i likey the smack with all that RR, extremely justified

note - Rebirth remains a solo corp of roughly 30 active pilots. Knowing that we are MUCH smaller than most of our targets OMFG WE USE RR big shock right?

We are also one of the only empire dwelling corps that is fully capable of fighting heavily outnumbered and still maintaining above 80% efficiency. Most weeks we will see 300-500 kills but good fights, such as the one in the video VS Double Tap. and friends were us in 5x BS 2x Logi where they had 4x Logi and jamming ships as well as t3's and other things, they should realistically have won that fight but we are a tad bit better than them and their half-wit FC. =) Cheers for the DL though!

We are also one of the only empire dwelling corps that is fully capable of fighting heavily outnumbered and still maintaining above 80% efficiency.

Terrible video by a terrible corp. Not big surprise.

Considering all you do is camp rens undock all day most of the time, 30 pilots is ******* huge, especially when your average day involves dishonouring 1v1s and random ganks on people stupid enough to take from your cans expecting that you might actually fight instead of undocking the whole corp on them.

If you stopped relying on logi 100% of the time you might actually learn how to play the game m8, give it a try.

The corp you are in is not any better tbh. But then, you have a totally different playstyle that doesn't even is about going in close and personal in fights most of the times.

And the fact that lots of players here are whining like kids makes me wonder on how old you are and how much you knows about doing empire wars.

Now i'm not saying this is a very good movie, but for being a movie from an alliance that is living in empire, then the movie is all fine. The most funny part is that someone expect an empire video to be a 0.0 space style movie or anything like that is freaking funny.

To be a movie from an alliance that is living in empire mostly, then this movie is one of the best movies from empire i have seen in a long time. Even when there are some few mistakes / things that maybe shouldn't have been in the movie.

The rest of the fights are pretty good and shows what empire wars is all about and it also shows how to use Logistics when they really ARE needed. Logistics are normal to use in every fights and are part of how we fight. So you just have to live with it.

It's not GOD SQUADS fault that the enemies can't use Logistics in a good way that is needed in most fights in empire to be as most successful in most fights as possible. We are talking about empire wars / contracts where we mercs have to kill as much as possible while having as little as possible with losses.

Now, it might sounds like i'm defending what -END- is doing all the time. But i'm not. Some of their members have done things that makes their whole alliance looks like ****. But i know some of their members are very good at what they are doing, that is PVP. And what the other members have been doing shouldn't really make the rest of them to be badly automaticly.

The music was all fine, and it was some smacktalking, but that wasn't much, the footage was interesting to watch. But that's because i love doing empire wars my self when i have time. And the video quality was fine, but not good enough.

So if i would rate this movie from 1 to 10, then i would give it a 7.

My reaction:

In other words, smack talk coming from the amazing pilot Nightmare X about what PvP videos should be like. My mind is blown, I thought I had seen it all in your last thread.

I'm not talking about how PVP should be. I'm just trying to get some players to understand that the PVP in empire IS NOT like the PVP in 0.0 space.

That's what someone seems to have a problem to understand.

OOOOOOOOO I know what you mean, like you ran from me in your faction fit Vindi and arma from my T2 fit mael! Then when I begin to camp you guys in Jita, you pull the war dec the next day.

I know its only coincidence ...... right!?

Awesome vid about what empire war dec'ing corps are all about.......... nothing but ganks and neutral RR so they can run away or dock. Give neutral RR aggro timers and aggression, and watch the tears flow! omg they killed my rr ship! unfairs! lol.

Empire war corps are at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to pvp. and this video should be removed from the forums. So for all those thinking of downloading it, dont.

0rph4n empire wars working as intended

http://genos.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10051864

0rph4n empire wars working as intended

http://genos.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10051864

NightmareX posts in a thread, my immediate reaction:

http://tinyurl.com/3ql9zog

All i will say is learn2empirewars.

The corp you are in is not any better tbh. But then, you have a totally different playstyle that doesn't even is about going in close and personal in fights most of the times.

And the fact that lots of players here are whining like kids makes me wonder on how old you are and how much you knows about doing empire wars.

Now i'm not saying this is a very good movie, but for being a movie from an alliance that is living in empire, then the movie is all fine. The most funny part is that someone expect an empire video to be a 0.0 space style movie or anything like that is freaking funny.

