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Sirob
Gallente Zerglings
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Posted - 2006.12.20 15:00:00 -
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I discovered that r0me0 has an alt named Xsaracoast. So I looked her history up and found that she is a known corp theif and scammer. I'm putting this information out in the public so that people who are dealing with either of them can read up and be informed and keep themselves safe.
My personal dealings with these two characters have left me feeling pretty sorry for them (him). They both seem to spend a lot of their time trolling and trash talking, in game and out of game. It is no surprise to me that this guys alt scams and even steals from people that trust him as a corpmate. --- For the swarm! |
Cmdr Grudge
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Posted - 2006.12.20 15:03:00 -
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welcome to eve
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.20 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sirob I discovered that r0me0 has an alt named Xsaracoast. So I looked her history up and found that she is a known corp theif and scammer. I'm putting this information out in the public so that people who are dealing with either of them can read up and be informed and keep themselves safe.
My personal dealings with these two characters have left me feeling pretty sorry for them (him). They both seem to spend a lot of their time trolling and trash talking, in game and out of game. It is no surprise to me that this guys alt scams and even steals from people that trust him as a corpmate.
dont be throwing accusations out without proof?
Its like saying Ive been the secret mastermind behind the GHSC Impoc thefts, and this is my puny alt. No one will believe you without proof. (FYI Im not. I came to EVE way after that event occured)
Freighter Sales
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.12.20 17:18:00 -
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Proof or stfu
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Sirob
Gallente Zerglings
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Posted - 2006.12.21 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc
dont be throwing accusations out without proof?
You'd think if I was able to figure it out without anyone telling me they were the same person, you could figure it out if it mattered to you now that someone already told you they are the same guy. Try going to www.eve-search.com and looking at all the posts the two characers have made.
Anyways, I suppose an incident that occured in the 'Trade -> Other' channel in EVE helped me find the truth. I suppose I can supply logs and give you the names of people who witnessed it. But for the time being I'll just type out what happened, then supply logs and names of people who saw it happen if you still scream for evidence.
A few days ago, my corp placed several Raven Navy Issues on contract item exchange for 1.1b each. A couple days passed and a big order of minerals was going to become available for my corporation to buy so we wanted some isk fast, so we offered in the ships and other channels to give 100m isk to whoever bought a CNR from us. We could have just cancled the item exchanges and relisted the CNRs, but sellingthem like this would save us from losing the non-refunndable taxes associated with putting an expensive item like that up for sale. Granted, it does sound like a potential scam, but each person who bought a CNR was indeed paid the 100m isk who did so as a result of our advertisement. As any established merchant, our reputation is important to us and our word needs to be trusted by the community. Therefore it is against our intrests to scam. Possible? Yes. But did we? No.
Anyways, the last CNR needed to sell so I was advertising in the trade channels, when r0me0 saw me and instantly said "SCAMMER!! SCAMMER!" etc and would not shut up. I calmly explained I'm not scamming and I do admit I could technically use this to "trick someone into buying a CNR for 1.1b instead of 1b" that I was honest and am paying the 100m isk to each person who buys a CNR. So r0me0 asked why I dont just relist it and I expalined that we would lose the non refundable taxes. r0me0 proceeded to totally trash talk, calling me a "noob'et" and other key names, and spamming the trade channels telling everyone I am a verified scammer.
Had he just said "Warning, this could potentially be a scam." I'd have let it go. Fair enough. He'd just be looking outfor the community. But r0me0's attitude was one of a total troll. He was obviously having fun calling me a scammer and would just not let it die. At one point he suddenly told everyone in the channels that he sent me 11m isk to pay for the non refundable taxes on one CNR and now I have no reason not to relist it for 100m less. He, of course, had sent no ISK but tried to make it look like I had stolen the 11m isk he sent me.
As the evening went on, r0me0 continued to insist to everyone I'm a scammer as I tried to sale my wares, and by chance one of the poeple I had previously done this "buy a CNR get 100m isk" deal happened to join the channel. This guy was an established character in a corp who had a long corp history and a unique bio etc. He saw what was being said in the channel and told r0me0 that the other day he bought a CNR from me and I was true to my word and sent him 100m isk. I thought this would settle it, but r0me0 ignored that little bit of evidence and continued to haunt me in all the trade channels I was in.
