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Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.22 21:22:00 - [1] Iv often had a few tricks up my sleeve or merely observations, that seem small at first but have saved me many ships, i will help pirates by sharing some of the small nuances that have saved me over the years. Most of this information is more usefull to outlaws 1. If someone engages you when they are in a weaker ship, dis engage and leave. you can bet he has a gank squad nearby. 2. Keep an eye on local as you fight, if local increases by more then two in lowsec, leave. if it increases by more then 1 in 0.0 leave. 3.Always be aligned to an object when you are in a safespot, if you are paying attention a covert ops wont get you. 4. DO NOT EVER ACCEPT 1v1s ! 5. If you think someone may be out to get you, they probably are. 6. assume everyone in local is allied with each other unless shown otherwise. 7. Mis direction is key, i have often saved my ship by saying something casual like "well, im going to xxx system and logging" When in fact i go to another gate. 8. when fighting, if your ship setup allows it, attempt to stay aligned to an object, so if you pop your curent target you can leave as soon as possible if some of your targets friends arrive. 9.Never underestimate your opponant, if anything over estimate them and assume the worst. 10. Again, Be a pessimist and assume that everyone is out to get you. Feel free to add your own. --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Snodgey2004 Mega Modal M0nkeys	Posted - 2006.12.22 21:27:00 - [2] Originally by: Benglada Iv often had a few tricks up my sleeve or merely observations, that seem small at first but have saved me many ships, i will help pirates by sharing some of the small nuances that have saved me over the years. Most of this information is more usefull to outlaws 1. If someone engages you when they are in a weaker ship, dis engage and leave. you can bet he has a gank squad nearby. 2. Keep an eye on local as you fight, if local increases by more then two in lowsec, leave. if it increases by more then 1 in 0.0 leave. 3.Always be aligned to an object when you are in a safespot, if you are paying attention a covert ops wont get you. 4. DO NOT EVER ACCEPT 1v1s ! 5. If you think someone may be out to get you, they probably are. 6. assume everyone in local is allied with each other unless shown otherwise. 7. Mis direction is key, i have often saved my ship by saying something casual like "well, im going to xxx system and logging" When in fact i go to another gate. 8. when fighting, if your ship setup allows it, attempt to stay aligned to an object, so if you pop your curent target you can leave as soon as possible if some of your targets friends arrive. 9.Never underestimate your opponant, if anything over estimate them and assume the worst. 10. Again, Be a pessimist and assume that everyone is out to get you. Feel free to add your own. Pretty much how everyone should play not just outlaws really , only point I'd have an issue with is local increasing by set amounts . In a busy low-sec 30-40 1 or 2 is nothing and I don't think you should run cos' of that , in 0.0 maybe if local jumps soon as you engage that'd be right to leave it alone
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.22 21:31:00 - [3] Thats true, but like i said, im paranoid --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Mazare Mircea Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.12.22 21:33:00 - [4] Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 22/12/2006 21:35:19 Originally by: Benglada Iv often had a few tricks up my sleeve or merely observations, that seem small at first but have saved me many ships, i will help pirates by sharing some of the small nuances that have saved me over the years. Most of this information is more usefull to outlaws 1. If someone engages you when they are in a weaker ship, dis engage and leave. you can bet he has a gank squad nearby. 2. Keep an eye on local as you fight, if local increases by more then two in lowsec, leave. if it increases by more then 1 in 0.0 leave. 3.Always be aligned to an object when you are in a safespot, if you are paying attention a covert ops wont get you. 4. DO NOT EVER ACCEPT 1v1s ! 5. If you think someone may be out to get you, they probably are. 6. assume everyone in local is allied with each other unless shown otherwise. 7. Mis direction is key, i have often saved my ship by saying something casual like "well, im going to xxx system and logging" When in fact i go to another gate. 8. when fighting, if your ship setup allows it, attempt to stay aligned to an object, so if you pop your curent target you can leave as soon as possible if some of your targets friends arrive. 9.Never underestimate your opponant, if anything over estimate them and assume the worst. 10. Again, Be a pessimist and assume that everyone is out to get you. Feel free to add your own. This level of paranoia saved my pod and ship at least 4-5 times. And I'm somewhat carebearish. :) PS: Did 5 1:1's untill now, 3 were broken or the other guy attempted to break them. I would do 1:1's but you need to think ahead and be very carefull. The odd think is that the dishonoured 1:1's were in T1 frigs with players 1-2 years old in high-sec. What would they stand to lose ? ----- Do androids dream of electric sheep ?
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.22 21:37:00 - [5] I agree, the closest to 1v1 i would do is jump on a group who assumes they can take me out, that usually ends up in a good fight. iv also accepted about 7 1v1s in my life, 5 dishonured --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.22 21:56:00 - [6] Or just fly ships you can afford to lose, and enjoy any PvP you get. [OMG! SMASH!]