To be a movie from an alliance that is living in empire mostly, then this movie is one of the best movies from empire i have seen in a long time. Even when there are some few mistakes / things that maybe shouldn't have been in the movie.

The rest of the fights are pretty good and shows what empire wars is all about and it also shows how to use Logistics when they really ARE needed. Logistics are normal to use in every fights and are part of how we fight. So you just have to live with it.

It's not GOD SQUADS fault that the enemies can't use Logistics in a good way that is needed in most fights in empire to be as most successful in most fights as possible. We are talking about empire wars / contracts where we mercs have to kill as much as possible while having as little as possible with losses.

Now, it might sounds like i'm defending what -END- is doing all the time. But i'm not. Some of their members have done things that makes their whole alliance looks like ****. But i know some of their members are very good at what they are doing, that is PVP. And what the other members have been doing shouldn't really make the rest of them to be badly automaticly.

The music was all fine, and it was some smacktalking, but that wasn't much, the footage was interesting to watch. But that's because i love doing empire wars my self when i have time. And the video quality was fine, but not good enough.

So if i would rate this movie from 1 to 10, then i would give it a 7.

i want my time back downloading this vid...terrible bullshit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhKtoLIASKQ&feature=player_embedded
We blobbed the **** out of these guys cause quite frankly they deserved it.

I want my time back for reading all of the useless whining and bitching...terrible bullshit.

Yeah, isn't that the only thing you can do to win over them ?

Well that actually works rather than shooting at drakes with blasters loaded with antimatter from 50 km

Well that actually works rather than shooting at drakes with blasters loaded with antimatter from 50 km

Well that actually works rather than shooting at drakes with blasters loaded with antimatter from 50 km

I want my time back for reading all of the useless whining and bitching...terrible bullshit.

Yeah, isn't that the only thing you can do to win over them ?

I'll rather shoot lots of stuffs no matter what the range is than not shooting anything at all

Im ashamed to be norwegian right now..

Seriously, we went over this allready. You are ********, dont drag the rest of us down u fgt

I'm not talking about how PVP should be. I'm just trying to get some players to understand that the PVP in empire IS NOT like the PVP in 0.0 space.

He god SO mad about this he broke one of the bones inside his hand having a punch rage on his desk

No more fapping for him!

...he started raging at us about going pvping and told us to leave comms, i got bored of the corp and left not long after.

Someone needs to post recordings of these rages. It would be infinitely more entertaining than this sh*t video....

You are ********. Die in a fire.

What you do is equal to dipshits camping a spawn point in an FPS and going 'hrrrr look at my kill stats'.

I love to see a vid thread with comments like this, it's like the early auditions in x factor

Some no talent fool reacting badly to criticism and then getting all defensive when his house of cards falls down around him with that horrible sinking feeling when reality knocks on the door and you are not just singing in your bedroom to a couple of freinds AND THEN you get Nightmare X making a **** wad of himself again. ( I see he still hasn't grown up yet, poor baby, at least he moved from Sisi to TQ now )

Too good to be true

Going to download this just to see how bad it is, and oh god I hope its awful, these things can make great viewing

Haha, oh god it was awful

Don't let that stop you doing more, you will learn one day what footage to use and what to bin.

Remember the average EVE player has the attention span of a gnat, and edit accordingly. Easy ganks station hugging remote repping high sec gank bears and horrible smack talking are ubiquitous in eve and not really worth putting in a vid. We have all seen it before.

There was some potential, I would advise you to read the comments in this thread and take them on board.

My advice is for you is to decide who your audience is, if your vids are for corp/gang members then what you doing is fine.

If you want to appeal to a wider audience, then you need to rethink a little. Watch it again or show it to a non eve playing friend and listen to his feedback

What was so awful with the movie?

Yes, i know there was some few ganks in the movie, but that doesn't make the rest of the movie to be any worser. The last fight is a good example on a good fight that happened.

I'm asking this question when you take it into consideration that this movie is made mostly from empire wars.

How do you want a movie made out from empire wars to be made then?

I'm pretty sure by reading the comments in this topic that someone still don't get empire and empire wars at all.

But on the other hand, this movie is not any worser than the typical PL Armor HAC FOTM faggotry movies or those movies where PL is dropping 10 Titans and 30 Super Carriers on 50 BS'es in 0.0 space or where PL is dropping 25-30 BS'es on 8-10 Battlecruisers via a Titan bridge in low sec .