About 30 minutes later a person named Xsaracoast joined one of the channels and flatly told everyone to avoid me and that I scammed her 2 weeks ago. I told her to expalin how I scammed her, and she said that I had a CNR on contracts for 1.1b and made my offer to give her 100m if she bought it. But after she accepted the contract I did not pay up, and I blocked her. So first I asked her why I could see her typing if she was bocked, and she said I must have unblocked her since then. So then I asked her why her contract history does not show she bought a CNR from me or my corp and... --- For the swarm! |
Sirob
Gallente Zerglings
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Posted - 2006.12.21 10:12:00 -
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...she said because it was on another character on her account. So I asked her which character and she would not answer. I told her she can prove once and for all that I'm a scammer if she just tells me which character, then she suddenly said "I'm leaving now you can convo me if you want to talk privately sirob." Nice one, way to ignore the question.
So she left and I convoed her and she would not accept my convo. During all of that, r0me0 was mysteriously quiet for once. But as soon as she left he began to open his little mouth again saying "SEE!! Proof! Sirob and his corp are all scammers!" I asked him why he was so quiet while Xsaracoast was typing, and he did not answer, just kept frothing at the mouth yelling that I'm a confirmed scammer, caught red handed etc.
So I looked at his corp history and Xsaracoast's corp history and saw they were both in and out of the same corp over and over. Then I looked attheir posting histories and saw that he uses Xsaracoast to bump his sell forum posts. And I also found that Xsaracoast is a corp theif while doing that forum search. I then said to r0me0, "Look at yours and Xsaracoast's corp historyies, sheis your alt!" And he said "WOW IT TOOK YOU 25 MINUTES TO FIGURE THAT OUT?" Thus admitting to it.
So basically r0me0 over time got worked up into such a frenzy to "prove I'm a scammer" that he exposed one of his secret alts and I figured it out. Then he acted like it was not a big secret that she's his alt, but I'm sure if I had an alt that was a corp theif and that I used to ILLEGALLY bump my own sell threads I'd try to keep that a big of secret as possible. Since they have both been in and out of the same corp several times, starting in their early history, the chance that Xsaracoast wasa corp theif and then was sold to r0me0 is non-existant. It is plain to see that he has had control of thatcharacter for as long as she has existed. You can even see they both join and leave the corp sometimes within 24 hours of eachother.
There. Thats your proof. r0me0 tried to grief and troll me and use an alt to ruin my good name and I did some detective work and am now giving him what he deserves: exposure.
Every time I have bumped into r0me0 he has always been rude and he can be seen trolling people whever he goes. DO NOT hand your BPOs to him. Do not buy GTCs from him. Cuz one day, the reward is going to become bigger than the potential punishment and he is going to run with your money. Even if he dosent end up scamming you personally, IMO he is not worthy of any honest persons business.
Good day. --- For the swarm! |
Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.12.21 10:17:00 -
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You are perfectly FINE to buy GTC's from him.
All GTC scams are overviewd by CCP, If he was a scammer his main would be banned. They are not stupid, they know who peoples alt's are. Both accounts would be banned.
Also bumping sell orders, corp theft.... who cares. Doesn't prove for one fricken moment he scams with GTC's.
Run along
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Sirob
Gallente Zerglings
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Posted - 2006.12.21 10:19:00 -
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r0me0 runs a lottery where people HAND OVER 1B ISK TO HIM and trust him to not run away with it during the ticket selling phase.
r0me0 runs a BPO researching project where people hand their BPOs to him and he researches them for them in his POS.
r0me0 sells GTCs.
1 guy, 3 jobs that require the buyers trust, 3 jobs where he could take the money and run. His alt is a corp theif.
I'm not sayinhg he IS going to scam you, just saying dealing with him could be very dangerous. I'd steer clear of him. That is all. --- For the swarm! |
Sirob
Gallente Zerglings
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Posted - 2006.12.21 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii You are perfectly FINE to buy GTC's from him.
All GTC scams are overviewd by CCP, If he was a scammer his main would be banned. They are not stupid, they know who peoples alt's are. Both accounts would be banned.
Also bumping sell orders, corp theft.... who cares. Doesn't prove for one fricken moment he scams with GTC's.
Run along
Alliaanna
So, you discard all of that infromation simply because the chances that r0me0 can scam you via GTC selling is less than the chance that he could scam you using lottery or BPO researching?
Sure, the GTC market is watched by CCP, but that doe not mean he might not one day sell 30 fake GTCs for 6b isk in a short period of time, quickly sell the isk to some chinese reseller for 600 dollars, then try to sell his character on ebay for $$$ before it gets banned.
Granted, the chances of him doing the above are low. So you are correct in that buying GTCs from him is relativly safe...but why buy from a corp theif when you can buy from so many other honest people?
