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Strata Drow
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Posted - 2003.11.26 18:14:00 -
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I was out in catch today scouting for some choice asteroids to mine when I noticed a fleet of Curse Alliance members jumping systems near HED. I was going the opposite way toward Empire. The didn't follow me, so I thought hmmm, maybe the are not so bad. But as fate would have it I was wrong. As I jumped into Hed there were 3 waiting at the in point and they podded me. I was no threat in a shuttle, no alliance member, no anything to them, yet they podded me. I read in the forums they claim to be against Piracy. They said we are defending our space. In Catch? You are Curse Alliance not Catch alliance. And if you were defending your space, why are you camping the jump in toward Empire? Seems like a pirate tactic. Well, that's because you are pirates but hide behind your war with Stain to cover it up. At least real pirates have the balls to admit it, unlike you sorry pathetic pkers. Numbers are all you have. "We are not pirates", you say that because you are too afraid to be hunted by all who see you just like real pirates. Lame is the word of the day for CA
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Xen0
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Posted - 2003.11.26 18:17:00 -
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yup, that sums it up, CA are pirates, they will pod without hesitation. But hey, when they get in a big fight, they always run.
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.26 18:33:00 -
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oooh more attention for us 
Seriously, pretty much every one in CA has heard it all before, we are perfectly happy for you to think of us as you see fit, it ultimately doesnt affect us ingame anymore.
Please post up your kill log, including your real ID, as yours is unknown to us at the moment. Not that im distrusting just the fact that this is your very first post makes me go hmmm (wasn't that a song?). Mercenary | The Azath |

Xen0
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Posted - 2003.11.26 18:42:00 -
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I think most of all know CA are pirates, but there are still some noobs that don't know yet and HAVE to post about it. So give that dude some slack 
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.26 18:52:00 -
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Quote: I think most of all know CA are pirates, but there are still some noobs that don't know yet and HAVE to post about it. So give that dude some slack 
Its not really paranoia if they are really after you Wisdom of Kurty boy i beleive.
im imagining you sat at home huddled up reapeatedly saying "i wish CA were pirates, i wish CA were pirates"
Then again wishes aint reality! 
Wisdom courtesy of 5 bottles of stella artois and some JD's  Mercenary | The Azath |

Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2003.11.26 18:57:00 -
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Go CAP GO!!
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.11.26 19:04:00 -
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Quote: Go CAP GO!!
Duh, i beleive the slang is actually CAoP 
You have to get your wishes more accurate, or else they backfire! Did you never watch The adventures of sinbad! Mercenary | The Azath |

The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.26 21:33:00 -
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Quote: yup, that sums it up, CA are pirates, they will pod without hesitation. But hey, when they get in a big fight, they always run.
Coming from a pirate like you, I am hurt. 
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.26 21:41:00 -
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Quote: I was out in catch today scouting for some choice asteroids to mine when I noticed a fleet of Curse Alliance members jumping systems near HED. I was going the opposite way toward Empire. The didn't follow me, so I thought hmmm, maybe the are not so bad. But as fate would have it I was wrong. As I jumped into Hed there were 3 waiting at the in point and they podded me. I was no threat in a shuttle, no alliance member, no anything to them, yet they podded me. I read in the forums they claim to be against Piracy. They said we are defending our space. In Catch? You are Curse Alliance not Catch alliance. And if you were defending your space, why are you camping the jump in toward Empire? Seems like a pirate tactic. Well, that's because you are pirates but hide behind your war with Stain to cover it up. At least real pirates have the balls to admit it, unlike you sorry pathetic pkers. Numbers are all you have. "We are not pirates", you say that because you are too afraid to be hunted by all who see you just like real pirates. Lame is the word of the day for CA
Allow me to retotrt. First off, you must know that some JIP's are for BOTH directions right? Secondly, Stain kills no combatants there all the time. Third, you need to post as your main if you want to be taken seriously. Sorry, a numpty muppent spouting about wanting to mine in Catch makes me laugh. You most likely are an alt of one our good friends who feels that the CA needs more press. Well, thanks I guess.
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Strata Drow
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Posted - 2003.11.26 22:30:00 -
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Actually I am fairly new to eve, and am not upset about being podded, I lost a shuttle, but I find it unsettling that CA claims they are against piracy when in actuality, you embrace it. Which is fine, but at least stand by it instead of shouting your holier than thou attitude. I have been corpless until now, think I'll find one that suits me, and not CA
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.26 22:40:00 -
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Quote: Actually I am fairly new to eve, and am not upset about being podded, I lost a shuttle, but I find it unsettling that CA claims they are against piracy when in actuality, you embrace it. Which is fine, but at least stand by it instead of shouting your holier than thou attitude. I have been corpless until now, think I'll find one that suits me, and not CA
Piracey is about making ISK, killing shuttles yields very little ISK. Itsx not piracy, its killing possible atls/spies which every alliance in Eve does. Go up to Venal or Fountain or Stain and see what happens to you.
Even you say you read the forums, thus you have no escuse. It has been said hundreds of times that HED and all of Catch is a war-zone. You have no excuse.
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Noctoz
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Posted - 2003.11.26 23:41:00 -
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Oh no!! Another alt is spamming the boards with piracy accusations. This will definately be the end of us. ------------------ NoctoZ Black Reign Curse Alliance |

