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Z'krooh
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2015.10.18 07:29:50 -
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Are there any pirate groups or solo pirates that actually do all their activities in lowsec, including their possible alt characters? I have read a lot of these forums and noticed that pirates tend to have alts in highsec space doing mining, missioning or some industrial activities including trading.
But, isn't that embarrassing to act like a real badass one arm pirate and then log in your carebear alt after you have lost your shiny ship? |
Morgan Agrivar
Happy Endings Massage Parlor
101
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Posted - 2015.10.18 08:34:33 -
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The corporation I was in before (Peace.Keepers) are pirates who do faction warfare to make isk. I believe most of them have alts in lowsec too and only go to highsec to sell stuff.
Just something about me...
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Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
5423
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Posted - 2015.10.18 11:44:04 -
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There's not enough prey in lowsec to support a large number of pirates.
Have you considered basing out of Thera? It offers unique opportunities - including always being 1 wormhole connection from lowsec if you want to go there.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
705
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Posted - 2015.10.19 00:44:54 -
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Z'krooh wrote:Are there any pirate groups or solo pirates that actually do all their activities in lowsec, including their possible alt characters? I have read a lot of these forums and noticed that pirates tend to have alts in highsec space doing mining, missioning or some industrial activities including trading.
But, isn't that embarrassing to act like a real badass one arm pirate and then log in your carebear alt after you have lost your shiny ship?
It's just difficult to consistently make enough ISK in lowsec to finance PvP in expensive ships. Nullsec ratting or highsec incursions are more consistent.
Lowsec PvE can be pretty safe if done in a less populous area where you have friendly corpmates, but much of the income potential comes from DED sites, which are inconsistent in payouts and prevalence. Mordus/clone soldier/pirate faction spawns can be good also but once again they aren't consistent. I've made 600M ISK/hr belt ratting in lowsec (Orthrus BPC and Shadow serpentis tracking computer drops + clone tags) but that was a one time deal.
Currently I make ISK in lowsec when I can via PvE and FW plexing and then supplement that income with a highsec alt and the ocxasional PLEX sale.
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Spruillo
Spruillo Corp
39
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Posted - 2015.10.19 01:52:30 -
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Losec is filled with ppl that buy plex for money (guilty) and warp around belts 24/7 to gank noobs. The few actual residents who eek out a living doing pos reactions etc are in station or afk cloaky, or sitting on pos.
I recently moved to losec from wspace and starting to regret it. It's not that I can't handle the jackasses, it's just there are so many of them and they complicate doing anything constructive. Gate guns should be buffed to 1 shot said jackasses.
In my experience, a noob ina noobship or a guy in a venture is 1 out of 10 ppl ina system. Really.
If I went pirate I know exactly what to do, join code and hisec gank.
O7
PLAYIN SPACE TRUCKS VROOM VROOM
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
3422
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Posted - 2015.10.19 02:09:15 -
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Lowsec contains the following people:
- People who want to be pirates and read somewhere that pirates live in lowsec.
- Roaming gangs based in other types of space looking to do for-shiggles PVP.
- Faction warfare participants.
None of those offer good opportunities for piracy. In fact barely any of the self proclaimed "pirates" that live in lowsec can reasonably be said to actually do any kind of piracy at all. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
5424
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Posted - 2015.10.19 02:16:58 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Lowsec contains the following people:
- People who want to be pirates and read somewhere that pirates live in lowsec.
- Roaming gangs based in other types of space looking to do for-shiggles PVP.
- Faction warfare participants.
None of those offer good opportunities for piracy. In fact barely any of the self proclaimed "pirates" that live in lowsec can reasonably be said to actually do any kind of piracy at all.
I'd add in another three groups
- People who are taking shortcuts moving from highsec to highsec
- Day 1 newbs who got lost somewhere
- People doing PI
Two of those groups do provide some useful prey for pirates but only enough to sustain a small number gamewide.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
3893
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Posted - 2015.10.19 02:47:16 -
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Spruillo wrote:Losec is filled with ppl that buy plex for money (guilty) and warp around belts 24/7 to gank noobs. The few actual residents who eek out a living doing pos reactions etc are in station or afk cloaky, or sitting on pos.