But even that is beside the point. Go ahead and buy GTCs from him if you wish. You are 99.9% safe. But I'd warn against handing BPOs and lottery ticket ISK to him.
Fair enough? --- For the swarm! |
DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.21 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sirob So, you discard all of that infromation simply because the chances that r0me0 can scam you via GTC selling is less than the chance that he could scam you using lottery or BPO researching?
Sure, the GTC market is watched by CCP, but that doe not mean he might not one day sell 30 fake GTCs for 6b isk in a short period of time, quickly sell the isk to some chinese reseller for 600 dollars, then try to sell his character on ebay for $$$ before it gets banned.
Granted, the chances of him doing the above are low. So you are correct in that buying GTCs from him is relativly safe...but why buy from a corp theif when you can buy from so many other honest people?
But even that is beside the point. Go ahead and buy GTCs from him if you wish. You are 99.9% safe. But I'd warn against handing BPOs and lottery ticket ISK to him.
Fair enough?[/quote
All youve done, is ATTEMPT at proving that he has an alt. Ever think he got distracted in corp? or alliance. or maybe another chat window or EVEN maybe even a Private convo?? NOO
Dont factor in those variables hmm? And what ever happened to that proof that he is a corp theif. HMM?
Idiot Nubs and their rantings. Seriously. go to Jita and go get yourself laid at the local gallente station. Seriously. Your annoying
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Skoodwask
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Posted - 2006.12.21 23:10:00 -
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All youve done, is ATTEMPT at proving that he has an alt. Ever think he got distracted in corp? or alliance. or maybe another chat window or EVEN maybe even a Private convo?? NOO
Dont factor in those variables hmm? And what ever happened to that proof that he is a corp theif. HMM?
Idiot Nubs and their rantings. Seriously. go to Jita and go get yourself laid at the local gallente station. Seriously. Your annoying
Please finish reading the post before you respond....
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R0ME0
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Posted - 2006.12.22 00:30:00 -
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LMAO, i have around 10 channels open at one time most of the time, trading all day long, did me calling you a NOOB'ET really offend you....
I dont feel i need to defend my self that many poeple will do this for me... AS FOR GTC SALES.... lmao please see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=408392
R0ME0, Spelt with number 0, not letter o
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Sirob
Gallente Zerglings
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Posted - 2006.12.22 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc
All youve done, is ATTEMPT at proving that he has an alt. Ever think he got distracted in corp? or alliance. or maybe another chat window or EVEN maybe even a Private convo?? NOO Dont factor in those variables hmm? And what ever happened to that proof that he is a corp theif. HMM? Idiot Nubs and their rantings. Seriously. go to Jita and go get yourself laid at the local gallente station. Seriously. Your annoying
Umm... do you think the only thing thats said in the above text is "She is his alt because when she talked he did not type."? Try reading the whole thing. Your manner of typing is much like r0me0s. Are you a friend of his? Or just a sharer of his troll mentality? Why do you feel the need to hurl unfounded insults all over? --- For the swarm! |
R0ME0
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Posted - 2006.12.22 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sirob About 30 minutes later a person named Xsaracoast joined one of the channels and flatly told everyone to avoid me and that I scammed her 2 weeks ago. I told her to expalin how I scammed her, and she said that I had a CNR on contracts for 1.1b and made my offer to give her 100m if she bought it. But after she accepted the contract I did not pay up, and I blocked her. So first I asked her why I could see her typing if she was blocked, and she said I must have unblocked her since then. So then I asked her why her contract history does not show she bought a CNR from me or my corp and...
She never said no such thing about a CNR, nothing about 1.1bill isk and nothing about 100mill isk, this is total BS, and if true i want logs shown, by 3rd partys than sirob, because no logs at all say the above statment
this is one line of a log to show he is speaking out of his arse, and making half of this up as he goes along.
Quote: [ 2006.12.20 13:33:07 ] xsaracoast > you said you had an item for sale on contracts, it was overprices and you would loose out due to the tax
Quote: [ 2006.12.20 13:36:09 ] xsaracoast > i did loose 80mill but i know thats my own fault
please confirm this log is correct, and tell me where the F-ing it says such details what you claim, and then tel me if how your word is so good when you bend the truth so heavy.. xsaracoast is also not my account, for the record.
