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Cz Ire Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.30 05:40:00 - [1] The Amarr loyalist organization PIE Inc has declared war on NMTZ's close ally, Electus Matari. Despite -EM- reassurances that they can handle the situation, NMTZ council unanimously decided to assist our brothers against these darkened amarrian slavers. We will not tolerate Amarrian war declarations against Minmatar organizations inside of the Republic. It is with pride that we will fly with Electus Matari pilots, until such a time as the Amarrians retreat from Matari space. Our paperwork will be filed within 24 hours. You do not have any right or claims to our lands or people, Amarrians. Know that the Matari tribes stand united in that, and that we stand together stronger than ever. Namtz'aar K'in Fire seeks Fire -Cz Ire NMTZ head diplomat --- "They saw the long road, the harder road. The road that would ensure what we had gained in the vicious rebellion would not be squandered... our freedom." - Republic Fleet Admiral Kanth Filmir
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.30 10:25:00 - [2] Edited by: Hardin on 30/12/2006 10:27:50 Namtz'aar k'in are now considered KOS to the CVA for assisting Minmatar terrorists. If you enter the Deliverance Region (low-sec Domain and Amarrian Providence) you will be destroyed without further warning... ------------------------------ AMARR VICTOR
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.30 10:32:00 - [3] Once again we see the warlike Minmatars trying to use brute force to bend the peace-loving Amarrian people to their will. This will not happen. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Ikar Kaltin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.30 10:58:00 - [4] I sit here, and I see these war declarations against PIE for their defence of the empire...For pursuing act of aggression within the Amarr Empire and I have to ask why NMTZ are getting involved. Surely they do not endorse acts of agression against the Amarr Empire...and Pheonix Wing, I must wonder why they are getting involved in this war. Both these new entries say they are involved to support their allies Em. However what is this war? It is a war between Amarr loyalists defending the empire and Minmitar terrorists...So I would ask NMTZ and Pheonix wing before they commit themselves to this war, Are you terrorists against the Empire? If so you can consider these declarations as a war against all the Amarr loyalist organisations, if not then why are you getting involved? Alliances do not apply in this case....This is a war between Loyalists and Terrorists. Accept your titles as terrorists or dont get involved in another mans war. Ikar Kaltin
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.30 11:17:00 - [5] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 30/12/2006 11:17:29 We are not assisting terrorists. PIE Inc's declaration against Electus Matari is based on an incident where EM fought to get back to freedom kidnapped citizens of the Republic. EM are not terrorists, they are defenders of the Republic. NMTZ does, as always, condemn all unprovoked attacks on civilians and neutrals. We do not work with terrorists. It is, however, absolutely necessary we can defend the Republic against such declarations of war, and as everyone knows, for such defense it is often necessary to remove CONCORD interference. This is all there is to it from our side: simple making possible to patrol our space effectively. PIE Inc is adviced to stay inside Amarr borders. Elsebeth Rhiannon Namtz'aar K'in Junior Diplomat -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now.
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing	Posted - 2006.12.30 11:17:00 - [6] Originally by: Rodj Blake peace-loving Amarrian people You certainly have a talent for comedy Rodj. Laughs --- We are Recruiting!
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 11:38:00 - [7] Originally by: Rodj Blake Once again we see the warlike Minmatars trying to use brute force to bend the peace-loving Amarrian people to their will. You owe me a coffee AND a new holo-comp. www.eve-online.com/evetv
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.30 12:48:00 - [8] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 30/12/2006 11:42:20 NMTZ does, as always, condemn all unprovoked attacks on civilians and neutrals. We do not work with terrorists. PIE Inc's declaration against Electus Matari is based on an incident where EM fought to get back to freedom kidnapped citizens of the Republic. That is not terrorism, it is upholding our laws. You know as well as I do that there were no Republic citizens on those transports. Electus Matari were engaging in acts of piracy within Imperial borders, and our war declaration was enacted to make it harder for them to commit similar atrocities in the future. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Evanda Char Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2006.12.30 13:53:00 - [9] Cz, Elsebeth, I know I speak for all of Electus Matari when I say how abolutely blessed we are in our allies and friends. We can look forward, knowing you have our backs. Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Calisto Cody Minmatar The Black Swan Society	Posted - 2006.12.30 13:54:00 - [10] Any matari are brothers and sisters to the republic, even those of us he dislike the republic still will fight for the matari not yet free. so in a sense, they are republic citizens Originally by: Sergio Ling Originally by: Butter Dog but I'm professional enough to keep my mouth shut about what I know. i can't imagine that's true
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Luna Rossa Corporation The Guardian Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 15:10:00 - [11] The Amarr are an illegitemete terrorist organisation. They are not entitled to protection.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.30 15:35:00 - [12] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 30/12/2006 15:36:02 Originally by: Rodj Blake You know as well as I do that there were no Republic citizens on those transports. Electus Matari were engaging in acts of piracy within Imperial borders, and our war declaration was enacted to make it harder for them to commit similar atrocities in the future. I know no such thing, and I do know Electus Matari. "Piracy" and "atrocities" are not what they do. What you seek to do is to hinder legal humanitarian operations and upholding of Republic laws, and no amount of legal twisting of words or slander against Republic's defenders is going to change that. Their are limits to everyone's patience, Amarr. Testing those of the Matari any further might prove to be a mistake. Elsebeth Rhiannon Gradient, Asst. XO Namtz'aar K'in, Junior Diplomat -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now.
