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Adrien Benoit Gallente Stratos Styx	Posted - 2007.01.02 14:39:00 - [1] I am standing before you to announce the demise of your rotten Federation. I, the reborn, bring the light of the Intaki. I, the reborn, call all true Intaki to do their part. I, the reborn, will trample anyone standing in my way. The Placid region belongs to us. The strong Intaki, able to take what we want. Your ships will be destroyed, your lives will be broken. The day shall come where all that oppose us will drown in their despair, as the Intaki rule the galaxy. You are all pieces on a chessboard, we are here to tip that board over. Die. --- I am the reborn. Stand in my way and regret it.
Varus Riaz Gallente The Durandal Organization	Posted - 2007.01.02 18:14:00 - [2] Why? Honestly, why? Placid is yours? For what reason, what makes it yours? It is a common theme among the Intaki separatists, taking all of Placid. I question why you think you have the right. Until quite recently I have not even seen any Intaki separatists in Placid ever, in my entire piloting career. What I have seen is a series of pro-Federation groups, most notably the Cyrene Initiative. Is it you who have lived in Placid for your entire career? Have you ever sailed through the sky in Intaki or fought pirates in Aulbres? How much of your blood flows through the void, lost in the defense of a region you call home? Recently I have seen Intaki Union in the area, come to spill the blood of Cyrene. After the war with Cyrene, will the Intaki Union remain in Placid, or will it move on, leaving Placid void of a separatistÆs presence once again? Placid is our home. We've purchased it with blood, sweat and time. Long after the Intaki separatists leave, people like me will still live and work for Placid. So come and bring destruction and flames in your wake, burn Placid to the ground in your holy war. What a grand service to your people that will be!
Adrien Benoit Gallente Stratos Styx	Posted - 2007.01.02 18:20:00 - [3] Your ignorance is only surpassed by your insignificance. Not to worry, you will be a thing of the past soon enough. --- I am the reborn. Stand in my way and regret it.
Tyr Vaantau Amarr Peregrin Avionics	Posted - 2007.01.02 18:47:00 - [4] Edited by: Tyr Vaantau on 02/01/2007 18:47:56 Right. Am I correct in thinking that this is just another one with delusions of grandeur to replace a much different reality? It must be another one of those who suffered at the cloning process. Drink some water, rest your weary head, take a couple of days off. Return, read your announcement over again. Wince in embarrassment. That, or stay away from the strange pills that your mother always told you not to touch. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/0loweo/EVEbannerx.gif Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo
Jack Malus Gallente Phoenix Wing	Posted - 2007.01.02 18:55:00 - [5] If you contain the "fire" only to include pirates and terrorists (if you need a list of terrorist targets I can send you one) then have fun. But given your strong words towards the Federation I have a feeling a line will be crossed eventually and you will have to be dealt with. We'll be watching. ---
Leth Orion Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.02 19:09:00 - [6] Somewhere, somehow...something has gone terribly, terribly wrong...! This kind of statement is so against everything that the Path of Ida stands for that not even the INTAKI UNION could side with this! No matter how I feel about them I atleast am convinced that they act with sanity, from their own perspective ofcourse, but with sanity still...this is just...unpleasant and psychotic!
Orran Gelis Aliastra	Posted - 2007.01.02 19:18:00 - [7] Well, alright.
Babs Johnson Sniggerdly	Posted - 2007.01.02 20:53:00 - [8] Edited by: Babs Johnson on 02/01/2007 20:54:12 OK. You want it, and it's yours. Now what are you going to do with it? How will you provide for the welfare of its residents? How will you feed them once assistance from the Federation is ended? How will you maintain and improve upon the infrastructure built by the Federation? How will you govern? The problem with the more excitable Intaki is that it's all fire and light and trampling and taking what you want, but when the shooty-shooty-bang-bang is over, you have no plan -- indeed no clue. So, Monsieur Benoit. Let's assume for the moment that Placid is, in fact, yours. Now what?