R0ME0, Spelt with number 0, not letter o
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Sirob
Gallente Zerglings
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Posted - 2006.12.22 05:29:00 -
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Granted, Xsaracoast did not say it was a CNR on the contract. She did not say what it was but the assumption was that it was a CNR. I fail to see why the exact item type matters exactly. The point is, while you were accusing me of using contracts to scam people with CNRs, she came into chat and said I am a contract scammer and she lost tons of isk from dealing with me. She did not say what the contract item type was, but for all intents and purposes it really looked like the topic of "CNR contract scams" so thats what me and probably everyone else thought she was talking about.
Now, I have some logs of my own to post.
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[ 2006.12.20 13:30:29 ] xsaracoast > Sirob is a scammer he said he would give me my 100mil back and logged and blocked me :((( [ 2006.12.20 13:36:10 ] xsaracoast > i did loose 80mill but i know thats my own fault
Note that first she said 100m then she said 80m. Thats why I had the 100m number in my head. Not me fault she is not consistant in her story.
So after Xsaracoast said everything she did, here is a chat log of when I confronted you about the identity of Xsaracoast. Note that only the key lines are included in this log, but NONE of the text has been fooled with in the slightest. It is all there and all in context, I just omitted people say "WTS Navy Hookbill convo me!" etc etc and a few unimportant lines by the two parties involved. Complete log can be emailed if you wish.
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[ 2006.12.20 13:43:00 ] R0ME0 > someone was on other channel and busted him, past vicim it seems [ 2006.12.20 13:43:08 ] Sirob > No one busted me [ 2006.12.20 13:43:30 ] R0ME0 > nah i just laffed and watch as some bird busted him for same scam on her, couple of weeks back lol [ 2006.12.20 13:44:02 ] Sirob > Romeo, no one busted me [ 2006.12.20 13:44:15 ] R0ME0 > xsara somot was it *See r0me0 acting like he dosnt know xsaracoast* 2006.12.20 13:48:18 ] Sirob > LOOK AT HER corp history and LOK AT YORS [ 2006.12.20 13:48:27 ] Sirob > You have both been in and out of the "Space Seals" corporation over and over [ 2006.12.20 13:48:32 ] Sirob > SHE IS YOUR DAMN ALT [ 2006.12.20 13:48:38 ] R0ME0 > welll done [ 2006.12.20 13:48:46 ] R0ME0 > that took you like 25mins [ 2006.12.20 13:49:09 ] R0ME0 > i was proving a point, anyone can have someone log and speak for you [ 2006.12.20 13:49:52 ] R0ME0 > i have 3 clients running all the time in same channels sometimes [ 2006.12.20 13:50:30 ] Sirob > First you said you sent 11m isk to me and then said I'm lying when I said you did not, and you hadnt. Then you used an alt to convince 50 people that I am a scammer. [ 2006.12.20 13:50:50 ] R0ME0 > your really boring me now noob'et i have had my fun with you now [ 2006.12.20 13:52:09 ] R0ME0 > have you sold the raven yet? [ 2006.12.20 13:52:12 ] Sirob > I am trying to sell my stuff here and he keeps saying I'm a scammer [ 2006.12.20 13:52:16 ] R0ME0 > no so i am winning at the mo :)
It is all rigth there, black and white. --- For the swarm! |
Ka Mizu
Mushroom Samba
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:34:00 -
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The op's whole point was to be careful when dealing with this character.
He didnt say hate this person or please constantly hunt down and kill this person. He didnt say that he had amazing super 100% positive proof of any guilt.
He just pointed out something suspicious and said to be careful
Its people doing this that increase people's awareness and help avoid people falling victim to lame scammers. If you dont believe him, if you dont care or if you have nothing contructive to add then dont waste your time posting anything.
Some of us do care. Thanks for the warning.
Ka Sei
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ka Mizu
He just pointed out something suspicious and said to be careful
suspicious isnt claiming things that are untrue, which he has done
Freighter Sales
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Sirob
Gallente Zerglings
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc
Originally by: Ka Mizu
He just pointed out something suspicious and said to be careful
suspicious isnt claiming things that are untrue, which he has done
What did I post that is untrue? That r0me0s alt claimed I scammed her out of a widget instead of a whatdget? r0me0 himself told me that it is alt, as shown in the log. Don't believe the log? Ask any of 10 people who were active in the conversation if what I posted was what was really said or not. All 10 of their logs will say the same thing.
Xsaracoast is either r0me0s close friend or his alt. r0me0 used Xsaracoast to try to make me look like a scammer. Xsaracoast has a history of corp theft. r0me0 holds some key positions that require honesty and trust in the community. I have discovered that r0me0 and xsaracoast are either the same, or very very closely related. Becasue r0me0 spent so long going out of his way to accuse me of being a scammer when I'm not, even using alts/others to lie for him, I took some time to do some research and I am posting the results as a public warning. Nothing more.
