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Slave Master
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:20:00 -
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Agent missions are incredibly slow with my apoc because i can't hit those frigates to save myself. I rely on my 3 drones to take them down which can be very slow indeed. I have had some ingame mates recommend that I use a heavy assault cruiser for level 3 missions but im about 35 days of training off being able to fly one. Is a battleship the next best choice for lvl 3 missions? Or are there some magic assault frigate or cruiser setups that i don't know about which work better?
On a second note, if i throw 2 small guns on my apoc, can i track small frigates as well as if i were flying a small ship with small guns? Im thinking maybe thats the best option to kill those pesky little frigates.
Lastly, i've been inactive for about a year and only recently came back to see whats happening in the world of eve. Last time i played i trained up large beam specialization to lvl 5 and it seems everyone nowdays uses mega pulse lasers >.< ! Did i waste all my time on beams? Or can beams be usefull too on ships nowdays?
Thanks :D
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Zeerover
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Posted - 2006.12.25 11:57:00 -
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Why have you not considered using a battlecruiser for your lvl3s? Works quite well to down both frig's, cruisers and npc bships. |
Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.25 12:18:00 -
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Longrange weapons are useless to hit firgs at close ranges, thats pretty much of a no-brainer.
Train up your drone skills, drones 5, drone interfacing 4, scout drones 5 and 5 light drones of the right type will kill the frigs fast.
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Lowanaera
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:44:00 -
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Beams are very useful (especially for fleet PvP), you just have to use them properly. Use mega or tachyon beams and engage from 75km+ out. Tracking frigs won't be an issue at that range. Though you'll still often miss due to their tiny sig radius compared to that of your large weapons, it only takes a few hits to kill a frig with those weapons.
On missions where you get dropped directly into a frig swarm, yes, you're going to have to rely on your drones to kill them, so training up your drone skills is important. Just tank them while you blow up everything else (or if there is nothing else, turn on the repper and alt-tab to the forums for a while), it's not like frigs do a lot of DPS.
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Ankanos
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.12.25 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ankanos on 25/12/2006 14:03:14
-or just mount cruiser based beams and a tracking pc.
-ank
ps.. you can still use plain old cruisers
for most l3's..maller with frig weapons is
good fun and *ahem* a challenge.. or step up to a
BC for more of a safety margin.
and as others have said.. drones...5 light, 5 medium
w/skills are quite effective.. just aggro first &
keep an eye on'em..
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Gabs
Gallente
Eternal Silence Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.12.25 15:32:00 -
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Big guns are heavy and aim very slow. Beams aim slower than pulses. Look at tracking numberts on the guns. To hit small and fast frigs orbiting you, you need small guns, or web and target painter on them. It should make it possible for you to hit them with medium sized guns.
Have a look at
tracking guide.
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Arushia
Nova Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.27 02:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Slave Master
Agent missions are incredibly slow with my apoc because i can't hit those frigates to save myself. I rely on my 3 drones to take them down which can be very slow indeed.
Only 3 drones? Are you using heavies (which suck against frigs) or do you only have the skill to use 3 drones?
Train Drones 5 and Drone Interfacing 3 or better if you haven't already, and load your drone bay with 5 mediums and 5 lights. Frigates NPCs will no longer be a problem.
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Vestah
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.27 04:55:00 -
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I actually use some small guns on my ship, along with drones. You can also try to add some assault launchers or heavy launchers instead of small guns. For awhile I still ran into problems where some frigates would have such good regen and resist my drones and small guns would not be able to take them out, especially if I had lost a few drones earlier. Tech 2 drones and better drone & gun skills helped end that problem.
As you wait for your skills to rise, you could try to use two of the best named stasis webifiers you can buy, for when they close in 10km. Or even a pulse laser + dual webifiers build on your battleship. The tracking on pulse lasers are better then beams and pulse lasers have some of the best range for short range weapons, but pulse lasers do have the worst tracking of all the short range weapons. If you have a slot free that will not compromise your tank, some sort of tracking enhancer or tracking computer would help.
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.12.27 09:42:00 -
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As allready stated, you have a setup that is for fighting large ships (battleships), not medium and small ships.
Switch to smaller guns and drones, and lvl 3's will be a breeze in an Apoc.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente
Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.12.27 09:47:00 -
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8 Medium Beam II
100mn AB
Some propulsion mods will speed up your level 3 missions, (or using a Bc  )
Make sure you have a web fitted. Btw 2 * Fleeting Web's will let you hit frigs with LARGE pulse lasers at close range.
Alliaanna
DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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