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Mdaemon
AirGuard
LowSechnaya Sholupen
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Posted - 2015.10.19 19:54:28 -
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The devblog published on October 15th told us about CCPGÇÖs plans regarding adding new items allowing SP transfer from one player to another to the New Eden Store. The official reason for this addition is improved accommodation of newbies and overall increase of player convenience. HowEVEr, we see a different addition to the game: the ability to convert real-world money into an absolute advantage in-game. CCP RiseGÇÖs article on the behalf of the Size Matters team claims that GÇ£this is just a more convenient alternative as compared to selling characters on the official siteGÇ¥, without seeing (or being willing to see) the drastic differences: the character market can only offer those entities that are already present in the game. There is simply no character possessing more than 280 millions of SP in the game (only Dr. Caymus has achiEVEd a number closely approaching this much), and there is no resource available that would provide the ability to exceed this number, other than a well-planned and slow character training.
On the other hand, the sale of SP on the market, given unlimited monetary resources, will grant the ability to produce an All5 character in days. Either way, All5 characters are a minor issue compared to this: consider the appearance of a totally new skill in EVE, and a character who masters it all the way to lEVEl 5 immediately. Or how about someone who, upon hearing of a buff of this or that ship or weapon, suddenly masters it at lEVEl 5? A person with a wad of cash will have gross advantage in matters of training time compared to all other players, and often this advantage will be critical. For instance, if during an update, a fleet format change occurs, then the players who purchase SP directly will be able to grab a huge piece of the galactic map long before EVErybody else manages to master the new counter-format fleet. Instantly-created perfect industrialists or traders, capship and supercapital pilots - this is what awaits us in the nearest future. This is the first, and most important reason why we consider it necessary to express our protest.
The second reason is also rooted in the past: remember Incarna. Back then, an internal CCP letter was leaked, titled GÇÿGreed is GoodGÇÖ, which detailed the plans of adding items, purchasable for Aurum, and giving advantages to players who purchase them. Protests followed, during which the monument in Jita was destroyed, after which CCP promised that items affecting game balance will not be available in the New Eden Store. Four years have passed, and what do we see today? An announcement of adding items that give a game-mechanical advantage here and now! And these items are fundamentally unlike EVEn the PLEX: the demand for them can be absolutely unlimited (the demand for PLEXes is largely dependent on the number of active accounts). This is clearly nothing other than a contempt demonstrated by CCP to its players, for they do not consider themselves bound by their promise. This is the second, less important reason why we consider it necessary to express our protest.
Finally, the third reason is that such items are a huge blow against the consistency of the game. Five years ago, the game was hard, dark and very peculiar, but it was consistent. It was a single world, with its own inner logic, EVEn though it was complicated. HowEVEr, big changes havenGÇÖt been quite consistent with it, as a compromise for satisfying some other higher considerations. As a result, the game started losing consistency, and began looking more and more like the other projects. The announcement of SP sold in exchange for Aurum is yet another nail in the coffin of common sense and logic of EVE Online. Someone might consider it unimportant, but nonetheless, this is the third reason why we consider it necessary to protest against this new addition.
October 17th video
On October 17th we spontaneously gathered in Amarr to express our protest by shooting the monument situated at the station at Amarr VIII (Oris) - Emperor Family Academy. Alas, the reports of the protest did not attract significant attention, and so the number of protesters did not exceed 30-40 people. For this reason, weGÇÖre urging EVEryone who disagrees with the new addition to join our next protest, which is scheduled for Saturday, October 24th, immediately after downtime. Come to Amarr, and shoot the monument, to express your opinion of the issue.
P.S.: The monument has 100% resistances, so there is no need to hop into a more powerful ship. Our goal isnGÇÖt vandalism, but protest, so pilot whatEVEr you want, mount LASER turrets (they donGÇÖt require reloading) with assorted lenses, or snowball and firework launchers, and come to Amarr on October 24th after downtime - itGÇÖs gonna be fun. |
Raffael Ramirez
Alcohol Fuelled
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:00:44 -
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CCP wanted some feedback , I think the sentiment was pretty clear against it.
If it shows up ingame I would consider joining you but if they just drop it after player consultation what is the point?
Anyway , good luck
Raff |
Emika Neosignal
Sequence.
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:01:55 -
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see you soon |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
2342
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:02:19 -
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Welp, it's not locked yet it seems... |
Cuprrr
CuprCorp
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:04:07 -
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And god bless the monument |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:07:20 -
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I'll be looking forward to Freelancer117 naked, in his poop-stained pants, urine trickling incontinently down his leg as he waves his cardboard sign of a tinfoil hat, screaming at a food dispenser in the crew mess area of the station.
