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Ms Vanity
Caldari Hulk Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.29 14:37:00 -
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Are u no longer able to dock after opening one? Can u be locked and shot?
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.29 14:38:00 -
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Can't dock, can be shot.
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |

Ms Vanity
Caldari Hulk Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.29 14:40:00 -
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time to put the recon away then :/
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Harisdrop
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.29 15:00:00 -
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pre-revelations Cyno = I win button
Now you better have protection. New NPC Region |

Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.29 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Vanity time to put the recon away then :/
Hardly you numpty - Theyre even better now.
Before you could do what a recon ship was MADE TO DO with just a probe/kestrel. Now that 50% time reduction is useful
Geez, i swear some folks were at the back of the queue when the brains were handed out.
Soz if i sound rude and patronising but....well no but - thats the role of the ships.
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Turin
Caldari RONA Deepspace Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.29 20:53:00 -
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To bad recon ships are broke and wont allow you to fit a cov ops cloaking device on them AND a cyno gen.
STUUUUUPID.
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Mangold
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.12.29 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau
Originally by: Ms Vanity time to put the recon away then :/
Hardly you numpty - Theyre even better now.
Before you could do what a recon ship was MADE TO DO with just a probe/kestrel. Now that 50% time reduction is useful
Geez, i swear some folks were at the back of the queue when the brains were handed out.
Soz if i sound rude and patronising but....well no but - thats the role of the ships.
Of course. You should always use a 100M ship to do the job a 300k frig can do. Sure, the reduced time is useful if you're at a friendly pos but starting a cyno in hostile areas is just like painting a large bullseye on your ship.
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Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.12.29 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Vanity Are u no longer able to dock after opening one? Can u be locked and shot?
You can lock and shoot back now, as some charming stabber pilot found when he killed my cynoing execuror but had to warp out 3 times to do it due to my drones giving hima beating. -----
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.30 01:05:00 -
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Well tbh, anyone with any common sense would be able to use a force recon to a degree of skill....for example:
You're sitting in 0.0 in a falcon. My falcon is set up to give me 20k shields, 65% minimum resist. Passive recharge of 507 seconds. I open a cyno, and Bam - my carriers/dreads can jump thru. At which point, they can defend me, remote boost me and provide my survival for the next 5 minutes.
The recon ship is meant to be used in hostile situations for quick capital ship combat. Cyno up, capital ships fight, cyno generator can very shortly after escape/go elsewhere to open another.
Keep in mind also, that once the cyno is open, anyone can warp to it. If you wish to keep the cyno off the map and overview you need to be as fast as possible. For that, it requires the covert ops cycle time.
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Alice Magnum
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.12.30 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Alice Magnum on 30/12/2006 01:24:03
Quote: You're sitting in 0.0 in a falcon. My falcon is set up to give me 20k shields, 65% minimum resist. Passive recharge of 507 seconds. I open a cyno, and Bam - my carriers/dreads can jump thru. At which point, they can defend me, remote boost me and provide my survival for the next 5 minutes.
The recon ship is meant to be used in hostile situations for quick capital ship combat. Cyno up, capital ships fight, cyno generator can very shortly after escape/go elsewhere to open another.
And you die at the 1st gate camp trying to get to hostile space because you can't fit a cloak .... but maybe if you took of the cyno ....
Please think before you defend something that is still broken .... I agree its better for both sides now its not "Cyno field warp/dock" but the fact you have to fit a cloak get to hostile space find somewhere to dock remove the cloak and fit a cyno .............. sucks and is lazy CCP.
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.30 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: Waxau on 30/12/2006 01:27:14 Oh in no way am i saying theyre not broken. I totally agree that needs to be fixed and yes its a pain in the ass. But in truth, you can easily avoid gate camps in 0.0
My post was in reference to : Quote:
Of course. You should always use a 100M ship to do the job a 300k frig can do. Sure, the reduced time is useful if you're at a friendly pos but starting a cyno in hostile areas is just like painting a large bullseye on your ship.
In no way am i saying that Force recons are not broken - But their bonuses is to cynos - Thats what theyre for. Just because theyre broken, doesnt mean they're unable to perform their role. It just means as not as they SHOULD be able to.
Oh and you telling me to think before i post...how about you read what i say carefully rather than posting an insultive comment at your own lazy lack of intelligence.
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Phrixus Zephyr
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.12.30 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau Well tbh, anyone with any common sense would be able to use a force recon to a degree of skill....for example:
You're sitting in 0.0 in a falcon. My falcon is set up to give me 20k shields, 65% minimum resist. Passive recharge of 507 seconds. I open a cyno, and Bam - my carriers/dreads can jump thru. At which point, they can defend me, remote boost me and provide my survival for the next 5 minutes.
The recon ship is meant to be used in hostile situations for quick capital ship combat. Cyno up, capital ships fight, cyno generator can very shortly after escape/go elsewhere to open another.
Keep in mind also, that once the cyno is open, anyone can warp to it. If you wish to keep the cyno off the map and overview you need to be as fast as possible. For that, it requires the covert ops cycle time.
Not really, because hostile gang warps in. You're primary, you die. Byebye Falcon.
Originally by: Victor Ramirez using it to get the layout of a new system and a quick belt-check is about as practical as using Google Earth to see if your car is still in front of your house.
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Alice Magnum
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.12.30 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: Alice Magnum on 30/12/2006 01:37:18
Quote: In no way am i saying that Force recons are not broken - But their bonuses is to cynos - Thats what theyre for. Just because theyre broken, doesnt mean they're unable to perform their role
They perform their role worse than a T1 Frigate ..
A T1 frigate @ 500k isk going 4-5k m/s with a cyno fitted gives you a chance to "at least" get to the target site,
Falcon costing 100+ million isk going 900 m/s dies at the 1st hostile gate camp ..
Yep really does the role well.
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