Well, since we can't, with any fairness, say one persons opinion is more valid than anyone else's we can only take the collective opinion of those presented. It appears the majority agrees this movie is bad. Not sure why everyone continues to bicker.

I'm pretty sure by reading the comments in this topic that someone still don't get empire and empire wars at all.

Seriously, are you that stupid? I'm pretty sure by reading your comments in this topic that you still dont get eve at all.
PVP/Wars in EVE is what you want it to be and what you make out of it. You dont have to use all the lame **** but you do it .. and you get flamed for it. To justify it you tell us "learn2empirewars". Now who's the idiot?

Some longer time ago i did empire wars too and i never used neutral RR and guess what, you can acutally win if you use skill.

I dont wanna say: Dont use neut RR and all the other stuff the game offers, just dont fraps it and ***** everyone for negative comments or just deal with the comments in a MATURE way.

I got alot feedbacks and reports back on my movie on what i did wrong and did learn from it.

But on the other hand, this movie is not any worser than the typical PL Armor HAC FOTM faggotry movies or those movies where PL is dropping 10 Titans and 30 Super Carriers on 50 BS'es in 0.0 space or where PL is dropping 25-30 BS'es on 8-10 Battlecruisers via a Titan bridge in low sec .

You see my ticker and make an adhoc attack about PL videos without ever watching them.

I'll prefer to watch PVP movies from empire because some super gay alliances can't just cheat and drop some gay super carriers or anything like that **** in the middle of a fight in empire.

some super gay alliances can't just cheat and drop some gay super carriers

cheat and drop some... super carriers

lmbo

Prom would agree with all of us how uninteresting highsec wars are to watch (while some people may think this is fun and i'm not arguing there, people have different tastes in a game) and the counter argument you are currently use simply would not have any basis.

Prom does not use links, neutral RR (or any RR for that matter), faction implants, blobs or any gang at all, "cheating" titans about to bridge in a faction fleet etc etc etc.

The only outcome of you CONSTANTLY defending what is a fairly boring video in the eyes of the majority just makes you look like a stubborn fool who's trying to prove something no one cares about.

Again, if someone don't like empire wars movies, then SIMPLY don't download the movie and don't even comment in the topic about it then.

Furthermore, if someone does not like the opinions of others on the video in hand, then SIMPLY don't reply to it.


All of us get empire wars and how they operate, pretty much everyone over a year old in eve gets it. THAT is not the subject of the argument. The subject is the video is boring and makes little effort to entice the viewer into watching more.

A key factor in the success behind a pvp video (apart from editing and pilot skill) is to induce a sense of risk into the viewer so they are thinking "damn is he going to die?" and at the end of the fight it ends up as the viewer either going "damn that was awesome, he was against the odd and still got out alive" or "A shame he died, but that was worth it for that awesome fight"

Neutral RR is NOT risk inducing in the slightest. While i agree that is the way empire wars operate currently, please PLEASE for the love of god leave it out of the videos. Not only will the viewer feedback be better even though they may or may not like empire wars but you will also show players who might want to join in on this how some of the really good fights turn out without the use alt accounts who are invincible to the enemy until you need them.

Yeah, you didn't watch the last fight in the movie right when they warped in a feck tons of ships into the station in Rens?

Then let me ask on what's so boring with the video compared to some videos from 0.0 space?

You see why this can get pretty intresting even when someone might find neutral logistics to be boring?

And you didn't watch the fight where Red Glaze was in his Abaddon (with 1 or 2 others on his side) letting 3-4 other BS'es shoot him at the gate while being repped by a logistic?

That wasn't risky at all?

The video doesn't entice people to watch any further than 2 mins and i'm not going to waste bandwidth to download something i'm just going to delete again, I assume that everyone just docked up because that's what you do.



Same question back at you, what makes this video any better than a solo pvp video?




Nope, if the logi's had any sort of backbone they wouldn't sit there pre-locking the guys they are going to rep and generally be invincible until they are needed.



Nope, because he was being repped by a logistic, a risky situation was if he engaged the battleships with no support on its way.