That is the point of my posts concerning r0me0. If some of the information is innacurate it is not key to the point, or it is only inaccurate because r0me0 is a snake and the truth can sometimes be hard to find when dealing with that type of animal. I am only posting what I know to be true, and so far all you've found thats "innaccurate" was Xsaracoast said I scammed her out of 80m instead of 100m (she actually said both) and that Xsaracoast did not mention the specific contract item I used to scamm her with, and I said she said CNR. A minor detail of NO importance to the overall point.
So please, look at the infromaton that has been presented and learn from it. Unless more real information of substance is provided, I will consider my work here done.
Good bye. --- For the swarm! |
Evil Sulu
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 13:29:00 -
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There's plenty of brokeback style tension going on in this thread. You guys should just kiss, make up, and go scam together.. or whatever it is you market monkeys do ingame.
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Woody Barbarian
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.22 14:33:00 -
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Someone please lock this goddamn thread, WE DONT CARE He's Coming |
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/12/2006 14:48:14
Originally by: Woody Barbarian Someone please lock this goddamn thread, WE DONT CARE
Correction: you don't care.
I think its pretty clear here that R0ME0 is not to be trusted, and that he uses alts to scam.
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.22 14:57:00 -
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Sending the cash to someone else from GTC scamming can be found out too. CCP can also see cash transaction, hence they can see who he/she sent the ISK to. So as long as CCP holds up to their word, and i am sure they will, you will always get refunded in case of a GTC scam.
In short GTC scam is something you ought not to worry about, even with such a shady character as you claim.
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Bill Shankly
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.12.22 15:01:00 -
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GTC resellers like him are scum anyway.
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Amuko
Amarr A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.12.22 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/12/2006 14:48:14
Originally by: Woody Barbarian Someone please lock this goddamn thread, WE DONT CARE
Correction: you don't care.
I think its pretty clear here that R0ME0 is not to be trusted, and that he uses alts to scam.
Yup, if you read every post in the thread, and I know a lot of people don't, you would have enough evidence to see that the OP is right and that r0me0 isn't someone you should trust.
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Louhbo
Gallente KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 22:19:00 -
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Xsaracost is a confirmed corp thief...She/he was in my corp and I went out on a limb to help get em to fountain. Once there He/She stole corp equipment from our pos and moved it to a hangar in bob outpost. Needless to say, KOS was ordered for the alliance and justice was served. We even convo'd the new corp that he/she moved to and warned them. This is great news that someone has found out the main account and KVA Noble has noted this down.
Thanks guyz.
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Curzon Dax
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 23:55:00 -
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o.O Good info. Rome0 exposed.
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R0ME0
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Posted - 2006.12.23 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: R0ME0 on 23/12/2006 00:22:37 when someone actualy show how xsaracoast is actually ment to be me other than when xsara was chatting i was quiet? cos reading ALL THESE POSTS, thats the only indecation pointing that i am both!!!!
I think i am going to get some long standing alts and posting a few miss placed facts my self and see how easy it is.
UNTIL someone shows that XSARA is actually ME, SHUT THE **** UP!!!!!
SHALL I PULL 1 OF MY ALTS IN BOB AND THE OTHER FROM ANOTHER WELKNOWN RIVAL CORP.. THE FACT THAT I KNOW XSARA IN RL, MEANS F U C K ALL
R0ME0, Spelt with number 0, not letter o
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.23 00:48:00 -
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spider senses say: yay to sirob nay to r0me0
thanks for the heads up
and i think its funny, that somebody can finally hand out some warning, without being robbed/scammed himself.
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Louhbo
Gallente KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.23 01:25:00 -
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Guilty by association as far as KVA is concerned
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Sirob
Gallente Zerglings
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Posted - 2006.12.23 01:54:00 -
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For the purpose of future record keeping, I will post a link to an eve-online thread which partians to this subject, as well as its eve-search.com mirror in case someone edits their posts in the future.
r0me0s merc contract against me eve-search.com version of merc thread
eve-search.com version of THIS thread, in case of future editing
I'd also like to add that r0me0 admitted to me that xsaracoast *was* his alt but he sold her. I did find a thread where r0me0 sold a character named xsaracoast2, but no thread where he sold xsaracoast. This means the liklihood that xsaracoast is merely a close RL friend of r0me0s (who comes to trade channels to lie for him to help his trolling) is lessened and it is more likely that r0me0 still, to this day, has full control of xsaracoast. --- For the swarm! |
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