I'd say anything is better than back when I first started. It was absolute hell.

Though it taught me a valuable lesson: "New Eden is a *****, and she'll never stop kicking you in the nuts."

We've pleaded, we've yelled, shaken our fists, nodded our heads in disbelief and some of us decided to make our own YT starter guide instead. Don't bother, nobody's listening because they're convinced they're doing it right.

I'd say anything is better than back when I first started. It was absolute hell.

Though it taught me a valuable lesson: "New Eden is a *****, and she'll never stop kicking you in the nuts."

Funny part is the current NPE is the worst it's been in a long time. Most of the stuff it tries to get you to do, you either can't as a noob cuz you have no ISK, or it doesn't explain stuff very well if you've never played the game before.

I was watching Jonny Pew today https://www.youtube.com/ and I had an epiphany about how the MPE should go,

Funny part is the current NPE is the worst it's been in a long time. Most of the stuff it tries to get you to do, you either can't as a noob cuz you have no ISK, or it doesn't explain stuff very well if you've never played the game before.

...after all this time working on it.

Same as some people LUTERALLY don't seem to improve their posting after all this time working on it.

They have said they have been focusing and working now the NPE for LUTERALLY MONTHS ans like a long time recently. Its humorous thwy cant improve it even in the slightest little bit. It is so bad, LITERALLY how cant they improve it after all this time of working onit?

Funny part is the current NPE is the worst it's been in a long time. Most of the stuff it tries to get you to do, you either can't as a noob cuz you have no ISK, or it doesn't explain stuff very well if you've never played the game before.

I was watching Jonny Pew today https://www.youtube.com/ and I had an epiphany about how the MPE should go,

This is how I imagine a good NPE experience should go....

When you first log in you get a message saying there is a pirate in the system that you have to destroy. The pirate warps to you (it is a newbie rat that dies in a few hits). Aura comes up and tells you step by step how to shoot the rat. You shoot the rat and it gives you an achievement for your first kill. You also get a bounty that is sizable (Like a million isk). (Aura informs you that you made a million isk) Now you finished the site.

You get an escalation. Aura comes and tells you that there is another nasty pirate one jump over and automatically sets your desto to that system. Aura tells you how to warp and jump the gate by highlighting your overview of exactly what buttons to press. You warp to the system and then aura tells you how to warp into the next site. In that next system you kill that pirate and complete the site. You also get some bounties. Aura comes on and tells you there is another nasty pirate but you need a new ship because the pirate is more powerful. Aura tells you to warp to a station. Again, the station is highlighted on your overview and aura walks you through exactly what a station is and how you use it.

Upon landing in the station aura tells you that she gave you a new ship (bantam or faction equivalent) Aura tells you that you need to fit the ship. Aura shows you how to fit the ship. The modules are in the hull of the ship. (still with civi guns and moduels) With your ship fit, you get an achievement and aura tells you to undock. You then warp to the site and kill a few rats and a structure. Inside the structure there are a few key skill books and some better guns for your ship. Aura tells you to loot the structure. you loot the structure. Aura tells you to go back to station. You inject skill books. and start training. Aura explains step by step how to do all these things.

The Next thing that happens is you get a scanning ship in your inventory. Aura tells you you have to scan down the next site. the modules to the scanning ship are in its cargo. Aura tells you exactly what each module does and how to fit it. Possibly a small tutorial video plays on scanning. You find the site, you hack the cans, you get NPC loot that can be traded at the station for isk by npc buy order. (this can only happen once per character) Now aura gives you your first blue print. It is a one run bpc for your first destroyer. Aura tells you that to get this destroyer you will have to find the minerals. She gives you a venture with a civilian miner. She tells you that you can either mine the minerals by refining ORE, continue hunting pirates to get bounties and pay for the minerals on market, or you can find a real exploration site, and hack the cans for loot to sell, and buy the minerals. (Hacking containers in 1.0 systems can be accomplished by day one pilots. Aura tells you this as well.) There are three big buttons before you. One says MINE, one says SHOOT PIRATES, and the last one says EXPLORE. You choose one and aura goes into the appropriate tutorial.

You create or buy your first destroyer, you get an achievement, and aura tells you that you have got at least the basics down and that although she will be available for reference, she will no longer bug you and that you must now find your own path. The help window automatically opens. Aura tells you that you can ask the community questions at any time. Aura refers you to the mission agents if you think you still need training. The last thing aura tells you to do is join a corporation. At that point your set.n++

Aura can be turned off through an obscure options menu item. Therefore alt pilots don't have to be bothered.

This is direct. This is fast paced. This is rewarding. This does not make you wait. You can jump in and out of this at any time and be in the exact instance you left in. It gets you doing what you signed in to do. Use your internet spaceships to shoot other internet spaceships, go exploring, and yes even mine!

You mean it is better than my NPE where I started in space with an npc orbiting me and shooting me, then if I figured out how to shoot it, more up and shot me? If I was lucky, I could figure out how to turn on my civie shield repper and how to move at the same time so I didn't get popped.

End of all NPE.

I kinda think it is better........

Just because it was even worse in the past doesn't mean where it is now is good. Making new players rely on friends and youtube videos to understand the game is kind of lazy on the developers part isn't it?

"Okay, what the hell, I completed my first quest, where's the next one?"

Well, that is what makes eve so difficult. It is impossible to teach somebody everything. That is why I like the NPE so much. It gives core things but expects the player to adapt and problem solve as well. Eve is just to complex for a full on lead by the hand. The tutorial does a very good job of the basics.

Here is how to move
Here is how to lock
Here is how to shoot
Here is some basic modules

Now spend some time and look around, get adjusted.

The only thing I found it lacks is an explanation of environment. Eve shock comes from the environment more than the play. The help stuff used to be pretty good... that is gone now though isn't it... replaced by the less useful opportunities? At some point, a player will need to get info. The more complex and versatile points of fitting ideology, different ways to fight, etc. If they put that stuff into a tutorial, we now have limited NP potential and reduced player interaction.

I am also going from my NPE. I had no friends starting out... Well, one guy I knew played, but long story short, I figured eve out on my own. I learned ship control, and then i spent time going through markets, and the RHC, first thing I learned was to interact with the other players, both the good ways and the bad. More importantly, I had a very complete understanding of modules and fittings within a week of play and experimentation. Knowledge I would not have gotten if it was a connect the dot, on rails experience.

Excellent!

All things such as this should be tailored to me, not you.