I also just noticed you are from orphanage which explains why you are so eager to defend this. But from my times being in both orphanage and rebirth I can easily say that not only do I get how empire wars operate, but i can also say that the way the majority of orphanage operate is by sitting outside jita, rens, hek, dodixie, amarr etc with arty canes and ****, waiting for someone to undock and smacking in local, so i can now understand why you find this video exciting.

3. Logistics are a big part of PVP. Just live with it. If you don't like logistics, then you can't like carrier bobbing either because that's logistics in a way that to.

fking

i dont recall anywhere in my post that i said i didnt like logi's.



"HEY LOOK GUYS, IM SO AWESOME I CAN BYPASS THE CHAT FILTER"


I'll level with you, your opinion is entirely fine by me and i have no right to try and tell you otherwise, but considering how angry you were getting at a video that isnt even yours made me happy, i like to be happy so i continued it after naomi to see how mad you'd get.

(Also the fact that everyone else is entitled to their opinion means you can't thrust your opinion down our throats and say its correct, leave that stuff to the religious nut jobs trying to get people to convert :P)

I'll download this vid just to see what this stupid flamefest is all about.

Furthermore: Empire pvp'ers are actually the loudmouthed minority, always has been and alwyas will be. You find better fights in FW against the caldari militia than in empire and thats saying something.

You can look up lots of oldschool PVP videos where you have the maker fighting in empire somewhere only to switch to lowsec or nullsec. Sure you can get good fights once every 6 months or so out of camping the Jita/Amarr pipe (killing 2 ******** privateer faction BS pilots with 10 battleships does not count).


At the end of the day good fights are found where people actually want to shoot you, not the other way around. This is pretty much evident since almost every single successfull pvp'er has some type of nullsec footage in his videos. Even if it's PL shooting up a battleship fleet without tackle in tengus set to some obscure dubstep sountrack. It's still a better fight and more entertaining to watch than people shooting stuff at jita 4-4 in some ragtag fleet without the slightest hint of synergy and strategy involved in the fleet setup.

Oh and NightmareX Please drop your arguments about neutral logis, it's a lame cowards tactic and thats the truth. If you or the guys you are fighting don't wanna risk either your brick megathron or your oneiros just becuase you are too incompetent to fly either properly much less fight a real enemy, please don't try to rationalise a neutral logi alt as anything other than empire pvpers being some overcompensating carebears with warp scramblers fitted.

Your enemies might suck and use neutral logis, but that means you should look for new targets. It does not give the tactic any type of legitimacy in a real scenario where they are not protected by police brutality ala concord.

NightmareX once more providing us all with great entertainment!

The rest of you guys are on the verge of being equally ******** for even trying to argue, as NM has already countless of times over proven that he is uncapable of comprehensing even the simplest and most blatently obvious and logical reasoning.

Neutral RR, really?

Uninstall.

Yeah, who doesn't use neutral logistics or logistics at all?

If we or Rebirth. haven't had any neutral logistics, then we would just use some extra logistics from the alliance anyways, so yeah......., what's the difference?

way worser

I think this invalidates any opinion you may have.

Because you are the worstest posters

Doesnt change the fact that you are a stupid ******.

Supercaps are cheating

Neutral rr is needed in empire wars, and requires skill and tactics to use

nightmare is still posting?

Awful vid, awful piloting. A very close second to the awfulness that was NightmareXYZwhatever's vid.

Actually, joint first. Problem solved!

I hear Gallente Federation is professionals at doing empire and low-sec PVP..........or wait a sec.

I gave this thread a quick browse, was kind of funny here and there, but now at the end, as I see your need to further extend your own humiliation, you turn it from entertaining to sad.
I guess its true, he who has the last laugh, thinks slowest.
Explaining the punchline of a joke just makes it not funny... Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but the thing dies in the process and the innards are discouraging to any but the pure scientific mind. You are quite the specimen Nightmare, because you're still laughing at the joke, while being the last to realize you are it.
So by all means... go on. Enjoy yourself.

I gave this thread a quick browse, was kind of funny here and there, but now at the end, as I see your need to further extend your own humiliation, you turn it from entertaining to sad.
I guess its true, he who has the last laugh, thinks slowest.
Explaining the punchline of a joke just makes it not funny... Humor can be dissected, as a frog can, but the thing dies in the process and the innards are discouraging to any but the pure scientific mind. You are quite the specimen Nightmare, because you're still laughing at the joke, while being the last to realize you are it.
So by all means... go on. Enjoy yourself.