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Vaster
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.01.02 09:11:00 -
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I'm sure this has been posted a million times before, but I can't seem to find any info.
As most are aware (or so I recently descovered), Fitting a cynosural generator on your recon ship causes the cloaking device to be rendered useless. Is this intentional? If so, could this piece of info be placed in the cynogens description, for people like me who do not often work with capital ships? If it is not intentional (that is, a bug), has CCP addressed this? If they have, could you tell me whatthere response was?
I have heard conflicting stories since I descovered this mod-conflict on my new rapier.
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Cheese999
Minmatar Spitefully Targeting Foolishly Underskilled The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.01.02 09:30:00 -
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Its a well known database bug. Its caused my not being able to use two cloaks on a single ship, and cynos being classed as cloaks, and the whole thing is a mess.
File a bug report. You can never have to many bug reports. -----
There is no Spoon Minmatar: Bending over for Tux since RmR
Originally by: Outa Rileau bring a nosdomi to a fleet, and your fc will most likely call you primary.
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BurnHard
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Posted - 2007.01.02 11:10:00 -
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The whole Cyno thing is a mess. The best way to use them is to use throw-away alts in crap ships because unless you are setting up the cyno inside a POS, it's too dangerous (rather, costly) to risk a pimped up recon or covert ops to do it.
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Jan Javaar
Minmatar FireStar Inc Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.02 12:26:00 -
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It has been that way since recons were introduced, CCP is aware that the problem exists.
But it seems to be a hard problem to tackle, apparently cloaks and cynoŠs are in the same class and so cannot work when they are both fitted.
And CCP canŠt get them out of that class, seems to be some deep level coding is required.
Was answered a few months ago, canŠt find the link just now 
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Cyberus
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Posted - 2007.01.02 17:42:00 -
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i beleave there is simple solution for that. Ccp need give us aportunity to deactivate cyno mod maunaly so we can move on with the ship after cap ship arrive. Still timer will be running at the ships and cant be reacivated at next ( depence on skill/ship ) time. keeping ships for lets say 10 minets near cyno is very stupid idea.
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Davlin Lotze
Raging Destruction
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Posted - 2007.01.02 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cyberus i beleave there is simple solution for that. Ccp need give us aportunity to deactivate cyno mod maunaly so we can move on with the ship after cap ship arrive. Still timer will be running at the ships and cant be reacivated at next ( depence on skill/ship ) time. keeping ships for lets say 10 minets near cyno is very stupid idea.
OR, just go back and throw us the lil bone that allowed some chicanery with cyno hores and session changes :D
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Shi Mun
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2007.01.02 18:27:00 -
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Can some1 just enlighten me what thw advantage is of fitting 2 cloaking devices to a ship? --------------------------- HAHA! your jammers suck now! Oh wait whats happening to my scorpion... |

Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.01.02 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Kaaii on 02/01/2007 18:43:36
Originally by: Shi Mun Can some1 just enlighten me what thw advantage is of fitting 2 cloaking devices to a ship?
None for cloaking, but...
They are very big, vol wise...
I put multi-cloaks on ships im moving to save space in cargo hold. Someone scans my empty cormrant, "oh, kaaii has nothing in hold, not worth it..." Great for moving 8 cloaks with nothing showing..Take um off when i get to where im going...
Trading 101
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big white
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Posted - 2007.01.03 12:35:00 -
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u were able to dock after the ship had jumped through, but it appears CCP have changed this and also they can now lock and kill you!!
What is the point of having cap ships if you cannot do anything with them as they can be jumped on ASAP.
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Tuxford

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Posted - 2007.01.03 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shi Mun Can some1 just enlighten me what thw advantage is of fitting 2 cloaking devices to a ship?
Holy instant recloak batman
I have a blog coming up, which addresses the cyno/cloak bug. _______________ |
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Verus Potestas
Caldari The I-Win Button
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Posted - 2007.01.03 13:57:00 -
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How soon is "coming up"? 
--- In third-party forums we trust
Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
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Siggi Syra
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Posted - 2007.01.03 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Siggi Syra on 03/01/2007 14:07:42 damn alt
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.03 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Shi Mun Can some1 just enlighten me what thw advantage is of fitting 2 cloaking devices to a ship?
Holy instant recloak batman
Ebil ebil ebil! 
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2007.01.03 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Wizzkidy on 03/01/2007 14:19:55
Originally by: Tuxford I have a blog coming up, which addresses the cyno/cloak bug.
Blog us! Blog us NOW  
Also I want a blog on ALL the ammar whines i.e how you are going to sort the race out! EDIT - of course I aint asking for much 
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Zakgram
Apocalyptic Raiders Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Zakgram on 03/01/2007 14:20:03
Originally by: Tuxford
Holy instant recloak batman
You mean, as opposed to that near instant recloak that recons and bombers currently enjoy? Also - what would be so bad? A force recon using up 2 high slots to be able to uncloak and recloak 4 seconds faster than normal... whoooooo.
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Jan Javaar
Minmatar FireStar Inc Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.03 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jan Javaar on 03/01/2007 14:36:52
Originally by: Tuxford
I have a blog coming up, which addresses the cyno/cloak bug.
Will that blog state when the bug will be squashed?
Pretty plz, sugar on top
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Tuxford

