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Billy TwoMirrors	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:40:00 - [1] Edited by: Billy TwoMirrors on 21/12/2006 16:41:31 One thing spoiling this game is the lack of bluff, everyone can see the age of another player, thus he knows when to run and when to fight. So much more excitement could be had if the opponents age was unknown, even nOObs could swan around acting dead hard and bluffing older players into standing down or even running away and more good engagements would be had. The unknown is a wonderful thing :) Oh and while your at it get rid of time spent with the corp, not necessary.
Bastogne Caldari Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:42:00 - [2] As if corp scamming isn't bad enough already.
Constantine Arcanum Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:43:00 - [3] Originally by: Billy TwoMirrors Edited by: Billy TwoMirrors on 21/12/2006 16:41:31 One thing spoiling this game is the lack of bluff, everyone can see the age of another player, thus he knows when to run and when to fight. So much more excitement could be had if the opponents age was unknown, even nOObs could swan around acting dead hard and bluffing older players into standing down or even running away and more good engagements would be had. The unknown is a wonderful thing :) Oh and while your at it get rid of time spent with the corp, not necessary. Nice idea tbh... would be difficult to execute. I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes
Asestorian Minmatar Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:46:00 - [4] Except that it is actually quite foolish to rely on the characters birth date to determine how powerful they are. After all, I've been playing since January 2004 and I'm a total nubcake There is nothing wrong with the dates at all, nor is there anything wrong with saying how long people have spent with a corp. If you are going to do that just get rid of the employment history completely. Removal of the dates etc will just make it easier for corp thieves and spies, as they can just jump into alt corps all the time and no-one has any idea how long they were in them, and when they actually started the game. It would just be a total pain in the arse. --- ---
Sadayiel Caldari Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:47:00 - [5] 1st rule never be confident unless the players is less than 5 months old... with 5 months he can be pretty capable to match you , unless you are a pure dedicated pilot or an old vet Banana's 4tw - Xorus
Ms Rousseau	Posted - 2006.12.21 16:58:00 - [6] reminds me of the thread where someone argued against being able to see a locked enemies hitpoints-- you'd never know if you were into their hull or barely scratching their shields. Someone with more initiative than me ought to look for that thread :P
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:55:00 - [7] "One thing spoiling this game is the lack of bluff, everyone can see the age of another player, thus he knows when to run and when to fight." If you run from people based on their character age then the only person 'spoiling the game' for yourself is you... don't presume that's what the others base their decisions on, either.
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:01:00 - [8] I have an alt that was born in 2003, and he cant shoot his way out of a wet paperbag...80k sp on the other hand, the new accounts main is a deadly little witch.... Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
Egore Spangler	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:19:00 - [9] This does make sense and I for one think its a great idea. I would also love to see this implemented along with some other bluffing tools; No age on corp history - only viewable by granted partys A camo mod, that makes your ship look like another - acts just like a cloaking device Removal of local as a itel tool from all 0.4 and below Then this game could be all about who has the biggest balls, not who has paid there subs the longest.
Kim Chee Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:25:00 - [10] That's why you have 3 character slots. You want to pretend you're a n00b when you've played since 2003? Make an alt! You want to pretend you know what you're doing when you just joined yesterday? Claim you ARE an alt! Problem solved.
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Roshan longshot I have an alt that was born in 2003, and he cant shoot his way out of a wet paperbag...800k sp Fixed. Damned newbie-friendly Kali ---------------------------- Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY WTB: Friggin' portrait
Bastogne Caldari Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:28:00 - [12] How about we just remove the entire GUI. Game will about who can click around randomly the fastest.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Bastogne How about we just remove the entire GUI. Game will about who can click around randomly the fastest. hmm I'll need a new mouse then Sig Nerf - Cortes I declare war on ISD! You don't stand a chance -Karl
Gadfly Hawke G-Tek Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:38:00 - [14] Info about corp history, birth date, etc, is useful only when applying to a corp. It would be simple to just have a switch to permit individuals to see your history, otherwise it's blank. There is no good reason for history to be public info. We must beware of identity theft. G-Tek is recruiting
Sarf	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:46:00 - [15] you know if you wher elooking at the info on a player, and there was a 30s or 1m delay (while your computer contacts the data net) it would sole both. in combat you could not tell right away if it was a old player or a new one but corps could. Or maybe just you have to be docked in a station to see the employment info.
Maximum Panic	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:51:00 - [16] No leave it! I love how my 2003 hauler alt makes everyone run for safespots when he jumps into gates. They must be thinking "OH NOES HE MUST HAVE UBER SPS!" I am so dead. Despite the fact I trained him for 2 months then stopped putting in any sps. Don't change it unless it is BROKEN. Maximum p.s. What is wrong with you wanting 1v1s and worrying about how old characters are? Dont you know that eve combat is about ganking with 4x the number of ships than your target so they die really fast and you can argue who gets the good mods.....
