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Retard Ray
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:09:00 -
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Edited by: Retard Ray on 25/12/2006 02:11:39
I leave my computer on like... all day long. it might get restarted a few times a week. My co-worker says that its really bad for your computer and it should be cut off when your not using it. I understand a computer should be restared here and there, but turning it off all the time is crap. Not sure if its good or bad to leave it on or off. just wanted to see if anyone can shed some light on this meaningless discusion?!
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Benco97
Gallente
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:10:00 -
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Edited by: Benco97 on 25/12/2006 02:20:49
Edited by: Benco97 on 25/12/2006 02:19:41
 Originally by: Retard Ray
You should leave it on, at least until the bleeding stops.
EDIT - ahh, with the inclusion of details I can be of some help.
While computers can definately be left on for great amounts of time I wouldn't reccomend it, the shut-down/start-up process does a little light maintainance as it runs. Leaving it on means your HDD will die faster, think of all the hours that you'll not be using it but it's systems are powered up, fans wear faster, cooling systems become less efficient. Yes, shut it down when you're done unless you need to leave it on, surely it's not THAT long a wait to turn it on again?
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justforanxmasgift
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:15:00 -
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Edited by: justforanxmasgift on 25/12/2006 02:15:36
The PC doesnt care if its on or off - can get picky and HDD's care but you'll grow out of it before it blows up if it wasn't a Maxtor - it's good for the OS to get a reboot now and then.
I'd leave it off though and help save the planet and some electricity when you are not using it.
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Lag Hon
Minmatar
Lag Hon Security
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:18:00 -
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Leave it running, PCs today are designed to be left running all the time these days, the only precautions I take with mine are surge protectors on its power socket and phoneline. A shutdown/reboot once a day will help keep memory cleared of any leaks that accumulate from faulty software and also allows the OS to reset itself and install any updates. A screensaver is a must to preserve your monitors life and if yopu want to save a couple of cents over the year in power you can set the whole system to go into standby mode after a period of inactivity.
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Retard Ray
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:20:00 -
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Whats the differance between standby and the "Turn Hard disk off" option?
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Lag Hon
Minmatar
Lag Hon Security
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:26:00 -
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Standby brings the whole system into semi shutdown it powers down 90% of the board including vid/audio cards etc leaving only a small part monitoring keyboard and mouse to detect if you want to use again. Turn harddrive off simply turns only the harddrive off, its a leftover of the old days when harddrives had to be "parked". Parking would move the heads away from the magnetic disks to prevent them from being bent out of shape by the weight of the heads sitting on them. Modern Harddrives have much lighter heads and autopark whenever they are not reading/writing data.
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Soulita
Gallente
Inner Core
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:27:00 -
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Leaving the PC running is better for the PC - unless you got it parked near some heating device 
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Barry Cuda
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:27:00 -
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Startup takes more electricity than a computer just idling for a while. Plus, temperature changes from turning on and off causes more wear than staying hot all the time.
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Khan Dhu
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.12.25 02:29:00 -
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The answer to your question is: whatever you feel like.
Does your computer take half an hour to boot up? If no, you're probably better off leaving it off when you're not using it. Not because it'll kill your computer faster if you don't, but because it's fastly becoming a bad (and expensive) habit. It's getting to a point where computers are going to suck down about as much current as a washer/dryer or refridgerator - and we're almost there with 1kW+ PSUs and the heat some processors are capable of.
I'll leave out the people who use phase-change cooling systems who ALREADY have a computer that sucks down as much wattage as a good-sized fridge.
Even if you don't give a damn about the environment, give a damn about your electric bill. Also, no one can probe your computer when it's off.
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tadig smik
Taintclan Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.25 03:39:00 -
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on, off, on, off... hot, cold, hot, cold... expand, contract, expand, contract... fatigue.
i'd say leave it on unless you're leaving town. reboot it every couple of days...
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2006.12.25 04:17:00 -
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I read somewhere, long ago though, that the process of startup/shutdown for HDD equals to 10 hour of working.
Maybe it's outdated concept though.
I think it's safe to leave it on if you use liquid cooling system, when there are few coolers and low noise.
However environmentalists will not agree with this definitely.
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Jaabaa Prime
Dental Drilling Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.25 04:22:00 -
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Pros and cons ....
Pro ON:
1) Less wear and tear to mechanical parts (HD)
2) Most things pop when they are turned on (how many people have seen a light bulb pop when it is not being switched on?).
Pro OFF:
1) Your electricity bill (all that utilised power).
2) Related to 1), the environment.
So it's basically what ever floats your boat and depends on how good your backup system is.
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Ryker Blade
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Posted - 2006.12.25 04:48:00 -
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I had a computer I built and hosted a Ventrilo server on, so I just left it on. I rebooted every 3 or 4 days and once every 2 months I'd take it apart and clean all the fans and dust out of it. All in all, it was off a total of maybe 3 or 4 days out of an entire year. The only problem I had was when I moved and had no internet and started turning it off when I finished with what I was doing. My psu blew up (literally.. parts fell out of it when i shook it trying to figure out what was wrong with it) about 2 months after I started my on-off habit. It depends really.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.12.25 04:51:00 -
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Shut it down when you go to sleep. Otherwise, if you're around hte house or using it off and on, leave it going.
