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Nessto Lombardi Great White North Productions Alternate Allegiance 3	Posted - 2015.11.02 16:13:17 - [1] - Quote Some times I would like to just auto destruct my ship when I am caught moving stuff I shouldn't be where I shouldn't be. I don't really know how this would show up on kill mail but I would like to destroy everything VS having some of my stuff get looted. 2 Minutes is far to long.
embrel BamBam Inc. 256	Posted - 2015.11.02 16:16:15 - [2] - Quote so, you happened ro find the reason why it takes 2 min.?
Paranoid Loyd 7354	Posted - 2015.11.02 16:20:09 - [3] - Quote Why should you be able to hide your incompetence? "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2375	Posted - 2015.11.02 16:32:43 - [4] - Quote How about a "scorched earth" low slot module that reduce your tank and prevent drops? A tank penalty akin to expanders because you pack the cargo hold with active explosive that will detonate on a hull breach?
Dirk Magnum KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 505	Posted - 2015.11.02 16:34:01 - [5] - Quote Killmails are still generated if you SD, as long as someone did some damage to you. You cannot run from your mistakes. You cannot hide from the meta game. We will all know what you have been doing in space. Forever. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Gadolf Agalder Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2015.11.02 16:43:48 - [6] - Quote One solution is to fly with an escort with an extra freighter to scoop the disaster area. I mean, even the Titanic could have used something like that, and they could afford it too!!!
BirdStrike State War Academy Caldari State 103	Posted - 2015.11.02 16:54:52 - [7] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: How about a "scorched earth" low slot module that reduce your tank and prevent drops? A tank penalty akin to expanders because you pack the cargo hold with active explosive that will detonate on a hull breach? I still want a jihad jeep option of rigging your ship with enough C4 to take out everything in radius. Carebears think code & miniluv are bad news now, imagine the tears proper suicide bombers would generate.
Netan MalDoran Last Garrison 127	Posted - 2015.11.02 17:14:14 - [8] - Quote BirdStrike wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: How about a "scorched earth" low slot module that reduce your tank and prevent drops? A tank penalty akin to expanders because you pack the cargo hold with active explosive that will detonate on a hull breach? I still want a jihad jeep option of rigging your ship with enough C4 to take out everything in radius. Carebears think code & miniluv are bad news now, imagine the tears proper suicide bombers would generate. Just allow bombs in high sec, let the tears flow! X'D "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2375	Posted - 2015.11.02 17:47:52 - [9] - Quote Netan MalDoran wrote: BirdStrike wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: How about a "scorched earth" low slot module that reduce your tank and prevent drops? A tank penalty akin to expanders because you pack the cargo hold with active explosive that will detonate on a hull breach? I still want a jihad jeep option of rigging your ship with enough C4 to take out everything in radius. Carebears think code & miniluv are bad news now, imagine the tears proper suicide bombers would generate. Just allow bombs in high sec, let the tears flow! X'D You could always use smartbombs.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3524	Posted - 2015.11.02 18:43:59 - [10] - Quote You can just jettison your stuff and shoot the can. Also denying other players a reward for catching you isn't good gameplay.

Jenshae Chiroptera 2366	Posted - 2015.11.02 18:52:08 - [11] - Quote I would like industrials to have a tank. Many of them are paper bags with nothing but a cargo space. CCP serving up victims on a silver plate with apples in their mouths. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Netan MalDoran Last Garrison 127	Posted - 2015.11.02 18:57:16 - [12] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Netan MalDoran wrote: BirdStrike wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: How about a "scorched earth" low slot module that reduce your tank and prevent drops? A tank penalty akin to expanders because you pack the cargo hold with active explosive that will detonate on a hull breach? I still want a jihad jeep option of rigging your ship with enough C4 to take out everything in radius. Carebears think code & miniluv are bad news now, imagine the tears proper suicide bombers would generate. Just allow bombs in high sec, let the tears flow! X'D You could always use smartbombs. True, but not nearly as powerful as bombs. They would just warp away. "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Netan MalDoran Last Garrison 127	Posted - 2015.11.02 18:58:28 - [13] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: I would like industrials to have a tank. Many of them are paper bags with nothing but a cargo space. CCP serving up victims on a silver plate with apples in their mouths. No, they don't need any more tank, your 'tank' is a 0 SP scout alt in a pod, its not too hard. Believe me, moving a Tayra through Syndicate pipes is a Btch. "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!*
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 9517	Posted - 2015.11.02 18:58:54 - [14] - Quote OP is a perfect example of why KBs will always create more risk aversion than high sec ever will. Want more fights? Get rid of KBs. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Avvy Republic University Minmatar Republic 194	Posted - 2015.11.02 19:03:06 - [15] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: OP is a perfect example of why KBs will always create more risk aversion than high sec ever will. Want more fights? Get rid of KBs. Mr Epeen KBs are worse for giving players a reason to go after easy kills.
Paranoid Loyd 7362	Posted - 2015.11.02 21:27:41 - [16] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: I would like industrials to have a tank. Many of them are paper bags with nothing but a cargo space. CCP serving up victims on a silver plate with apples in their mouths. The majority of the haulers can fit a good tank. Even the 4 that can be classified as paper bags can be fit to be 99% immune to gankers. They are very well balanced right now assuming you are not greedy and/or ignorant. If you are either, you should be punished. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Gadolf Agalder Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2015.11.02 21:35:46 - [17] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: You can just jettison your stuff and shoot the can. Also denying other players a reward for catching you isn't good gameplay. This is the best method I heard of and read about in my 3 years + of gameplay. And yes, that also includes the 4 more years before, back in 2008 and 2009 when I only played 1 piece of EVE Online music on my MSN site.
Gadolf Agalder Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 11	Posted - 2015.11.02 21:37:53 - [18] - Quote Netan MalDoran wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: I would like industrials to have a tank. Many of them are paper bags with nothing but a cargo space. CCP serving up victims on a silver plate with apples in their mouths. No, they don't need any more tank, your 'tank' is a 0 SP scout alt in a pod, its not too hard. Believe me, moving a Tayra through Syndicate pipes is a B*tch. I didn't think there was any way to move there.
David Therman University of Caille Gallente Federation 95	Posted - 2015.11.02 21:38:55 - [19] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: The majority of the haulers can fit a good tank. Even the 4 that can be classified as paper bags can be fit to be 99% immune to gankers. They are very well balanced right now assuming you are not greedy and/or ignorant. If you are either, you s¦¦h¦¦o¦¦u¦¦l¦¦d will be punished by yours truly. FTFY
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3532	Posted - 2015.11.02 21:47:44 - [20] - Quote I built a t1 hauler for my alt the other day and just threw scrap from my hanger on to it as a tank. With no rigs it had 20k EHP in the fitting window. PLZ CCP GIF MOR TANK