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
2342
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:10:51 -
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Bumblefck wrote:I'll be looking forward to Freelancer117 naked, in his poop-stained pants, urine trickling incontinently down his leg as he waves his cardboard sign of a tinfoil hat, screaming at a food dispenser in the crew mess area of the station.
How can he be both naked and in a pair of poop stained pants with a tinfoil hat? |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
8807
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:22:02 -
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He's naked except for the pair of poop-stained pants...and the board he's holding has a picture of a tinfoil hat on it. He wouldn't dare wear one...far too powerful!
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
9347
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:22:55 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Bumblefck wrote:I'll be looking forward to Freelancer117 naked, in his poop-stained pants, urine trickling incontinently down his leg as he waves his cardboard sign of a tinfoil hat, screaming at a food dispenser in the crew mess area of the station. How can he be both naked and in a pair of poop stained pants with a tinfoil hat?
I'm not sure, but Bumblefck sure paints a graphic picture. The image he's painted in my poor overworked imagination is giving me the total heebie-jeebies.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
8807
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:28:27 -
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I apologise for any mental trauma I may have caused you this day, Mr Epeen
However, the truth is rarely all pleasure planets and pie
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
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DaReaper
Net 7
2635
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:35:41 -
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reported for redundancy...
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
8807
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:41:26 -
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DaReaper wrote:reported for redundancy...
Reported for ****-poor Zapata moustache
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
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Chris Kovach
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Squids
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:46:51 -
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Yawn.... |
Kej Lacitis
Gagrantua corp
Solar Citizens
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:51:59 -
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My Pulse-Beam Electronic-Warfare Cap-Stable Rokh is ready.
[Rokh, Amarr Riots]
Heat Sink I
Heat Sink I
Heat Sink I
Heat Sink I
Heat Sink I
Remote Sensor Dampener I
Target Painter I
Tracking Disruptor I
Remote Sensor Booster I
Warp Disruptor I
Cap Recharger I
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Gamma L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Xray L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Ultraviolet L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Standard L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Infrared L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Microwave L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Radio L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Beware, monument, I am coming! |
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
483
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Posted - 2015.10.19 20:55:23 -
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When will ccp ever learn?
BURN EVE!!
GREED IS GOOD |
Bobb Bobbington
The Cult of the Rare Pepes
79
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Posted - 2015.10.19 21:11:43 -
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****, another of these threads.
*sigh* |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
8810
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Posted - 2015.10.19 21:18:29 -
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Chris Kovach wrote:Yawn....
Hello, Mr. No-Likes
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
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Divine Entervention
Rational Chaos Inc.
Phoebe Freeport Republic
708
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Posted - 2015.10.19 21:41:41 -
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what's up with you and dudes wearing poop stained pants/underpants? |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
8811
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:06:29 -
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what's up with you being interested in me and dudes wearing poop stained pants?
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
9349
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:14:18 -
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Get a stall, you two. Preferably a poop stained one.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise
Upholders
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:26:15 -
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Imma shoot something in game while still paying CCP $15/mo. That'll show them! |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
9349
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:32:09 -
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Cidanel Afuran wrote:Imma shoot something in game while still paying CCP $15/mo. That'll show them! Don't be such a Debbie Downer. And if you are going to post in this thread,at least find some way to slip the words 'poop stained' into your post.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Valkin Mordirc
1559
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:35:30 -
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Cidanel Afuran wrote:Imma shoot something in game while still paying CCP $15/mo. That'll show them!
Because poop-stained plex funded by freelancer isn't a thing.
Or people wanting to keep a poop-stained experience in a game they love free of P2W mechanics and shortcuts.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Dabby Holder
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:39:52 -
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I read the development blog. The idea is make it possible, but at a huge cost (not in price of isk or money either). I believe balances it out. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:41:57 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote: P2W Poopstain to win?
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:57:50 -
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i would rather protest against the removal of IGB.  |
Tappits
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:59:36 -
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No one cares, |
Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
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Posted - 2015.10.19 23:39:16 -
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I'm tellin' yah. These people are desperate. They are so bored with each other in Amarr, snapping back and forth like old married couples, they'd do anything to get just anyone to come to their fabulous system and talk to them in Local. The people who say "I'll be there" in this thread are shills planted here to create the illusion of stampede.
I don't say this to dis this so-called uprising so much as to let everyone ELSE know you could be doing the unfortunate a great service if you'd run past Amarr every now-and-then and say, "Hello you guys!" in Local as you pass through. Just think of them as that lonely old hound nobody pets anymore. Once scratch behind the ear and you're a hero for life!
Fear of death follows from fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. -Mark Twain -
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Serene Repose
2564
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Posted - 2015.10.20 00:01:46 -
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What did I miss?
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to type on your keyboard and remove all doubt.
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Paranoid Loyd
7235
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Posted - 2015.10.20 00:04:21 -
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Serene Repose wrote:What did I miss?
As if you were ever gone.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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