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all npc production of bs should be stopped, user made only making them either alot harder to find or much more expensive seeing as it will be player controlled prices, if a few got together and set a min price for thereships, they could rake it in and make bs's more valuble

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Of course bookmarks, instajumps/docks, dual MWDs need to be fixed, but TOGETHER with this build speed thingy.

6 hours for a battleship is simply not enough.

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So what's the problem with so many people in battleships? What's the difference between 1000 people flying a BS vs 1000 flying a frigate? I think perhaps some players (who are obviously already flying BS's) want to remain king of the hill by preventing others from flying a like class vessel. If you want to thin out the herd, I'd suggest dropping the insurance coverage to only cover frigate and industrial class ships. Cruisers and BS's could be considered machines of war and therefore undesirable for coverage by insurance companies.

Limiting the progression of a player I don't think is the real issue in this game, I feel the lack of loss for a character in this game is what is missing. You've got clones, so no loss of training; insurance prevents the total loss of your ship, though your items are usually lost. Items in storage are protected as they are untouchable by anyone.

Maybe some real loss in the game? Podkill someone, and get to pick one of any item that person owns? Basically, why second guess if you want to mix it up in battle if 5 minutes after you've been blasted you are back up and running as if nothing happened?

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You are incorrect sir, one of my corp mates took out a pirate camping BS with but a cruiser. BS's are big ships, but lack of skills and experience will not prevent the loss of such a massive ship.

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Errrm ruffles, never heard of having stuff in stock? If you specialise in building things then you can have a stock of them available to sell. If you go buy a car you don't expect that the car still needs to be built in the factory, you expect to buy one that is in stock, just like anything else.

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You never sold something you haven't built yet? Interesting... Yes we keep stock, but we also are fans of JIT. Its a nice thing to not tie up all your assets ;) Very flexible cashflow.

You honestly say that for 1-10 minutes of great fighting, you may well be happy to wait 6 days to play again? I feel somewhat lacking in contentment :) Personally, I would want to be out there again as soon as possible.

I do tend to agree more with our friend Lucas. He has a very much more valid point. Almost no one will insure something like a warship, whilst industrials and frigates, perhaps some cruisers used for hauling duties, but why insure a battleship? Deliberatley pay out heaps of cash for something that big being destroyed when it was built to go and destroy other things.

That may very well be more of an active solution then many have previously thought. If you couldn't insure them, you may be tempted to use them more tactically and not all the time...

Very nice thought :D

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Edited by: Chade Malloy on 08/12/2003 09:42:16

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Sitting in empire space should be low risk and low reward.

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Hm, you can¦t say that in general...what about trading? out in 0.0 there are just not enough stations with trade goods, so traders (have to) stay in empire...
Maybe more traders in slow indies would tramp out to 0.0 if there would be more promising trades to do, rare goods, black market etc... and this of course would lead to increased pirate presence, and THIS on the other hand causes more need of escort ships, which will end in more battles and satisfy more people !

About the insurance for BS, i totally agree, take it OFF, its simply insane and unrealistic, same as if you could insure a warhead from exploding.

just my 0.02 ISK

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