Jenshae Chiroptera 2366	Posted - 2015.11.02 22:56:58 - [21] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: I would like industrials to have a tank. Many of them are paper bags with nothing but a cargo space. CCP serving up victims on a silver plate with apples in their mouths. The majority of the haulers can fit a good tank. Even the 4 that can be classified as paper bags can be fit to be 99% immune to gankers. They are very well balanced right now assuming you are not greedy and/or ignorant. If you are either, you should be punished. They don't have enough tank for an escort mission. It is like mining - dock or die. Evade / reach the gate or die. No stand and fight options. Just a kill or not killed situation. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Paranoid Loyd 7364	Posted - 2015.11.02 23:10:48 - [22] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: They don't have enough tank for an escort mission. This doesn't make any sense. Please elaborate. Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: It is like mining - dock or die. No, not really. There is no point in hauling where you are as vulnerable as mining in an asteroid belt. You really have to be incompetent to be this vulnerable in a hauler. Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Evade / reach the gate or die. No stand and fight options. Just a kill or not killed situation. Why would it be any other way for a hauling ship? "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1608	Posted - 2015.11.03 03:25:10 - [23] - Quote Whatevayamean haulers cannot get a good tank ???
Otso Bakarti Filial Pariahs 433	Posted - 2015.11.03 07:07:50 - [24] - Quote Risk Averse - someone with no death wish. Beware those who walk in front of moving buses claiming you're unduly cowardly if you don't. They call you names, "Risk Averse" to divert attention from themselves - who can be described by another name - witless. Fear of death follows from fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. -Mark Twain -
Netan MalDoran Last Garrison 127	Posted - 2015.11.03 07:31:03 - [25] - Quote Otso Bakarti wrote: Risk Averse - someone with no death wish. Beware those who walk in front of moving buses claiming you're unduly cowardly if you don't. They call you names, "Risk Averse" to divert attention from themselves - who can be described by another name - witless. I'm just sitting here reading your post.....then reading your signature......then reading your post again.... "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
Khan Wrenth Ore Oppression Prevention and Salvation 262	Posted - 2015.11.03 08:08:22 - [26] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: I would like industrials to have a tank. Many of them are paper bags with nothing but a cargo space. CCP serving up victims on a silver plate with apples in their mouths. My transport ship has ridiculous tank and enough slots for immense versatility in fitting. Sure it's not a T1 industrial, but T1 is basic bare-bones ships for a reason. If you want a great ship, go transport. Just by skilling it up, a transport ship has great tank. Then you put modules on, and train up thermodynamics to take advantage of the role bonus to overheating, and you have a crown jewel of a cargo ship. And you have fitting room for MWD, cloak, and whatever else your imagination brings you. Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
David Therman University of Caille Gallente Federation 98	Posted - 2015.11.03 12:17:36 - [27] - Quote As Lloyd already alluded to, half the "tank" has nothing to do with fitting your ship, it's the lump of grey matter between our ears, specifically how you use said lump. One loss stands out vividly in my mind (among other items); 6 odd PLEX, a vigilant and a loki all thrown into a fully expanded mammoth (rigs 'n all) with 1 adaptive field serving as the "tank". You just can't account for stupid.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3551	Posted - 2015.11.03 13:08:52 - [28] - Quote If the Occator had a drone damage bonus it would be more powerful than a HAC. Seriously, industrial ships these days are nothing to **** with if they're actually fit properly. It's completely disingenuous to argue that they aren't survivable.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2369	Posted - 2015.11.03 17:54:57 - [29] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: If the Occator had a drone damage bonus it would be more powerful than a HAC. Seriously, industrial ships these days are nothing to **** with if they're actually fit properly. It's completely disingenuous to argue that they aren't survivable. Logi decloak + lock time before sebo gankers blow it away (The 1 billion ISK fit does not count) As to competance, have a look at how many industrials I have lost in how ever many years I have been here. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.


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