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Elenoar	Posted - 2006.12.26 22:10:00 - [1] I deployed Sentry drones for the first time and told them to engage an enemy and they didn't leave my side or fire a single shot, even though their status showed as Fighting.... My Ogres would have been all over the enemy... am I doing something wrong?? TIA

Xorus Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.26 22:12:00 - [2] Sentry drones don't move they are long range drones, they are deployed and remain stationary while attempting to destroy the target. ---

Ace Combat Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.26 22:13:00 - [3] Sentry drones don't move, think of them as a little sentry gun, they may not have fired because your target was out of their range? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I remember the old description for Caldari.. light and nimble ships my ass. :(
Elenoar	Posted - 2006.12.26 22:15:00 - [4] Gotcha! Thanks!
Louis DelaBlanche Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.26 22:50:00 - [5] Sentry drones dont move, but their firing range is limited to your drones range. So if u have scout drone lvl5, you can shoot upto 45km with them. adding a Drone range control thing will add 20km to their firing range & so on. They pack a punch, but also struggle to hit fast moving ships. Theyre quite fun imo.
franny Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.12.27 07:49:00 - [6] the ewar drone skill increases drone control range too 57km drone range without a mod is nice CEO - PKKP Recruitment
Akane Miyamoto Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.27 09:25:00 - [7] Originally by: franny the ewar drone skill increases drone control range too 57km drone range without a mod is nice This only affects the EW drones.. Right? --------------------------------------------------
Fuujin Hadean Drive Yards	Posted - 2006.12.27 09:27:00 - [8] Originally by: Akane Miyamoto Originally by: franny the ewar drone skill increases drone control range too 57km drone range without a mod is nice This only affects the EW drones.. Right? Nope, all drones.
Akane Miyamoto Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.27 09:45:00 - [9] Buggy skill/description ftl? --------------------------------------------------
Tao Han Caldari Mountain of Moria	Posted - 2006.12.27 09:52:00 - [10] Originally by: Akane Miyamoto Buggy skill/description ftl? Quote: Allows operation of electronic warfare drones. 3000m drone control range bonus per level. Isnt that quite clear?
Akane Miyamoto Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.27 10:00:00 - [11] Originally by: Tao Han Isnt that quite clear? Originally by: Fuujin Originally by: Akane Miyamoto This only affects the EW drones.. Right? Nope, all drones. He might be just fooling me for my lack of knowledge but I know you didn't read the posts before replying --------------------------------------------------
Drachma Golea	Posted - 2006.12.27 11:03:00 - [12] I happen to love the sentries, in my ishtar, jumping in a level 3 mission, stay for about 100km out of every spawn, kick the sentries out, and they kill every spawn before they get like < 70km to you...
VaderDSL Caldari Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.27 13:09:00 - [13] Do remote tracking links work on entry drones? I was thinking, sentries have a tough time with tracking, maybe say on a domi, fitting some tracking links maybe that would help them hit faster moving ships?
Malakhan Gallente Phoenix Wing	Posted - 2006.12.27 13:12:00 - [14] Omnidirectional Tracking Link I ---
Deren Thaldrel Minmatar Black Watch Legionnaires Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.27 14:31:00 - [15] Originally by: Akane Miyamoto Originally by: Tao Han Isnt that quite clear? Originally by: Fuujin Originally by: Akane Miyamoto This only affects the EW drones.. Right? Nope, all drones. He might be just fooling me for my lack of knowledge but I know you didn't read the posts before replying Nah its true. I don't think the description is very clear either and didn't know about it till I'd already thrown a million sp into drones lol better late than never :)
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.27 18:31:00 - [16] the EW drone skill description is as unclear as the one for the advanced drone sinterfacing skill. But many people have a very high skill level at selective and interpretive reading. --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Malibu Stacey Gallente Playboy Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.27 19:36:00 - [17] Originally by: Deren Thaldrel Originally by: Akane Miyamoto Originally by: Tao Han Isnt that quite clear? Originally by: Fuujin Originally by: Akane Miyamoto This only affects the EW drones.. Right? Nope, all drones. He might be just fooling me for my lack of knowledge but I know you didn't read the posts before replying Nah its true. I don't think the description is very clear either and didn't know about it till I'd already thrown a million sp into drones lol better late than never :) Easy enough to test if you've trained the skill. Remove any Drone Link Augmentor's from your ship, target something a drone can be commanded to attack like an NPC rat which is <60km away from you & order your drones to attack it (I suggest using something other than EW drones for this test btw or it's pointless). You should see a message saying something along the lines of you can only command your drones to engage a target within x metres. The x is what we're interested in. I'd be interested in the results (as would any Gallente I think) as I use a Dominix for mission running & hence rely heavily on my drones. --- Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.12.27 19:37:00 - [18] yes CCP should say that the EW drone skill - boosts all drones at 3km per level on top of youre normal range bonuses its quite easy to do. Sentry drones are great tho in the right circumstances like gate camping etc. These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views This is a disclaimer
Koti Resci	Posted - 2006.12.28 04:18:00 - [19] Edited by: Koti Resci on 28/12/2006 04:18:13 Originally by: Malibu Stacey You should see a message saying something along the lines of you can only command your drones to engage a target within x metres. The x is what we're interested in. 2006.10.18 23:14:48 Notify Of the 3 drones you commanded, 0 accepted the command and 3 could not accept it for various reasons.
franny Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.12.28 04:42:00 - [20] I get 57km out of my T2 Heavy drones in my domi when ratting the high slots are 2 * tractor beam, 4 * salvagers although the damn things go stupid after about 45km anyway CEO - PKKP Recruitment