Verone Veto.	Posted - 2006.12.22 22:11:00 - [7] Nice advice. How's that Ishtar doing Beng? VETO FOR HIRE
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.22 22:27:00 - [8] Originally by: Verone Nice advice. How's that Ishtar doing Beng? lol actually i sold it yesterday, after having fun in bobbit territory. Yes, it was the same ishtar to :D --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2006.12.22 22:29:00 - [9] Originally by: Benglada Iv often had a few tricks up my sleeve or merely observations, that seem small at first but have saved me many ships, i will help pirates by sharing some of the small nuances that have saved me over the years. Most of this information is more usefull to outlaws 1. If someone engages you when they are in a weaker ship, dis engage and leave. you can bet he has a gank squad nearby. 2. Keep an eye on local as you fight, if local increases by more then two in lowsec, leave. if it increases by more then 1 in 0.0 leave. 3.Always be aligned to an object when you are in a safespot, if you are paying attention a covert ops wont get you. 4. DO NOT EVER ACCEPT 1v1s ! 5. If you think someone may be out to get you, they probably are. 6. assume everyone in local is allied with each other unless shown otherwise. 7. Mis direction is key, i have often saved my ship by saying something casual like "well, im going to xxx system and logging" When in fact i go to another gate. 8. when fighting, if your ship setup allows it, attempt to stay aligned to an object, so if you pop your curent target you can leave as soon as possible if some of your targets friends arrive. 9.Never underestimate your opponant, if anything over estimate them and assume the worst. 10. Again, Be a pessimist and assume that everyone is out to get you. Feel free to add your own. 11. Talk smack to pirates in local while hugging the gate/station, under protection of sentries, and jump out when a blinky frigate warps to gate at 100km
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.22 22:41:00 - [10] lol deathforge that was advise for pirates not carebears, although it applys. im -9.4 :P --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2006.12.22 23:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Benglada lol deathforge that was advise for pirates not carebears, although it applys. im -9.4 :P It can go either way, i'm just irritated about, well, you can guess what
pshepherd Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2006.12.22 23:16:00 - [12] Originally by: Benglada 4. DO NOT EVER ACCEPT 1v1s ! 1v1's can be a lot of fun if your careful, all the 1v1 fights i've been in recently i've had a corpmate sitting 20km from me in a cloaked recon, in case my enemy does something funny.
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.12.22 23:46:00 - [13] Originally by: pshepherd Originally by: Benglada 4. DO NOT EVER ACCEPT 1v1s ! 1v1's can be a lot of fun if your careful, all the 1v1 fights i've been in recently i've had a corpmate sitting 20km from me in a cloaked recon, in case my enemy does something funny. Maybe you can't read to well. This is how these '<insert random corp name here> Dishonored a 1v1'... Vile - Recruiting Pirates
DiuxDium Casting Shadows	Posted - 2006.12.23 00:03:00 - [14] 11) Don't fly anything you can't afford 5x over. Seriously. 12) Expect to lose those those expensive implants. While one might consider the above obvious, they're not.
Fodderrr	Posted - 2006.12.23 00:05:00 - [15] Originally by: Benglada 4. DO NOT EVER ACCEPT 1v1s ! so your not going to be baiting players in ships smaller than your megathron again then .
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.12.23 00:26:00 - [16] I'd rather just die more often and have more fun. Originally by: Benglada 1. If someone engages you when they are in a weaker ship, dis engage and leave. you can bet he has a gank squad nearby. Try to kill the baitship and run, it's fun. Originally by: Benglada 2. Keep an eye on local as you fight, if local increases by more then two in lowsec, leave. if it increases by more then 1 in 0.0 leave. Spam the scanner to see what's incoming. If it doesn't look too bad, stick around and enjoy the lemmings spawn. tip: Kill these reenforcements slowly to trigger further carebear spawns. Originally by: Benglada 5. If you think someone may be out to get you, they probably are. Engage them anyways. Sniggwaffe is recruiting
Marcus TheMartin Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.12.23 00:34:00 - [17] 13. Ignore the threats of belt ratters and those ganked at gates 14. Heed the warnings of angry miners Sig Nerf - Cortes I declare war on ISD! You don't stand a chance -Karl
Ysanne Isaard Extinction Level Event	Posted - 2006.12.23 04:11:00 - [18] 15. Rename your ship - Seeing <Insert pilot name>'s Rifter/Omen/Ferox/Megathron etc. is quite a giveaway. 16. Dont fly what you cant afford to lose - Already mentioned, learn by repetition.
