... they... still... pay... I hope you guys are just lying to save face. WTF IS PSYCHOTIC MONK WHEN YOU NEED HIM.???? ALWAYS DISHONOR RANSOM FOR MAX ISK PODKILLS AND TEARS Go away, nobody likes you. I will go away from C&P forum FOREVER if someone here sends me 25 million isk. I PROMISE i will never post in this forum ever again. Dont want to be greedy so only asking for 25mill. I always honor things like this and need to keep my word because it is how i make my living. I can give you 5 references that will back what i say up. You can trust me friend. Would all 5 of these references also happen to be the same 'friends' you so often post about? Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3638	Posted - 2015.09.26 20:00:12 - [85] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: You guys sicken me HTFU Dude if you get an orca in structure and ransom him for 250mill then pop him. GET POD then laugh HE WONT TELL ANYONE. IF HE DOES IT WONT IMPACT ANY FUTURE RANSOMS We are deeling with idiot carebears guys. The "dont kill all thw fish so they can grow next season" arguement is Weak cuz there are thousands and thousands of idiot carebears. I literally have quotes in my bios of my toons like "omg you blew me up after you promised to stop" and "dude we had a deal why you kill me?!" And... they... still... pay... I hope you guys are just lying to save face. WTF IS PSYCHOTIC MONK WHEN YOU NEED HIM.???? ALWAYS DISHONOR RANSOM FOR MAX ISK PODKILLS AND TEARS Go away, nobody likes you. I will go away from C&P forum FOREVER if someone here sends me 25 million isk. I PROMISE i will never post in this forum ever again. Dont want to be greedy so only asking for 25mill. I always honor things like this and need to keep my word because it is how i make my living. I can give you 5 references that will back what i say up. You can trust me friend. Why pay you? I don't give the panhandlers any money and nobody likes them either. Your posting is terrible and not even on the "heh I chuckled a little at that". Holeysheet1 is a far, far better forum participant that you. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Archeras Umangiar Guardians of the Galaxy Holdings Guardians of the Galaxy. 21	Posted - 2015.09.26 20:12:41 - [86] - Quote Since when do ransom get honored? i feel bad now ;(
Morgan Agrivar Happy Endings Massage Parlor 75	Posted - 2015.09.27 00:28:38 - [87] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: You guys sicken me HTFU Dude if you get an orca in structure and ransom him for 250mill then pop him. GET POD then laugh HE WONT TELL ANYONE. IF HE DOES IT WONT IMPACT ANY FUTURE RANSOMS We are deeling with idiot carebears guys. The "dont kill all thw fish so they can grow next season" arguement is Weak cuz there are thousands and thousands of idiot carebears. I literally have quotes in my bios of my toons like "omg you blew me up after you promised to stop" and "dude we had a deal why you kill me?!" And... they... still... pay... I hope you guys are just lying to save face. WTF IS PSYCHOTIC MONK WHEN YOU NEED HIM.???? ALWAYS DISHONOR RANSOM FOR MAX ISK PODKILLS AND TEARS Go away, nobody likes you. I will go away from C&P forum FOREVER if someone here sends me 25 million isk. I PROMISE i will never post in this forum ever again. Dont want to be greedy so only asking for 25mill. I always honor things like this and need to keep my word because it is how i make my living. I can give you 5 references that will back what i say up. You can trust me friend. Why pay you? I don't give the panhandlers any money and nobody likes them either. Your posting is terrible and not even on the "heh I chuckled a little at that". Holeysheet1 is a far, far better forum participant that you. Oh snap, son. Someone just got played, yo. "Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
Seraph IX Basarab Angry Dragons Psychotic Tendencies. 708	Posted - 2015.09.27 03:04:48 - [88] - Quote Chelsea Dagger X wrote: Drop points warp away. This. Has nothing to do with "Internet honor" it has to do with economics and reputation. Once you can establish yourself as dangerous but trustworthy, you won't even need to point anyone. House of Black and White An ingame channel dedicated to more interesting ways to play
Marlin Spikes EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 236	Posted - 2015.09.27 11:39:55 - [89] - Quote What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets? Or are you saying that when I'm ready, I won't have to.? Bombers Rule!!!