Malibu Stacey Gallente Playboy Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.28 13:29:00 - [21] Originally by: Koti Resci 2006.10.18 23:14:48 Notify Of the 3 drones you commanded, 0 accepted the command and 3 could not accept it for various reasons. Strange I get this: Quote: 2006.12.28 13:19:23 Notify Combat Drone cannot be commanded to work on that target because any targets have to be within 45000.0 m of your ship. I had a structure targeted at 50km, turned off my Drone Link Augmentors & did an "Engage Target" on the drone group. I was using heavy drones (tested with both Orge I's & Beserker I's). Originally by: franny I get 57km out of my T2 Heavy drones in my domi when ratting the high slots are 2 * tractor beam, 4 * salvagers although the damn things go stupid after about 45km anyway Sounds like it's a definite then. Yeah I notice them doing weird things after 45km & I use 2 Drone Link Augmentors on my Dominix (no EW Drone skill yet). Sometimes they just stop in space even though their status is still attacking & other times they just decide attacking what I've told them to is too much hassle & come back to orbit my ship. They also pick thier own targets contrary to what the Revelations patch notes would like us to believe. Sure they only seem to attack enemies which are already attacking me but they attack stuff I haven't targeted which is often what I don't want them to do. Wonder if Drones will ever be fixed & if we'll ever get hotkeys to command them instead of having to spam right click all the time. --- Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Perseus D'Solos	Posted - 2006.12.28 13:50:00 - [22] Originally by: franny I get 57km out of my T2 Heavy drones in my domi when ratting the high slots are 2 * tractor beam, 4 * salvagers although the damn things go stupid after about 45km anyway 45km? Lucky you, mine does only 25km before going stupid.
Herculite Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.28 14:31:00 - [23] Drones are special the same way children are special on the short bus as a rule. I was hoping the op was something legitimate so I could whine about how poorly drones are coded :) Some time open your drone window all the way so you can see status and damage. Send your drones > 45k using a drone link. Watch as after a while it 'pulses' and your drones, even though ordered to attack will go briefly idle. They will THEN aquire a target that aggros you, normally the wrong targets and fly off in that direction. This of course doesn't include such other fun things as the 'launch 5 dones and one of them launches 'dead'' bug or the 'recall dones and have them get stuck on each other bug'.
Valerian Xavier Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.28 15:36:00 - [24] Originally by: Herculite Drones are special the same way children are special on the short bus as a rule. I was hoping the op was something legitimate so I could whine about how poorly drones are coded :) Some time open your drone window all the way so you can see status and damage. Send your drones > 45k using a drone link. Watch as after a while it 'pulses' and your drones, even though ordered to attack will go briefly idle. They will THEN aquire a target that aggros you, normally the wrong targets and fly off in that direction. oh so annoying. really needs to be fixed Free HippoKing!
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2006.12.28 15:39:00 - [25] Drones are at times Dumber then mage pets in Everquest.
Resipsa Loquitor Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.28 15:45:00 - [26] Edited by: Resipsa Loquitor on 28/12/2006 15:48:23 Seems like Herc and I come back to this topic over and over again, just on different forums. Sentry drones do "creep" - they move at about 1m/s towards the target. I've used them to take down large structures before and have to "catch up" with them when done. That's about it for their movement. Generally, I'm a sentry fan, but they are limited in their purpose - slow targets like bs-s or structures. Use a drone link to extend their hitting range (the longer range kin and ex ones won't hit for opt+falloff without max distance + augmentation/emc skill) and a target painter to hit smaller stuff (nothing like single-salvo popping frigs and cruisers +65km out in a Domi before aggro; only on missions though). They can be frustrating to use like all drones - shooting at the wrong target on their own - but most of the frustration comes from the player doing dumb things, like leaving them behind. Still, they are quite useful at times, especially when the target likes to float out at far range and is slow (Sansha/BR/Officer bs-s) and your heavies are ssslllooowww (Gardes, you little fatty drones that get tangled on yourselves). I was hoping for t2 sentries - bonus range for the Garde or more damage for Curators. Would be kinda neat to see other types of "sentries", like missile, projectile, and beam sentries. Guess we'll see. siggy Res - It speaks for itself in a misspelled kind of way
Borasao	Posted - 2006.12.28 16:14:00 - [27] Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker Drones are at times Dumber then mage pets in Everquest. Is that possible?
Rigsta Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.12.28 17:14:00 - [28] Originally by: Herculite Some time open your drone window all the way so you can see status and damage. Send your drones > 45k using a drone link. Watch as after a while it 'pulses' and your drones, even though ordered to attack will go briefly idle. They will THEN aquire a target that aggros you, normally the wrong targets and fly off in that direction. This has nothing to do with drone links - I have 57km range from skills and my ogres still get bored when travelling long distances, and decide to attack something else. Originally by: Jim McGregor I felt the disturbance... it was like a million voices suddenly stopped whining for a second. Unfortunantly it then continued.
Vol Jbolaz Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.12.28 17:37:00 - [29] Just wanted to note something, yes any drone, sentries included, won't enage something outside of your control range, even if it is within their own weapon range. But the sentries have an optimal range and falloff range. So you may tell it to engage a target within your control range but find it missing since it is suffering a range penalty to hit. I love sentries in a rat hunter. You park near the belt in a Typhoon with torpedoes and some sentries and just lay waste. When the small ships get too close, recall the sentries (which are still beside you, so no need to wait) and launch some light or mediums to dispatch the little mobs. Sentries are great in any PvP situation where your ship is set up like a monitor. You sit in one place and deploy sentries. When you need to leave, recall and go. I want T2 sentries!

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