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Wildwa Shadow Command	Posted - 2007.01.01 19:41:00 - [1] I'm sure this has been covered, but the lack of a search on these forums sorta makes it hard to find. Also i could not find anything in the stickies about this. Looking to set up a POS in Empire. What are the main differences between Medium and Large? Are there any links to where i can find info about the diff stations? Also, does anyone sell package deals? Thx!
Ocularis Refuge of the Damned	Posted - 2007.01.01 20:04:00 - [2] here you go: Linkage
Harris	Posted - 2007.01.01 22:13:00 - [3] Look up a bit, now look right a bit. At the top of the list of pictures advertising stuff on the right there is a search feature. It isn't exclusively to the forums but it does get results. Main differences are basically fitting ability (large can fit more stuff on to it) and cost to run (large costs more to run). And of course, the shields and physical space inside the shields vary accordingly as well.
Yukiko Kanezaki	Posted - 2007.01.01 22:52:00 - [4] Originally by: Harris And of course, the shields and physical space inside the shields vary accordingly as well. They do? Is that important? Or just asthetics?
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2007.01.02 05:25:00 - [5] Originally by: Yukiko Kanezaki Originally by: Harris And of course, the shields and physical space inside the shields vary accordingly as well. They do? Is that important? Or just asthetics? Short answer: Yes Long answer: The POS bubble is a sphere, with a radius of 15km for a small tower, 21.215km for a medium, and 30km on a large. Now if you're any good with geometry, you'll realize just how big of an impact a small change in radius has on total volume(the space inside of the bubble), the large tower is 8 times more spacious than the small, and ~3 times more spacious than the medium; that's a lot of space. As for the level of importance, it varies; a small tower is in practice frighteningly small, a couple of people trying to go for the same resource can easily crowd each other out. However a medium and a large are much easier to deal with; the large is the most spacious, but most people can live in a medium just fine. It depends on how much you think you'll be using the tower. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.01.03 06:56:00 - [6] Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 03/01/2007 06:57:15 The most important diferences are fuel consuption and the CPU and PWR capacities. For example: Gallente Medium PWR 1875000 MW CPU 3375 tf Gallente Big PWR 3750000 MW CPU 6750 tf So the big one doubles the medium in CPU and PWR (same applies to fuel). If this POS is intended for research, I recomend the medium tower. It changes stats from race to race, but a gallente med. can handle 13 mobile labs. That's 39 ME slots, 39 PE slots, and 13 copy slots (also 39 invention slots, if you dare). That's more than enough, IMO.
ForceM POS Builder Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.03 09:39:00 - [7] Originally by: Shameless Avenger Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 03/01/2007 06:57:15 If this POS is intended for research, I recomend the medium tower. It changes stats from race to race, but a gallente med. can handle 13 mobile labs. That's 39 ME slots, 39 PE slots, and 13 copy slots (also 39 invention slots, if you dare). That's more than enough, IMO. Almost correct .. invention slots are 5 each .. So thats a total of invention 75 slots (talking about a dare :)
Yukiko Kanezaki	Posted - 2007.01.03 23:24:00 - [8] Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: Yukiko Kanezaki Originally by: Harris And of course, the shields and physical space inside the shields vary accordingly as well. They do? Is that important? Or just asthetics? Short answer: Yes Long answer: The POS bubble is a sphere, with a radius of 15km for a small tower, 21.215km for a medium, and 30km on a large. Now if you're any good with geometry, you'll realize just how big of an impact a small change in radius has on total volume(the space inside of the bubble), the large tower is 8 times more spacious than the small, and ~3 times more spacious than the medium; that's a lot of space. As for the level of importance, it varies; a small tower is in practice frighteningly small, a couple of people trying to go for the same resource can easily crowd each other out. However a medium and a large are much easier to deal with; the large is the most spacious, but most people can live in a medium just fine. It depends on how much you think you'll be using the tower. Thank for that detailed explination! When I was looking at POS stats, I must have misread something, or not bothered to look very closely, because I was under the impression they all had the same shield radius. Diffently going with a med tower now.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.01.04 00:35:00 - [9] Originally by: ForceM Almost correct .. Thanks ForceM... You are correct, my stats were mistaken /me needs to learn not to post while drinking Rum...:D
Sokratesz Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.01.04 01:46:00 - [10] Edited by: Sokratesz on 04/01/2007 01:48:20 A small POS without stront can be killed in 1hr by 20 battleships, regardless of defences. A medium one with proper defences will hold out 3 - 4 hrs against a force like that and a large one will probably hold. The trick is to fit it right and dont forget the ewar (web/scram/jam) arrays. Also pick your amount of strontium wisely...24hrs is useless since a force will always attack at the time of day when most of its members are on, so your amount of strong should be enough for 12 - 18hrs + (n*24) where n is the amount of additional days you want it to last. Basilisk Fitting Link
ForceM Gallente POS Builder Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.05 09:36:00 - [11] Originally by: ForceM Edited by: ForceM on 03/01/2007 13:05:27 Originally by: Shameless Avenger Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 03/01/2007 06:57:15 If this POS is intended for research, I recomend the medium tower. It changes stats from race to race, but a gallente med. can handle 13 mobile labs. That's 39 ME slots, 39 PE slots, and 13 copy slots (also 39 invention slots, if you dare). That's more than enough, IMO. To correct myself .. i was talking about Gallente Towers. Caldari towers kan hold more labs cause they have a higher CPU output. Other racial towers have a lower output then gallente even and can hold less. Almost correct .. invention slots are 5 each .. Also .. a Medium can only hold 6. a LARGE can hold 13 So for a large thats a total of invention 75 slots (talking about a dare :) Me being a pessimist is a win-win situation: Either i am right .. or its even better then i said.
RC Denton	Posted - 2007.01.05 18:15:00 - [12] If this is your first time working with a POS I would start with a small for several reasons: Smalls cost the least amount of money to set up Smalls use a lot less fuel (40mil/month) than meds or larges(80/160mi/month) You can mount up to three labs on a small so unless you have very high lab ops and adv lab ops, or lots of people to use the slots in your corp it's a waste to get more
ForceM Gallente POS Builder Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.05 21:30:00 - [13] Originally by: RC Denton If this is your first time working with a POS I would start with a small for several reasons: Smalls cost the least amount of money to set up Smalls use a lot less fuel (40mil/month) than meds or larges(80/160mi/month) You can mount up to three labs on a small so unless you have very high lab ops and adv lab ops, or lots of people to use the slots in your corp it's a waste to get more Its more like 65 mill for medium .. And altho its a bit more expensive to start (100 mill more for the medium tower) .. it will pay out in the long run. And you do not need high lab skills or alot of ppl. 1 person can easily operate 1 complete lab on its own (not counting the invention slots) Someone that has a corp with the capabilities of building and supporting a POS has at least 6 to 10 ppl in it. Me being a pessimist is a win-win situation: Either i am right .. or its even better then i said.

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