Verone Veto.	Posted - 2006.12.23 04:39:00 - [19] Originally by: Benglada Originally by: Verone Nice advice. How's that Ishtar doing Beng? lol actually i sold it yesterday, after having fun in bobbit territory. Yes, it was the same ishtar to :D rofl VETO FOR HIRE
owntbyagarbagecan	Posted - 2006.12.23 09:12:00 - [20] Edited by: owntbyagarbagecan on 23/12/2006 09:12:47 0000
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.23 09:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Fodderrr Originally by: Benglada 4. DO NOT EVER ACCEPT 1v1s ! so your not going to be baiting players in ships smaller than your megathron again then . probably not, please post with your main so i know what the hell your talking about. --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2006.12.23 14:23:00 - [22] Originally by: Fodderrr Originally by: Benglada 4. DO NOT EVER ACCEPT 1v1s ! so your not going to be baiting players in ships smaller than your megathron again then . Well in the op's defence she/he did engage my astarte when i had a friend in a vaga who quickly changed to an ishtar but still engaging a vaga and astarte is pretty brave for a b'thron pilot. Good advice for less experienced players. not too sure about the 1v1 though. i have accepted a great many 1v1's and never been ganked. btw yes the guy you faced was my evil alt DE
Talionis	Posted - 2006.12.23 20:09:00 - [23] Originally by: Ysanne Isaard 15. Rename your ship - Seeing <Insert pilot name>'s Rifter/Omen/Ferox/Megathron etc. is quite a giveaway. That's a very good point. While scanning from planets the other day for POSs, I managed to find 2 active enemy POSs. I didn't have to warp in on the moons because they had shuttles sitting around with just that in their names. Quick scan through the people and places tab, and you get a positive ID on the corp.
Kelron Queldine Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.23 21:24:00 - [24] Originally by: DiuxDium 11) Don't fly anything you can't afford 5x over. Seriously. 12) Expect to lose those those expensive implants. While one might consider the above obvious, they're not. That sounds boring. Maybe just change it to - Don't get upset if you die. --------------------------- Signatures are for the weak.
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.24 00:36:00 - [25] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Fodderrr Originally by: Benglada 4. DO NOT EVER ACCEPT 1v1s ! so your not going to be baiting players in ships smaller than your megathron again then . Well in the op's defence she/he did engage my astarte when i had a friend in a vaga who quickly changed to an ishtar but still engaging a vaga and astarte is pretty brave for a b'thron pilot. Good advice for less experienced players. not too sure about the 1v1 though. i have accepted a great many 1v1's and never been ganked. btw yes the guy you faced was my evil alt DE Haha, I would have gotten you to if it wasent for that meddling ishtar ! (boooyaaa scooby doo reference) --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
NeOnicuS Ore Truckers	Posted - 2006.12.24 03:02:00 - [26] thats was my meddling ishtar!!!! on another note 6. assume everyone in local is allied with each other unless shown otherwise. too true and you have a big pair of cajones not many would engage astarte/ishtar/vaga in a thron... ----------- Yaarrr!! Where have all the cowboys gone?
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.24 03:44:00 - [27] Originally by: NeOnicuS thats was my meddling ishtar!!!! on another note 6. assume everyone in local is allied with each other unless shown otherwise. too true and you have a big pair of cajones not many would engage astarte/ishtar/vaga in a thron... Yea, iv got AWU 4 now , i think id probably have won if i had it then lol. (2nd rep) --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Tissaphernes	Posted - 2006.12.24 04:00:00 - [28] Originally by: DiuxDium 11) Don't fly anything you can't afford 5x over. Seriously. 12) Expect to lose those those expensive implants. While one might consider the above obvious, they're not. I always find that losing my implants sets me free. Hate the idea that my pod could cost me a hundred million if I don't warp out fast enough. Originally by: Phelan Lore Try to kill the baitship and run, it's fun. It sure is. 13) Whenever you're idle, check corps, bios and sec statuses of everyone in local. 14) Never believe anything anyone says in local. Often the opposite is true, or the things said are part of a trap to lure you into losing your ship. 15) Don't be afraid to impersonate and lay your own traps. Name your battle Dominix "Roid Zapper" and release a few time stamped cans in a busy-ish system. You never know, you just might con someone...or not.
Asha'Lil Minmatar The Black Fleet	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:02:00 - [29] Here is one for ya. If you jump in to a system and find a gate camp on the other side. Don't panic. Look around before uncloaking. Find out what way your ship is facing. See if any planets, moons, stations, belts, ex. are strait or close to it right out in front of you. Warp to it. In a medium to big sized slow warping ship this is your best bet for getting out assuming your not in a warp bubble. Chances are your not going to turn 180 degrees and still warp away before your scrammed/popped. __________________________________ Stay still! This wont hurt... Yarr!
Roupeh Natanoj Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.24 15:04:00 - [30] Thread disclaimer: If you're a carebear and don't want to lose any amount of ISK, EVER, follow these directions. Large amounts of boring game time may follow.

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