For me, I always leave it on. Mobo/PSU died last week, both were nearly three years old and ran the whole time cept for, possibly, a month. Best thing to do is to backup everyting that's dear to you on external media. I do, peace of mind is always nice.
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Lowanaera
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.25 04:55:00 -
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The only time I turn off a PC is for hardware upgrades or blackouts. The only time I reboot is when required by critical updates (not often since 2k and especially XP came out). I've been doing this since my Celeron 300A, and have often hit 6 month+ uptimes. It's quite common for geeks to do so, especially if running any kind of distributed computing app (Prime95, SETI, etc).
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subvert
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Posted - 2006.12.25 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: subvert on 25/12/2006 07:59:28
I leave it on.
I think as a general rule leaving it on is better for most of your computer, and worse for the fans. Leaving it off is better for the fans, but worse for many parts. This is because of heating changes in most of the parts. As time goes by leaving it on might cause the fans to be more noisy, but you can replace them if they ever give you trouble.
As someone pointed out, computers are designed to be left on. Think about when you visit a web page, it's up 24/7, because the web server is on 24/7. Servers only go down for maintenance and upgrades. Even the EVE servers probably don't power off during downtime, just get tweaks as needed and reboot.
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Koti Resci
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:06:00 -
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Two words: thermal shock
When your computer is off, your computer is, quite literally, cold. When your computer has been running for a while (a half hour at the most), it is, quite literally, hot. Now, ask any physics major what happens when things turn from cold to hot in a short amount of time: it *****s.
However, given the price of electricity these days, running a computer 24/7 (or even close to) can cost a small fortune. I run four computers 24/7 in my home, and about a dozen more between 8/7 to 16/7. I pay about $600/mo (USD) for electricity. Most computers last between 3 to 5 years.
You decide which is more cost effective.
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Koti Resci
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: subvert
I think as a general rule leaving it on is better for most of your computer, and worse for the fans.
Fans are extremely cheap compared to the cost of most CPUs, memory sticks, motherboards, graphics cards, any other expansion cards, or any combination thereof.
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subvert
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Koti Resci
Fans are extremely cheap compared to the cost of most CPUs, memory sticks, motherboards, graphics cards, any other expansion cards, or any combination thereof.
thanks captain obvious 
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:57:00 -
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You prolly save a few hundred dollars a year on electricity turning it off.
What do you gain by keeping it on?
I use computer devices literally all day long, I generally don't see a difference in wear and tear between leaving it on or off.
I leave servers on for years, they're fine.
I turn my pc's and laptops on and off daily, they're fine.
Soooo it's all about the electric bill and nothing else.
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Galk
Gallente
Autumn Tactics
All the things she said
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Soulita
Leaving the PC running is better for the PC - unless you got it parked near some heating device
What you mean, the pc is the heating device when you leave it on 24/7
As for it, i once had 16 days uptime on windows millennium connected on a dial up (ok it was isdn) continuously the whole time.
hard to beat me thinks
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:46:00 -
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Servers are designed to keep running all the time, our home PCs and laptops are not. However, they easily can.
I switch my computer off when I leave the house for more then a couple hours, or when I go to bed. It reduces the electricity bill and protects the environment.
Juwi Kotch
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SonOTassadar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Galk
i once had 16 days uptime on windows millennium
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Grez
Minmatar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:47:00 -
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Leave it on, download a defrag tool like Diskeeper, and set it to run a continous defragment from 3 am > 7 am everynight. Eitherway, your PC won't care :)
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Wokrred
ZiTek
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:02:00 -
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The basic rule to guide you on this is how much you use your computer. For me it's on nearly 24/7 unless I know the household is going to be empty for a extended amount of time (8 to 10 hours at least). Why? Because if I'm not on playing Eve, checking fourms, doing my checkbook or browsing the web then someone else in the house will be on it doing something (normaly while I'm at work). The most time my machine doesn't get any use is about 3 hours (I work graveyard btw). If it was shutdown everytime someone was done with it would be turned on agian within a hour or two.
Now for my mother that uses her computer maybe once a day (most times less than that). The one thing I managed to teach her was once you turn it on for the day (say after work) to leave it on till going to bed to avoid the on/off/on/off syndrome to avoid undue stress to the components.
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subvert
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Posted - 2006.12.25 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Juwi Kotch
Servers are designed to keep running all the time, our home PCs and laptops are not. However, they easily can.
tell that to google
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Griffen Hawk
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Posted - 2006.12.27 07:58:00 -
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actually, a running computer consumes about the same amount of power as a lightbulb.
about 60-100w while under load, in "sleep mode" it can consume as little as 2w.
as long as you turn your monitor off while not using your computer, youre not wasting a lot of energy at all. also, a computer uses about 3 amps while booting up, and about 1 - 1.5 amps while running. (used to run the electrical circuits at alot of LAN's, so i had to know these things)
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