Seraph IX Basarab Angry Dragons Psychotic Tendencies. 709	Posted - 2015.09.27 22:48:58 - [90] - Quote Marlin Spikes wrote: What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets? Or are you saying that when I'm ready, I won't have to.? Yes. House of Black and White An ingame channel dedicated to more interesting ways to play

Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 12092	Posted - 2015.09.28 01:23:33 - [91] - Quote Seraph IX Basarab wrote: reputation. Salient point right there. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Sabriz Adoudel Black Hydra Consortium. 5374	Posted - 2015.09.28 01:39:49 - [92] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Holeysheet1 is a far, far better forum participant that you. Shots fired. As harsh as using sandpaper as toilet paper. I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
412nv Yaken The Conference Elite CODE. 318	Posted - 2015.09.28 06:40:38 - [93] - Quote Giving he isnt low low hull, as such the ship would explode, I would bring a friend and need to start the negotiating again because the terms had changed I would re-negotiate with him saying that he will need to eject from his freighter and i will return 1 bil now 1 later (hedging my bets as such) When he ejects, I would pod him straight away, have friend jump into said freighter and now I have 1 Bil+pod mail+freighter+all the loot To all the carebears saying drop points and warp away, these are obviously highsec carebears and should get a permit. A True Champion of High Security Space
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3660	Posted - 2015.09.28 09:13:57 - [94] - Quote 412nv Yaken wrote: To all the carebears saying drop points and warp away, these are obviously highsec carebears and should get a permit. Crap, Im a carebear? Damn it. I best go buy a golem, fit some purple on it, and go grind missions. Thanks a lot. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Lan Wang V I R I I Ineluctable. 1561	Posted - 2015.09.28 09:17:44 - [95] - Quote 412nv Yaken wrote: To all the carebears saying drop points and warp away, these are obviously highsec carebears and should get a permit. sounds a bit hypocritical coming from a highsec alliance who interact with npc's more than actual players :) EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding \| Digital Design
Archeras Umangiar Guardians of the Galaxy Holdings Guardians of the Galaxy. 22	Posted - 2015.09.28 13:14:56 - [96] - Quote HAIL JAMES 315!! OUR LORD AND SAVIOR!
Marlin Spikes EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 240	Posted - 2015.09.28 13:39:29 - [97] - Quote 412nv Yaken wrote: Giving he isnt low low hull, as such the ship would explode, I would bring a friend and need to start the negotiating again because the terms had changed I would re-negotiate with him saying that he will need to eject from his freighter and i will return 1 bil now 1 later (hedging my bets as such) When he ejects, I would pod him straight away, have friend jump into said freighter and now I have 1 Bil+pod mail+freighter+all the loot To all the carebears saying drop points and warp away, these are obviously highsec carebears and should get a permit. I just might try this one day...lol. Bombers Rule!!!
Max Jaeger Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.09.28 15:01:08 - [98] - Quote Marlin Spikes wrote: If you catch a war-target freighter on a gate, bring it to low structure, scan it and find it loaded up with goodies (large volume - fitted ships, etc.), AND you are able to negotiate a 2B ransom which is now sitting in your wallet.... Do you: A. Drop points and warp away B. Drop points and immediately re-engage (i.e., starting a new engagement with this individual) C. Kill him with fire and make fun of him in local D. Other (Please elaborate). I'm curious if there is such a thing as internet honor, or is space as dark as I hope it is? What a great way to start the morning, eh? LOL "War target" being the key word here I would D: kill him, pod him and say nothing in local. Having said that, if the freighter wasn't a war target I would D: drop points and instruct him to go back the way he came. Should he ignore my instruction and continue on his planned route I would re-engage and kill.
Saeger1737 Bite the pillow The Pursuit of Happiness 1139	Posted - 2015.09.28 16:05:33 - [99] - Quote All flashy red must die!!