Ikar Kaltin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.30 15:38:00 - [13] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris The Amarr are an illegitemete terrorist organisation. They are not entitled to protection. This is interesting. Perhaps you have failed to notice that the Amarr actually have the most powerful EMPIRE in the galaxy...hardly a terrorist organisation. We do not bring terror. We bring light...we bring compassion and we bring care for the less fortunate, and we bring judgement upon our enemies.
Ikar Kaltin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.30 15:42:00 - [14] In fact, ok lets settle this. EM you say you attacked the amarr transport to rescue Republican citizens. PROVE this to us, you say you have intel, show us this intel. The amarr Do not have to prove that slaves on their slave transport were in fact slave. The issue is if you can prove they were not slaves. Prove it or accept your title as terrorists.
Doc Extropy Gallente Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.30 15:55:00 - [15] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris The Amarr are an illegitemete terrorist organisation. They are not entitled to protection. Agreed. CONCORD should retract from Amarr space and all other factions should stop diplomatic relations with this beasts. Everything else is aiding criminals. Originally by: Fortior Good things come to those who persevere.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.30 15:58:00 - [16] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 30/12/2006 16:08:53 This is no longer not about proof and counter-proof. Everyone who knows the players on the field knows that no amount of "did not, did too" is going to change anyone's stance as long as the declarations of war and KOS status stand. All this bickering about terminology and all these pseudolegal requirements of proof are nothing but a sleight of hand to take the eyes of public away from unpleasant truths. As for you for, CVA - so that you can make your sleight of hand a bit more believable next time - let me advice you that the usual time for peace-loving people to ask for explanations and proof is before you declare wars or set people to KOS, not after you have made up your mind. We will gladly review any evidence provided us towards the claim that Electus Matari as an organization is one of piracy and terrorism. We have condemned and will condemn mindless attacks on civilians and neutrals, even those conducted by Matari freedom fighters. You can go too far even for a good cause, but as is we have no reason to assume Electus Matari would have done that. This is the final comment from myself on these demands from the Amarr. You started the declarations of wars and KOS, if you now have changed your mind and want to settle it with words instead, you need to start by withdrawing the hostilities. Elsebeth Rhiannon Gradient, Asst. XO Namtz'aar K'in, Junior Diplomat -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now.
Lowanaera Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:08:00 - [17] I'm quite sure most of us would gladly welcome the removal of CONCORD interference within the Empire. We can manage our own affairs.
Doc Extropy Gallente Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:14:00 - [18] Originally by: Lowanaera I'm quite sure most of us would gladly welcome the removal of CONCORD interference within the Empire. We can manage our own affairs. In that case I see a lot of your ships go boom. Which would be nice. The cure for slavery is "pew pew pew". Originally by: Fortior Good things come to those who persevere.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:16:00 - [19] Originally by: Ikar Kaltin This is interesting. Perhaps you have failed to notice that the Amarr actually have the most powerful EMPIRE in the galaxy... * The Cosmopolite chuckles Certainly the Jove failed to notice that at the Battle of Vak'Atioth where 'judgement' was liberally served on the Amarrian fleet. As for 'terrorism': usually the distinction between those who are 'terrorists' and those who fight for 'order' is û like the distinction between 'pirates' and the tyrannies of the Outer Worlds û merely one of scale. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Recruitment
Micia Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.30 18:19:00 - [20] Fly fearlessly, Namtz'aar k'in. o> _______ Rodj Blake > We Amarrians do things with dignity Evanda Char > That's not what the last dessert trolley you visited said
Meklon Caldari Minmatar United Freedom Front Electus Matari	Posted - 2006.12.31 02:45:00 - [21] It is good to have more close friends on our wing Cz. Welcome to the fight Namtz'aar k'in. -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======-
Aegis Celestis Gallente Phoenix Wing	Posted - 2006.12.31 08:40:00 - [22] Originally by: Ikar Kaltin In fact, ok lets settle this. EM you say you attacked the amarr transport to rescue Republican citizens. PROVE this to us, you say you have intel, show us this intel. The amarr Do not have to prove that slaves on their slave transport were in fact slave. The issue is if you can prove they were not slaves. Prove it or accept your title as terrorists. Ii think the point is, find another race to enslave. labelled terrorist or not, you know these "terrorists" arent going to stop "terrorizing" these "peaceful amarran citizens".
