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Peter Perfect
Murder of Crows E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.12.25 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Peter Perfect on 25/12/2006 21:12:43 Since Rev came out i decided, just randomly, to go back to a T1 cruisers for "Semi" cheep T1 Cruiser hunting. This thing has a punch but not much on the durability front. It relies on winning a fight then getting clear to a station to rep up! Cyclone is the best ive killed in this.
Highs: 5x Heavy Ion Blaster II's (Loaded with Void)
Mids: X5 Webber J5 20K scram Named MWD (Overcharged Hydrocarbon if I remember the name right)
Lows: 1x Tracking Enhancer II 3x Mag Stab II's 1x N-type Explosive hardener (N-type for CPU reasons)
Drone Bay: Explosive Mediums - Valkeries (T1 atm cos im still training for T2 drones).
Possable Changes: Whipping the Tracking Enhancer out for the adaptive nano to boost overall resistance. however I find I need it for close range.
However, with that out i could drop the Valkeries, shove in a pair of Webber drones and put a tracking computer in.
Also to make it a bit more self reliant prehaps some armour repping drones?
Anyway that my solo hunter. not very durable however with a damage mod of 7.596 and a DPS of 310 with drones? I like that.
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Kyra Osala
Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.25 21:41:00 -
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Looks like a pretty decent gank setup. I'ld swap the tracking enhancer for a small rep for convenience reasons. (Looks like you can't fit a medium.) You shouldn't have any tracking problems as long as you aren't orbiting close to your target. If you want more resists though, put a damage control instead of an EANM. It simply gives you a lot more effective hp, especially without a tank.
I'ld rather use a more tank-oriented 'Rax for solo work though:
High: 5x Heavy Electron Blaster
Med: 1x 10mn Microwarpdrive 1x Warp Disruptor 1x Stasis Webifier
Low: 1x 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plate 1x Small Armour Repairer 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1x Damage Control 1x Reactor Control Unit
Valkyries in drone bay.
For even more tank, use four light neutrons and a medium nos in highs, dropping the small rep and RCU for a medium rep and another EANM.
You can't use armour repair drones on yourself by the way. 
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Flaming sambuka
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.12.25 21:46:00 -
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5x neutron's
mwd/web/scram
2x rcu, 2x magstab, 1x med rep
5x med drones
thats gank, try it out :D
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Riho
Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolance
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Posted - 2006.12.25 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Osala Looks like a pretty decent gank setup. I'ld swap the tracking enhancer for a small rep for convenience reasons. (Looks like you can't fit a medium.) You shouldn't have any tracking problems as long as you aren't orbiting close to your target. If you want more resists though, put a damage control instead of an EANM. It simply gives you a lot more effective hp, especially without a tank.
I'ld rather use a more tank-oriented 'Rax for solo work though:
High: 5x Heavy Electron Blaster
Med: 1x 10mn Microwarpdrive 1x Warp Disruptor 1x Stasis Webifier
Low: 1x 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plate 1x Small Armour Repairer 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1x Damage Control 1x Reactor Control Unit
Valkyries in drone bay.
For even more tank, use four light neutrons and a medium nos in highs, dropping the small rep and RCU for a medium rep and another EANM.
You can't use armour repair drones on yourself by the way. 
very nice fit... but i think it needs AWU4 and a t2 RCU ? atm flying most of the time: 5x electron t2 mwd, scram, web med t2 rep, 800mm plate, eanm t2, dcu, mag stab t2
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5x ion t2 t2 mwd, web, scram med rep t2, rcu, eanm t2, 2x mag stab t2
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Pattern Clarc
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.12.25 21:59:00 -
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With 3 powergrid rigs.
5x Neutron Blaster II's with Null (6km range + 7km falloff) or Void if your in range
10mn MWD web scramb
800mm steel plate II 2x EANM II's Explosive Hardener II IFA
5x Valkyrie II
 change hardeners for MFS II's if you know your not gonna be called primary and the plate for an iStab Sig removed lacks EVE content, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus |

Peter Perfect
Murder of Crows E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.12.25 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Flaming sambuka 5x neutron's mwd/web/scram 2x rcu, 2x magstab, 1x med rep 5x med drones thats gank, try it out :D
how you fit a medium rep on that is ******* beyond me. even with AWUG at level 5 i dont get that fitted. could only pull that off with RCU II's and AWUG at 5! unless QF is ******* wiht me which im sure the new meta might very well be.
however basing that with a small repper it only seems to produce a DPS of 294 through quickfit. 16 less DPs than my fitting for only small armor rep gains!