Orran Gelis Aliastra	Posted - 2007.01.02 20:59:00 - [9] While I agree that a lot of pilots sending out these 'Free Placid,you all gonna die' messages probably have no idea what they would do if Placid was independent... if they actually came up with a plan for administrating the area, would it even be accepted, regardless of the content? It seems to me that the Intaki seperatist ideas will be rejected by some people regardless of how reasonable and realistic the proposals really are.
Agustus Caesar Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.02 23:29:00 - [10] Originally by: Orran Gelis While I agree that a lot of pilots sending out these 'Free Placid,you all gonna die' messages probably have no idea what they would do if Placid was independent... if they actually came up with a plan for administrating the area, would it even be accepted, regardless of the content? It seems to me that the Intaki seperatist ideas will be rejected by some people regardless of how reasonable and realistic the proposals really are. Maybe your right, maybe not, only one way to know for sure. What seperates anarchists and terrorists from Revolutionaries is a plan for when the lead stops flying. As of this posting the only plan I have seen the seperatists present is: shoot the Feds and anyone who likes them till they all leave. Thats it. You may be right, some staunch federation supporters would probably reject and ridicule any plan the sepratists put forward, but honestly, you were never trying to win them over were you? I'll freely admit that I'm pro-federation (If only because they were vital in securing my people's liberation from Amarrian "enlightenment") and anti-succession but thats mainly because the seperatists have proven themselves in word and deed to be little more than anarchists. I understand you cant go broadcasting every last detail of how your going to run a government on a public channel, but even a general idea of what your going to do (should you prove victorious) would be better than what's been presented so far: nothing. I would be very much interested in seeing intelligent debate on this matter, but I fear this will simply be another thread where pro-Feds are labled as lap dogs and where succcessionists are labled as raving lunatics. Just clear the air and present a plan, untill then any discussion on this topic will just be more mud slinging between both sides. -Caesar ----------------------------- Unless otherwise stated my opinions don't represent that of my corporation and/or alliance, but unless your retarded, that should go without saying
Vendrin Caldari APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.01.03 00:25:00 - [11] If that is all you have seen Augustus, you have been looking in the wrong places, or at least only at the ideas of groups like Intaki Union. _____________________________________ APEX Unlimited is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!
Agustus Caesar Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.03 00:52:00 - [12] Originally by: Vendrin If that is all you have seen Augustus, you have been looking in the wrong places, or at least only at the ideas of groups like Intaki Union. Perhaps I have been looking in the wrong places for a seperatist plan post-revolution; after all my searches haven't extended beyond the posts readily available on gal-net. So far I can only assume that Intaki Union's views represent that of most, if not all, of the Intaki-Seperatist organizations as they are the most vocal and I have yet to see them contradicted by other seperatists. However I would like to keep an open mind on the matter and would be very interested in viewing any seperatists plans for a post-revolutionary government, even non-specific ones, that you would be so kind as to provide a link to. -Caesar ----------------------------- Unless otherwise stated my opinions don't represent that of my corporation and/or alliance, but unless your retarded, that should go without saying
Vendrin Caldari APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.01.03 03:41:00 - [13] Edited by: Vendrin on 03/01/2007 03:41:32 Well many of the people who support a free Intaki state, do not wish for it to come by war, though that may be inevitable if the Federation reacts in the same way as it did when the Caldari attempted to secede. However a few plans I have seen and support, detail that before the Intaki can sustain themselves as a seperate entity then the federation they must have the economic and military infrastructure to do so. At this time they do not, however many are working to change that. At such time when an infrastructure is established a council of the Idama's would become the highest body of legislature with elected individuals in the a lower body of legislature. The above is a very broad synopsis of a paper I once read on the subject. I would provide you with more data on it, but at the time I can not find it. _____________________________________ APEX Unlimited is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information!
Phantomas Gallente INTAKI UNION	Posted - 2007.01.03 04:10:00 - [14] Originally by: Adrien Benoit I am standing before you to announce the demise of your rotten Federation. Standing ovation Originally by: Adrien Benoit I, the reborn, bring the light of the Intaki. Applauds Originally by: Adrien Benoit I, the reborn, call all true Intaki to do their part.I, the reborn, will trample anyone standing in my way. Applauds Originally by: Adrien Benoit The Placid region belongs to us. The strong Intaki, able to take what we want. Your ships will be destroyed, your lives will be broken. The day shall come where all that oppose us will drown in their despair, as the Intaki rule the galaxy. awkward silence... Phantomas turns to Femfatally What did you think? I would say eight out of ten.. an ambitious bunch must say. [2006.04.30 19:30:23] Vremaja Idama > For it is by men of action as yourself that we as Intaki will find our way into the future.