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3669	Posted - 2015.09.29 00:57:59 - [100] - Quote Archeras Umangiar wrote: HAIL JAMES 315!! OUR LORD AND SAVIOR! The brown on your nose extends for several threads now. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

412nv Yaken The Conference Elite CODE. 320	Posted - 2015.09.29 05:26:22 - [101] - Quote Marlin Spikes wrote: 412nv Yaken wrote: Giving he isnt low low hull, as such the ship would explode, I would bring a friend and need to start the negotiating again because the terms had changed I would re-negotiate with him saying that he will need to eject from his freighter and i will return 1 bil now 1 later (hedging my bets as such) When he ejects, I would pod him straight away, have friend jump into said freighter and now I have 1 Bil+pod mail+freighter+all the loot To all the carebears saying drop points and warp away, these are obviously highsec carebears and should get a permit. I just might try this one day...lol. It works it happened in Sivala on sunday during burn uedama :P Free Obbie :) A True Champion of High Security Space
Trix Andrard World Traders Guild Channel 0	Posted - 2015.09.29 15:42:44 - [102] - Quote Marlin Spikes wrote: If you catch a war-target freighter on a gate, bring it to low structure, scan it and find it loaded up with goodies (large volume - fitted ships, etc.), AND you are able to negotiate a 2B ransom which is now sitting in your wallet.... Do you: A. Drop points and warp away B. Drop points and immediately re-engage (i.e., starting a new engagement with this individual) C. Kill him with fire and make fun of him in local D. Other (Please elaborate). I'm curious if there is such a thing as internet honor, or is space as dark as I hope it is? What a great way to start the morning, eh? LOL Other -> Honor is like Moral: A concept made up by lesser minds to enlist the even lesser minds to overcome stronger minds.
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3695	Posted - 2015.10.02 01:33:46 - [103] - Quote Trix Andrard wrote: Marlin Spikes wrote: If you catch a war-target freighter on a gate, bring it to low structure, scan it and find it loaded up with goodies (large volume - fitted ships, etc.), AND you are able to negotiate a 2B ransom which is now sitting in your wallet.... Do you: A. Drop points and warp away B. Drop points and immediately re-engage (i.e., starting a new engagement with this individual) C. Kill him with fire and make fun of him in local D. Other (Please elaborate). I'm curious if there is such a thing as internet honor, or is space as dark as I hope it is? What a great way to start the morning, eh? LOL Other -> Honor is like Moral: A concept made up by lesser minds to enlist the even lesser minds to overcome stronger minds. Maybe you should get somebody without one of those lesser minds to post for you. Your own work seems to be a mix of "confusing mess" and "very terrible". Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Madrax573 Bastion of Mad Behaviour 4	Posted - 2015.10.02 02:19:59 - [104] - Quote Well I hope that most of the posters who would let them go after a ransom has been agreed upon and paid is true. I'm keen to get back into being a pirate in eve (rather than an outlaw pvp'er) But in the case of the OP. WT's won't get ransomed just killed.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2614	Posted - 2015.10.02 02:33:56 - [105] - Quote The WT bit does change things. There's really no reason to be ransoming them. Random munchkin is a different story. You can sometimes get some nice payouts from mission runners who just want you to let them go so they can go on with their day. Without scanning their ship ahead of time it's kind of a toss of the dice though. Sometimes just blowing them up is actually a worse call than trying for the ransom, as all you're gonna get from them is a bunch of mediocre junk. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Leto Thule Lazerhawks 3696	Posted - 2015.10.02 03:52:14 - [106] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: The WT bit does change things. There's really no reason to be ransoming them. Random munchkin is a different story. You can sometimes get some nice payouts from mission runners who just want you to let them go so they can go on with their day. Without scanning their ship ahead of time it's kind of a toss of the dice though. Sometimes just blowing them up is actually a worse call than trying for the ransom, as all you're gonna get from them is a bunch of mediocre junk. I dont disagree with the whole WT thing, but the question was if the ransom was offered and agreed upon. WT or not, if the circumstances ended up that way, I would still honor it. A deal is a deal. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment


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