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.21 23:08:00 - [17] No, leave corp history. Who cares if people can see how old you are? The ability to see who someone has worked for in the past is not some random thing CCP invented. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Karash Amerius Amarr O.E.C	Posted - 2006.12.21 23:20:00 - [18] I wish they would RESTORE my job history...says 2004 when i started, but I entered game May of 2003 Merc Blog
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2006.12.21 23:21:00 - [19] while you can make a guess on what to expect. you really have no idea when your reading someones employment history. a man in my corp that was by all means a 'newb' ended up being one of the best pvp pilots i'd everseen and he barely had the skills to fly his BS other times i've seen ppl w/ 2003 on their history and wonder what paint they were huffing the last 3 years as i blew up their sorry excuse for a setup. as many characters are bought and sold. as many that are left inactive for long periods of times (making actual SP a crapshoot)..... you never know, your simply making assumptions. and you know what happens when you make assumptions dont ya? You make an ass outta U and mptions. (little samuel L ref for ya :P )
Billy TwoMirrors	Posted - 2006.12.21 23:26:00 - [20] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia No, leave corp history. Who cares if people can see how old you are? The ability to see who someone has worked for in the past is not some random thing CCP invented. Remove the date in corp history, not the corps history
Iyanah Minmatar Mining Munitions and Mayhem	Posted - 2006.12.21 23:32:00 - [21] Originally by: j0sephine "One thing spoiling this game is the lack of bluff, everyone can see the age of another player, thus he knows when to run and when to fight." If you run from people based on their character age then the only person 'spoiling the game' for yourself is you... don't presume that's what the others base their decisions on, either. indeed. i've had my ship spanked by people with about 6 months game time whilst a few days later spanking someone who's been playing for nearly two years. and there's always people who look vulnerable yet actually have a bunch of mates lurking about waiting to whack you. i got ambushed by a typhoon that warped right on top of me which was an alt belonging to a guy i was fighting. the guy was ganged with his alt and the alt and himself were in separate NPC corps. i still got away without a scratch. ========================================== Iy
Kiyano Caldari Star Fraction Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 23:38:00 - [22] I like the employment history but why should it be visible to everyone within a click of a mouse, why not have it only appear in detail when the player is applying to a corp or for the ceo/directors of his/her current corp. I'm quite content leaving things as they are, I often judge people at least a little bit on how old they are but that doesn't mean things wouldn't be better with a change. I'm guess i'm sorta on the fence on this one, don't see it changing anytime soon unless a LOT of people wanted it to though.
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:05:00 - [23] Originally by: Billy TwoMirrors Edited by: Billy TwoMirrors on 21/12/2006 16:41:31 One thing spoiling this game is the lack of bluff, everyone can see the age of another player, thus he knows when to run and when to fight. So much more excitement could be had if the opponents age was unknown, even nOObs could swan around acting dead hard and bluffing older players into standing down or even running away and more good engagements would be had. The unknown is a wonderful thing :) Oh and while your at it get rid of time spent with the corp, not necessary. I'm actually not against but admit there is a lot a al spy everywhere. So if it was an idea to get closer to realism, alt aren't realist. I'd rather see a "what are this character's alt" and a "is it a main" button, a lot of spying could be get rod of like this.
Fodderrr	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:13:00 - [24] Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn I'd rather see a "what are this character's alt" and a "is it a main" button, a lot of spying could be get rod of like this. thats a nice idea, would mean alot of people would have to take account of their actions
Kaaii Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:16:00 - [25] Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Originally by: Billy TwoMirrors Edited by: Billy TwoMirrors on 21/12/2006 16:41:31 I'd rather see a "what are this character's alt" and a "is it a main" button, a lot of spying could be get rod of like this. You win EVE, best idea ever! Trading 101
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:21:00 - [26] No thanks, I like to be able to see where the majority of a player's time has been spent.
Mordorg Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:23:00 - [27] Originally by: Fodderrr Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn I'd rather see a "what are this character's alt" and a "is it a main" button, a lot of spying could be get rod of like this. thats a nice idea, would mean alot of people would have to take account of their actions Then you would just use another account. Its easy for farm enough for isk->GTC. I would never waste isk like that, but I know more then a few guys who run multiple accounts off isk.
Solant Minmatar C A P S U L E Edge of Sanity	Posted - 2006.12.22 01:38:00 - [28] Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Originally by: Billy TwoMirrors Edited by: Billy TwoMirrors on 21/12/2006 16:41:31 One thing spoiling this game is the lack of bluff, everyone can see the age of another player, thus he knows when to run and when to fight. So much more excitement could be had if the opponents age was unknown, even nOObs could swan around acting dead hard and bluffing older players into standing down or even running away and more good engagements would be had. The unknown is a wonderful thing :) Oh and while your at it get rid of time spent with the corp, not necessary. I'm actually not against but admit there is a lot a al spy everywhere. So if it was an idea to get closer to realism, alt aren't realist. I'd rather see a "what are this character's alt" and a "is it a main" button, a lot of spying could be get rod of like this. Uhh, no? Being a spy is part of the game, fool.
Spurty Caldari Spectral Armada Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.12.22 02:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Solant Uhh, no? Being a spy is part of the game, fool. Its how some of us make the easy money. Use our ALTs to steal form the stoopidly large corp of no-names so we can fund the Corp our RL buddies are in :-) yupe .. ripping some of the best 'anti-pirate' corps off is part of my game. Stuff grinding Mwhahahhaa
DefJam101 Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.22 02:46:00 - [30] As much as this makes sense I can't agree. Someone my age challenging someone from 2003, you are 100% relying on luck to determine victory or defeat. With SP as a gap, thats all EVE ever is, is luck. *** Sorry mods, edited sig and forgot to save for web.

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