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Posted - 2007.01.03 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Wizzkidy Edited by: Wizzkidy on 03/01/2007 14:19:55
Originally by: Tuxford I have a blog coming up, which addresses the cyno/cloak bug.
Blog us! Blog us NOW  
Also I want a blog on ALL the ammar whines i.e how you are going to sort the race out! EDIT - of course I aint asking for much 
I've made several blogs about that actually but I keep not posting them because I'm not happy with them.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2007.01.03 15:15:00 -
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Dont be so critical to yourself Tux,.. . let us be  If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!! |

Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.03 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Wizzkidy Edited by: Wizzkidy on 03/01/2007 14:19:55
Originally by: Tuxford I have a blog coming up, which addresses the cyno/cloak bug.
Blog us! Blog us NOW  
Also I want a blog on ALL the ammar whines i.e how you are going to sort the race out! EDIT - of course I aint asking for much 
I've made several blogs about that actually but I keep not posting them because I'm not happy with them.
Tux don't worry bro, you can at least guarantee that you'll be more happy with them than the hordes of whining lemmings who will descend once you've posted...
BLOG US NOW PLZ. ....
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2007.01.03 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Wizzkidy Edited by: Wizzkidy on 03/01/2007 14:19:55
Originally by: Tuxford I have a blog coming up, which addresses the cyno/cloak bug.
Blog us! Blog us NOW  
Also I want a blog on ALL the ammar whines i.e how you are going to sort the race out! EDIT - of course I aint asking for much 
I've made several blogs about that actually but I keep not posting them because I'm not happy with them.
Fair enough, I suppose we will let you be happy with the blog result before publishing it 
At least we know its on way. Thanks for the reply.
pssst ... i want to be ebil 
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Ficti0n
FireTech Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 16:48:00 -
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Tux I know there are a lot of people on these forums that will bash you for whatever you do.
I hope this hasnt discouraged you in what you do.
The best way to develop this game i think would be to strive confidently while listening to the advice of others. Which you seem to be doing  
Hmm not sure if I got my message across, ill am trying to say is don't be discouraged by certain people if you have a blog ready post it 
Regards, ficti0n
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Tisanta
Amarr Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom
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Posted - 2007.01.03 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Shi Mun Can some1 just enlighten me what thw advantage is of fitting 2 cloaking devices to a ship?
Holy instant recloak batman
I have a blog coming up, which addresses the cyno/cloak bug.
you could just use a ****ty cheap ship and it wont matter if u die ? ---

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Buster Gonads
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Posted - 2007.01.03 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ficti0n Tux I know there are a lot of people on these forums that will bash you for whatever you do.
I hope this hasnt discouraged you in what you do.
The best way to develop this game i think would be to strive confidently while listening to the advice of others. Which you seem to be doing  
Hmm not sure if I got my message across, ill am trying to say is don't be discouraged by certain people if you have a blog ready post it 
Regards, ficti0n
Kissing arse on the forums is one of the primary causes of viewer nausea/vommitting. please refrain from doing this and smack the devs like you would anybody else.

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Eskalin
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.03 17:19:00 -
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and alt posting is the #1 cause of ghayness
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Andargor theWise
Disbelievers of Fate The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.01.07 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: Andargor theWise on 07/01/2007 06:48:32
Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Shi Mun Can some1 just enlighten me what thw advantage is of fitting 2 cloaking devices to a ship?
Holy instant recloak batman
I have a blog coming up, which addresses the cyno/cloak bug.
Yes, fix the cyno/cloak bug so that we can go back to whining about how recons are useless in that role. 
Seriously, can't the cyno field be created by a launchable probe? What's with the immobile expensive target fetish? 
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j0sephine
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.07 07:01:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 07/01/2007 06:58:10
"Holy instant recloak batman"
Can't this be solved with reusing aggression timer mechanics for simply flagging the ship with "you decloaked less than X seconds ago, can't do it again yet" ... for whatever delay you'd want to impose on the cloakers? It'd be good to have this sort of ability cooldown mechanics --as opposed to module cooldown-- anyway, to avoid more of these 'no more than one of such modules because zOMG someone could activate them too soon one after the other' situations... o.O;
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PhamNuwen
Caldari Bungee Jumper
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Posted - 2007.01.07 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Shi Mun Can some1 just enlighten me what thw advantage is of fitting 2 cloaking devices to a ship?
Holy instant recloak batman
I have a blog coming up, which addresses the cyno/cloak bug.
but we expect solutions (how long do we have this bug?!)  Will we get at least a timeframe for fixing? Thx
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FleeFly
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Posted - 2007.01.11 07:03:00 -
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While I'm sure a blog would give us long nights of warm fuzzy feelings, I'd much rather have a fix. It's about as oopid as can be that the recon ship bonuses can only be applied as an either/or proposition.
Imagine if a Domi could use drones or large hybrids, but not both at the same time. Or a 'phoon that could only use siege or large hybrids... but never both. There'd have been an emergency patch, pronto.
So please don't talk to me of 'blogs' or teasingly-worded love-ins having to do with why you got it wrong. Here's the 'toot', now gimmah the 'sweet'!
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DaveW
Caldari South Park Development
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Posted - 2007.02.21 02:29:00 -
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Don't 'blog' the problem. Fix the problem... ---------------------------------------------------
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Deety
VSP Corp. R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.02.21 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: DaveW Don't 'blog' the problem. Fix the problem...
Pay attention, this was fixed, what 3-4 patches ago?
Originally by: Patch Notes It is now possible to fit a Cynosural Field, Clone Vat Bay and Cloaking Device on the same ship with those modules working properly.
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