HOWEVER!
throwing that repper away and with enough CPU to fit another magstab we have a DPS of 331. pew pew! 
Originally by: Kyra Osala You shouldn't have any tracking problems as long as you aren't orbiting close to your target.
Blasters + Void = a 2500 meter optimal so coice of sitting still so u can hit and hope your target does the same. or let the tracking mod help out!
btw this thing has killed intys happily crow, maladiction and ranis thus far. aint had a stileto added yet! ill be happy once ive got one of those nifty buggers painted on my hull!
Originally by: Kyra Osala If you want more resists though, put a damage control instead of an EANM. It simply gives you a lot more effective hp, especially without a tank.
As you can see there no EANM on my setup atm. didnt even sugest one. Just an adaptive nano. mostly because that fitting has only 1 CPU left! through if i did use a EANM i would just plop in a damage mod and gain hull and shield resists too. Only reason i have an explosive hardener is simply because is covers up the lowest resist.
however im thinking to replace that. because Hybrids and Lasers only kick out EM, Thermal and Kinetic. Only certain missiles and projectile ammo throw out explosive damage! so why bother and throw in something else like.... another mag stab? 329 DPS anyone? damage mod of 7.811? lol
however i think im gonna try Kyra's tanking rax.
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.25 22:12:00 -
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5x Heavy Electron II w/Void Y-T8 Mwd, Fleeting 20k, X5 Web Medium T2 Repairer, F85 DCU, 2x Mag Stab II, 800mm Crystalline
5x Valkyrie II
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Antodias
Puppets on Steroids
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Posted - 2006.12.25 22:12:00 -
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Edited by: Antodias on 25/12/2006 22:14:10 Well if you want the buffer tank setup:
4x Light Neutron II w/Void 1x Medium named Nosferatu
Distruptor Web MWD
1x Small Armor Repairer 1x Damage Control 2x EANM II 1x 1600mm tungsten
The plate keeps you alive longer than any other cruiser and most battlecruisers. Which gives you plenty of time to wear away a battlecruiser sized tank.
Plus it's always nice to be able to kill friggies and ceptors without having to field light drones. ------------------------------------ It's great being a Dev, isn't it? |

FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.26 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Antodias Edited by: Antodias on 25/12/2006 22:14:10 Well if you want the buffer tank setup:
4x Light Neutron II w/Void 1x Medium named Nosferatu
Distruptor Web MWD
1x Small Armor Repairer 1x Damage Control 2x EANM II 1x 1600mm tungsten
The plate keeps you alive longer than any other cruiser and most battlecruisers. Which gives you plenty of time to wear away a battlecruiser sized tank.
Plus it's always nice to be able to kill friggies and ceptors without having to field light drones.
If u go that way.
5x 150mm Railgun II Mwd, 20k, Webber 1600mm RT plate, Medium T2 Repper, 2x EANM II, F85 DCU
5x Valkyrie II (This is the I-WTFPWN-U-ALL drones)
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Xerpex
Ars Caelestis
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Posted - 2006.12.26 01:33:00 -
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What about this:
5*Light Neuts II MWD, Scram, Med Booster 2*Med Reps, EANM, Energized reactive, 800mm plate
The dual reps can tank a lot, however, there isn't enough armor to provide a proper buffer for them to work on, thus the 800mm plate is needed. Otherwise, you can get killed by dps that your reps can easily tank because the armour just runs out in between reps. This setup will tank most bc's, and can tank sentries for a while.
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Fodderrr
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Posted - 2006.12.26 02:02:00 -
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sorry but im a bit doubtful that it was a skilled/experienced cyclone pilot being killed by that, usually guaranteed nos fitted and without a plate or repairer fitted im pretty sure it would of been able to cut down through your armor pretty quick.
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Peter Perfect
Murder of Crows E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.12.26 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Fodderrr sorry but im a bit doubtful that it was a skilled/experienced cyclone pilot being killed by that, usually guaranteed nos fitted and without a plate or repairer fitted im pretty sure it would of been able to cut down through your armor pretty quick.