Ocidious Prime
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Posted - 2003.11.27 01:17:00 -
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It seems all of eve from 0.4 to 0.0 is a war zone, and I am not an alt. I do not claim revenge and I do not shout out CA will fall, you have your thing and I have mine. If we meet, so be it, I know what to expect
If loving you is wrong, I don't want to be right. |

Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.11.27 01:26:00 -
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Quote: Secondly, Stain kills no{n} combatants there all the time.
Please... hardly ever. Each day we are opening up more lines of communication to make this almost non-existant. I think our rep for warning individuals to stay out of the way for their own safety is much higher than the CA's at this moment.
Always comparing yourselves to us, some might start to think you guys are trying to make up for something. 
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.27 02:18:00 -
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No, I am simply saying that you do that for which we are flamed. If you can't understand that its not my fault or job to educate you.
Btw, we "hardly" ever kill ppl in catch. Are you meaning to tell me that you never killed a noob corp guy in Catch? Cause you killed an alf of mine a few times. Since you could never have known it was mine, it proves you kill indescriminatly.
No, I would want to be compared to you and your self ritcheous lackeys. CA alows corps to join and contribue with us. We do not thumb our noses at the rest of the Eve community and greddily hoard resources for a few individuals.
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Scragg
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Posted - 2003.11.27 03:30:00 -
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Quote: Btw, we "hardly" ever kill ppl in catch. Are you meaning to tell me that you never killed a noob corp guy in Catch? Cause you killed an alt of mine a few times. Since you could never have known it was mine, it proves you kill indescriminatly.
So your now a self admitted coward that keeps your alts in noob corps and do not identify yourself as a CA member. Any noobs that get killed from this point forward can thank the CA and The Reclaimer for their untimely death.
Just to remind folks, Curse and the surronding area is a WAR ZONE. That means people are SHOOTING at each other and even KILLING each other. Some people may be MISTAKEN for enemy ships since the ENEMY likes to HIDE in NOOB CORPS and non-flagged corps. If you don't want to GET SHOT either don't come out here or make REAL SURE people know AHEAD OF TIME you are not a spy, a cowardly CA guy hidiing, or supporting the Curse Alliance of pirates in any way.
The area will remain a war zone until peace and order can be resotred, the Curse Alliance of Pirates ejects the pirates from their alliance and, the The Reclaimer writes 1000 times on the black board.. I was a bad monkey.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation Vice-Director Military Operations |

Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2003.11.27 04:10:00 -
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Edited by: Dust Puppy on 27/11/2003 04:10:59 I still don¦t see why you podded him. If he is an alt then he don¦t care if he is podded. If he is a misguided new player then it¦s just mean. Yes I know ppl who travel in low sec are not newbies. But you must see my point. __________ Capacitor research |

The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.27 05:36:00 -
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I dont see your point at all. The only reason a noob would be in that area is to spy. He even said he reads the forums, so how foolish is it to go there?
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2003.11.27 06:06:00 -
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Edited by: Dust Puppy on 27/11/2003 06:08:41 Do you mean a noob who has just got the game is working as a spy? Ok I¦m willing to believe that. So he has cheap clone and is sponsered by a faction, the loss of a clone means nothing to him or the faction. The only person who could possibly lose something that is of value to him is a misguided noob who is there in with honest intentions. So by podding someone in a shuttle you do knowone harm unless he is a misguided noob.
Edit: I have nothing against CA I¦m just saying that perhaps the podkill was an overkill __________ Capacitor research |

HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.11.27 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: HavokTBP on 27/11/2003 06:49:55 Hey I got it, it solves all problems. When we say were protecting or guarding our space. That's any space we choose at any given time. How many others can do that? 
But really, SA an CA are at war an catch is a travel route no matter how far, we could think of you as some SA mining fleet in catch an when we get there see your someone else but decide hell we made the trip out there might as well kill them. What you have to understand is your in dangerous territory. An I really don't think one can be pirates in 0.0 space, thatÆs just some noob thing in empire space.
Also just a FYI, catch is a system next to curse and we have to patrol an guard systems on our boarders. Travel is at your risk.
Member of the Curse Alliance before the Corruption Leader of The Black Plague.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2003.11.27 07:02:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: HavokTBP on 27/11/2003 06:49:55 Hey I got it, it solves all problems. When we say were protecting or guarding our space. That's any space we choose at any given time. How many others can do that? 
But really, SA an CA are at war an catch is a travel route no matter how far, we could think of you as some SA mining fleet in catch an when we get there see your someone else but decide hell we made the trip out there might as well kill them. What you have to understand is your in dangerous territory. An I really don't think one can be pirates in 0.0 space, thatÆs just some noob thing in empire space.
Also just a FYI, catch is a system next to curse and we have to patrol an guard systems on our boarders. Travel is at your risk.
I¦m sorry I¦m very tired so I may be mistaking. Wasn¦t the original poster complaining about CA saying they were not pirates but still performing pirate activities.
Now I¦m not saying CA are pirates I¦m just saying they may be guilty of unnecissery roughness 
And even if you are at war then there is no need to blast innocent bystanders. A more humane way would be to warp jam, webify him and then convo him and make a decision whether he is a menace or not.
Of course if CA are pirates then their actions are well understandeble
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.27 08:06:00 -
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I repeat, pirates are in the business to make isk are they not? Killing a noob ship or a shuttle makes little. Besides, there is/was no reason to be in catch. Only alliance members should be there as all that space is closed off is it not? Is there anyone who doesnt believe its an alt of a CA enemy?
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2003.11.27 08:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dust Puppy on 27/11/2003 08:28:56 That was my point it doesn¦t matter if he was. You will see that if you look at what CA gains of blowing him up and what he loses
OK I¦m done arguing today. In conclusion I just want to say... or ask, when there is nothing to gain from podding someone why do you still do it. __________ Capacitor research |

The Monk
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Posted - 2003.11.27 13:27:00 -
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i was the one that killed that n00b pilot. doesnt make me a pirate though. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |

Callia
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Posted - 2003.11.27 14:20:00 -
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Quote: i was the one that killed that n00b pilot. doesnt make me a pirate though.
You can say that all you like, but the population at large is quite capable of drawing their own conclusions as to what they think you are.
Simply stating you are not a pirate is hardly a convincing argument.
Your case would be stronger if you posted an explanation that might persuade people your actions were justified. Who are you to tell me to question authority? |

The Monk
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Posted - 2003.11.27 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: The Monk on 27/11/2003 16:15:13 Edited by: The Monk on 27/11/2003 16:13:48 in which case anyone that kills another in eve is a pirate... where is the logic 
i dont think people understand what a pirate really is.
piÀrate
1. a.One who robs at sea or plunders the land from the sea without commission from a sovereign nation.
b.A ship used for this purpose.
2. One who preys on others; a plunderer.
3. One who makes use of or reproduces the work of another without authorization.
4.One that operates an unlicensed, illegal television or radio station.
basicaly the guy i killed was in a shuttle. what was i hopeing to plunder of it???? answer is i wasnt expecting to find anything. so how am i a pirat if i wasnt plundering?? ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |

Callia
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Posted - 2003.11.27 16:22:00 -
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Quote: in which case anyone that kills another in eve is a pirate... where is the logic 
Read my post again.
You are putting words in my mouth and thoughts in my head which I do not have.
What I said was that people will make up their own minds what they think. If you want them to think what you think, you need to persuade them. I did not think you were doing a very good job of that.
Nowhere in my post do I state my opinion on what makes someone a pirate or not.
For the record I think calling someone a pirate here is pointless because it seems to mean many different things to many different people. It is not a very accurate way of expressing myself.
Instead I read what people say and about what they do. I then categorise them for myself as people I like or do not like or somewhere in between. Most people, like yourself come in the in between category until they have done something to be liked or disliked.
I dislike unjustified killing and you have not yet justified yourself. I give you the benefit of the doubt. Once I have read your justification, if you bother with one, I will decide if I think I agree or not. Not posting a justification will lead me to other conclusions.
None of that is a challenge to you. Look on it as an opportunity change your reputation as you wish. Who are you to tell me to question authority? |

The Monk
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Posted - 2003.11.27 16:25:00 -
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my argument is that im not a pirate since i dont kill people for their loot if that was the case i would be tracking down indies. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |

Callia
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Posted - 2003.11.27 16:30:00 -
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Quote: my argument is that im not a pirate since i dont kill people for their loot if that was the case i would be tracking down indies.
An argument which shifts you more toward my disliked pole.
Since I assume this is what you wanted, I doubt you care. Which is fine by me. I am still glad we had this little chat :). Who are you to tell me to question authority? |

SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2003.11.27 17:21:00 -
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boring
kthx kthx "Teh lord of Nonni"
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