Jhonen Senraedi Minmatar Decimus Corp Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.31 11:13:00 - [23] Bringing light to a people by enslaving them...ah..how rose tinted the Amarr view is. You may have the largest empire but all throughout the history of man have crumbled and decayed through decadance and corruption. Soon the common people of Amarr will see what a folly their masters have precipitated by enslaving our race! One man's Terrorist is another man's freedom fighter...and those labelled as terrorists are usually only thought of as such by the corrupt powers that try to oppress! These views are my own....although I am sure many in my alliance,Corporation and race share them..
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.31 14:40:00 - [24] Originally by: Aegis Celestis labelled terrorist or not, you know these "terrorists" arent going to stop "terrorizing" these "peaceful amarran citizens" And the paramilitaries will not stop killing the terrorists so long as they pose a threat to peaceful Amarrian citizens. Good to re-hash where everybody stands, though.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.31 22:47:00 - [25] Quote: PIE Inc's declaration against Electus Matari is based on an incident where EM fought to get back to freedom kidnapped citizens of the Republic. That is not terrorism, it is upholding our laws. It is absolutely necessary that we can defend the Republic against slavers who seek to destroy those who stand up for her. As everyone knows, for such defense it is often necessary to remove CONCORD interference. That is all there is to this war declaration: simple making possible to patrol our space effectively. More lies from terrorists..... how "normal" of them. The kidnapped workers who were born and bred in Amarr space were stolen illegally by the Electus Matari who "just happend" to be nearby when the renegade Minmatar made their attack. They claim they fired on the ships only in retaliation yet failed to answer why they were there. Instead they murdered the crew, murdered the Amarrian born and bred slaves, and stole other slaves belonging to the Amarr. Then they claim they were "republic citizens" when clearly this is not the case. The lies of the terrorists continue to amaze me and I often wonder "whats next". What will they claim as truth next? What lies will they attempt to use to subvert the holy work of Gods Empire? Time will tell yet the evil of these barbarians is already evident. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Meklon Caldari Minmatar United Freedom Front Electus Matari	Posted - 2006.12.31 23:00:00 - [26] Originally by: Archbishop More lies from terrorists..... how "normal" of them. The kidnapped workers who were born and bred in Amarr space were stolen illegally by the Electus Matari who "just happend" to be nearby when the renegade Minmatar made their attack. They claim they fired on the ships only in retaliation yet failed to answer why they were there. Instead they murdered the crew, murdered the Amarrian born and bred slaves, and stole other slaves belonging to the Amarr. Then they claim they were "republic citizens" when clearly this is not the case. The lies of the terrorists continue to amaze me and I often wonder "whats next". What will they claim as truth next? What lies will they attempt to use to subvert the holy work of Gods Empire? Time will tell yet the evil of these barbarians is already evident. Archbishop Archie Archie Archie, when will you stop living in the past. We all know that PIE were just waiting for an oppertunity to declare war against the Electus and you know that the IHR carried illegal slave shipments of abducted citizens. Though, I was suprised by your actions last night by releasing the poor Matari that you had contained within that torture chamber for god knows how long. Though he will be well treated for and is currently living in one of my rented quarters in the Molden Heath region while he recovers. The spiced wine was a nice compliment, it is just a shame that you decided to leave one of your god awful Pax Amarria's with him... I was suprised he hadn't killed himself. Now, if you follow your conscience and release the rest of the slaves within your hold Archie, then perhaps you could be on the road to true redemption.... -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======-
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.01 00:55:00 - [27] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 01/01/2007 00:55:26 Originally by: Meklon Archie Archie Archie, when will you stop living in the past. We all know that PIE were just waiting for an oppertunity to declare war against the Electus and you know that the IHR carried illegal slave shipments of abducted citizens. Firstly, you have yet to supply us with the documentation to prove that the slaves had previously been Republic citizens. Secondly, we do not need excuses to declare war upon the supporters of Mataro-fascism. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?

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