Ill happilly admit that im not sure if it WAS an experianced pilot. or maybe i caught him with a setup he had ment for something else. There was no nos it was Artys and heavy missiles. probabally a distance support setup.
This is the problem with looking at ages now, charaters change hands so aften that you look at 2004 pilots and now go... hummmm
and also your point just smacks of what people used to say about small ships killing bigger ships in EvE's earlier days. back when they came out it was unthinkable that an inty could kill a cruiser let alone anything larger. yer we now take it forgranted that these things are ******* deadly.inty could kill
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Riho
Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolance
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Posted - 2006.12.26 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Pattern Clarc With 3 powergrid rigs.
5x Neutron Blaster II's with Null (6km range + 7km falloff) or Void if your in range
10mn MWD web scramb
800mm steel plate II 2x EANM II's Explosive Hardener II IFA
5x Valkyrie II
 change hardeners for MFS II's if you know your not gonna be called primary and the plate for an iStab
nice fit.. but im not about to spend 300mil or so on a thorax :P
ill buy a deimos and fit it whit that isk and the rigs
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xPreatorianx
Caldari Singularity.
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Posted - 2006.12.26 17:28:00 -
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I would rather use a BC because now adays a rax will just get raped. With all the new bcs out there just use a brutix or myr instead of the rax i think its the end for rax pilots. Just my 2 cents
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Badhands
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Posted - 2006.12.26 19:13:00 -
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4x Heavy Ion Blaster 1x Heavy Elec Blaster 7.5km scram mwd webber 2x mag stab damage control med repairer inertial stabilizer
I orbit at 1500 and have no problems with tracking. This all fits with only level 1 AWU.
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Mjala
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Posted - 2006.12.26 20:45:00 -
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a question, what do you kill all with those kinds of setups ???
noobs in frigs and cruisers ???
there are only 2 fittings where i would get scared in my thorax
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.26 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: FraXy on 26/12/2006 21:40:30
Originally by: Mjala a question, what do you kill all with those kinds of setups ???
noobs in frigs and cruisers ???
there are only 2 fittings where i would get scared in my thorax
Nobody stopping u from posting ur I-pwn-and-u-all-suck setup.
Fitting a ship is what people personally like to suit their fighting style. It may suck and be a hulltanking ineffective little frigate, but it`s their hulltanking ineffective little frigate.
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FireMonk
Caldari black viper corp
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Posted - 2006.12.26 22:15:00 -
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I would like to suggest my set-up.
4x Heavy Ion Blaster II 1x Small dimishing nosferatu
10mn YS-8 Overcharged Fleeting propulsion inhibitor 7.5km Scrambler
400mm Rolled tungsten 2x EANM II MAR II Mag Stab 2
Drones - 5x Vespa EC-600
I used to fly this set-up a lot and had a lot of fun with it its dmg output is ok with good skills. Although this set-up relies on the drones quite heavily to reduce any dmg dealt and is very effective against cruisers and smaller, although it is capable of killing bc's (killed a ferox with this set-up). The small NOS is just there to reduce the rate at which you lose cap as it is fairly cap intensive so good cap skills are advised. -----------------------
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Ozzie Asrail
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.26 22:43:00 -
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Either the elect+mar+800 or the neut+3xMagstabs
1600 and small guns will get beat by any skilled pilot with good gunnery\cap\tank SP. Try to ballance tank\gank and you'll get beat by any well fitted pilot. -----
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Antodias
Puppets on Steroids
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Posted - 2006.12.27 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Antodias on 27/12/2006 22:53:29
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail Either the elect+mar+800 or the neut+3xMagstabs
1600 and small guns will get beat by any skilled pilot with good gunnery\cap\tank SP. Try to ballance tank\gank and you'll get beat by any well fitted pilot.
Only other cruiser that has beaten me so far was another thorax who had T2 Heavy electrons (player was also older than me), and even then, he was down into about 30% structure when I popped.
The amount of times my small neutrons have saved me from ceptors and other fast ships was worth that loss to be honest, and the 1600mm plate offers longer survivability if you get jumped. ------------------------------------ It's great being a Dev, isn't it? |
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