I recently moved to losec from wspace and starting to regret it. It's not that I can't handle the jackasses, it's just there are so many of them and they complicate doing anything constructive. Gate guns should be buffed to 1 shot said jackasses.
In my experience, a noob ina noobship or a guy in a venture is 1 out of 10 ppl ina system. Really.
If I went pirate I know exactly what to do, join code and hisec gank.
O7
THIS WIL B DEALT WITH
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
3896
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Posted - 2015.10.19 03:46:17 -
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Z'krooh wrote:
But, isn't that embarrassing to act like a real badass one arm pirate and then log in your carebear alt after you have lost your shiny ship?
Low sec status does not mean "pirate". Even if it did, in order to profit from piracy, there would need to be an abundance of shipping, which there is not.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
5424
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Posted - 2015.10.19 04:43:46 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Z'krooh wrote:
But, isn't that embarrassing to act like a real badass one arm pirate and then log in your carebear alt after you have lost your shiny ship?
Low sec status does not mean "pirate". Even if it did, in order to profit from piracy, there would need to be an abundance of shipping, which there is not.
Well there is a lot of shipping, but it's done in (almost) uncatchable JFs.
The only reason to take a freighter through lowsec is if you have intel that makes clear that a lowsec route is safer than a specific highsec route. Generally this only happens when you have scouts, and a scouted freighter isn't often caught.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Ace Lapointe
Duty.
Mighty Wings.
1
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Posted - 2015.10.19 05:39:24 -
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I live in Low Sec and I am a pirate, as of yesterday I can no longer enter Jita without the Caldari Navy shooting me, so that makes me feel a little special, I make ISK off selling the parts from ship wreaks, and I make extra ISK on the side by doing some ratting if I see something nice, but that has happened what.. 2 times now? So yeah, all my ISK comes from loot and stuff, it is enough to sustain my Thorax and Enyo fleet, oh how I love them, and I make my own Nanite Paste from some BPC's I have, got at least 20000 runs total left, ammo comes in wreaks too. Only time I go to High Sec is if the Low Sec pathways are camped, then I bounce through High to another entry, or I just jump to another part of New Eden via the WH's.
I am loving it! But generally most people run Incursions or things like that on the side, DED Sites are a good, if unreliable source of ISK, as are Data and Relic Sites (I don't know which one is worse in Low then it is in High). There are plenty of ways to survive just in Low, but I will admit, especially for a newer character, you won't make much, I make enough to just cover my losses, but I play to be a pirate in Low Sec, which means being that, which means certain things become locked off to me, and I love that now it is a semi-stuggle to keep my ships repaired and loaded!
It's a pirates life for me!
Hope that answered your questions, fly safe! |
Trevor Dalech
We pooped on your lawn
Resonance.
178
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Posted - 2015.10.19 06:53:02 -
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I consider myself to be a pirate. I live in low sec, I make my ISK in low sec. If I were to venture into high sec I better GTFO quickly before the navy (or players) pops me. |
Switch Savage
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
197
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Posted - 2015.10.19 09:22:39 -
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Z'krooh wrote:Are there any pirate groups or solo pirates that actually do all their activities in lowsec, including their possible alt characters? I have read a lot of these forums and noticed that pirates tend to have alts in highsec space doing mining, missioning or some industrial activities including trading.
But, isn't that embarrassing to act like a real badass one arm pirate and then log in your carebear alt after you have lost your shiny ship?
Yes, we are a prime example. I cleared a bil yesterday between shiny drops and finishing peoples DEDs. One of our guys made about 1.5b off a single kill (Santo) yesterday alone.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
1703
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Posted - 2015.10.20 09:00:16 -
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Had some of my best fights in lowsec as a pirate, dead terrorists, that escalated quickly, snuffbox, shadow cartel, tuskers are all pirate alliances based in lowsec, pirates do faction warfare missions for lots of isk.
However i now live in Curse because the real pirates are the Angel Cartel 
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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