Adrien Benoit Gallente Stratos Styx	Posted - 2007.01.03 08:28:00 - [15] Edited by: Adrien Benoit on 03/01/2007 08:30:07 Originally by: Babs Johnson OK. You want it, and it's yours. Now what are you going to do with it? Ebjoy the spoils Originally by: Babs Johnson How will you provide for the welfare of its residents? I won't. They will fand for themselves. Survival of the fittest has always proved to be the most effective way of evolution. Originally by: Babs Johnson How will you feed them once assistance from the Federation is ended? The strong will hold their own. The weak will die. Originally by: Babs Johnson How will you maintain and improve upon the infrastructure built by the Federation? I am sure some of the lesser races can be utilised as labor. Originally by: Babs Johnson How will you govern? The strong will govern themselves. Governments is nothing but a source of corruption Originally by: Babs Johnson The problem with the more excitable Intaki is that it's all fire and light and trampling and taking what you want, but when the shooty-shooty-bang-bang is over, you have no plan -- indeed no clue. So, Monsieur Benoit. Let's assume for the moment that Placid is, in fact, yours. Now what? Death --- I am the reborn. Stand in my way and regret it.
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.03 09:16:00 - [16] Originally by: Adrien Benoit The Placid region belongs to us. The strong Intaki, able to take what we want. Your ships will be destroyed, your lives will be broken. The day shall come where all that oppose us will drown in their despair, as the Intaki rule the galaxy. This is disturbing, you seek to throw off the Gallente in Placid only to replace it with the Intaki there and everywhere else? How would that make you different than those you abhor enough to seceed from?
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing	Posted - 2007.01.03 09:21:00 - [17] I think someone has been sneaking free booster samples from Coreli lately.... --- We are Recruiting!
Corin Nebulon	Posted - 2007.01.03 12:57:00 - [18] This is the first time I have to agree with Thuul'Kalak. Mindflood might really be an explanation for this. Adrien in my eyes you are not a Intaki freedom fighter, or a rebel, not even a terrorist but a madman who seeks for reasons to kill people. Your quotes of "survival of the fittest" and "lesser races" have shown that you have no idea about the Way of Ida. I can only speak for myself and not for the Intaki Union but I will not allow an entity like you to put its hands on the Intaki people or anybody else. The Intaki should not be oppressed by the Federation, or enslaved by the Empire. However they should not rule the galaxy but they should have the right to live in peace and liberty in a way they have choosen by their own. And this is a right every single human being should have.
Gervais Zhang Gallente The Durandal Organization	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:10:00 - [19] Benoit, you missed your true calling in life. Truly, you should have been a comedian, because nothing you've said can be taken seriously. Cheers. For more jokes, maybe we can meet in space somewhere in the Placid Region... that is, if you ever bother coming here.
Izel Fox	Posted - 2007.01.05 17:22:00 - [20] raises a brow as I come over this upon the NeoCom while in-station Placid is the region of my Corporation's activities, feel free to try and root us out if you wish, but just a sa warning we take protecting our resources and systems very seriously, so be prepared for a fight. Oh and most of Us are Caldari.
Pytria Le'Danness Placid Reborn Placid Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.05 21:34:00 - [21] Originally by: Izel Fox Placid is the region of my Corporation's activities, feel free to try and root us out if you wish, but just a sa warning we take protecting our resources and systems very seriously, so be prepared for a fight. Oh and most of Us are Caldari. This is the sort of thing that is helping the Placid more than any talks about independence, wars or whatnot. So you're Caldari? It does not matter to me at all, as long as your business helps rejuvenation the region anyone can find his place here. Welcome to Placid, and if I'll gladly support your cause. Corporation RP channel: "PlacidReborn"
Izel Fox	Posted - 2007.01.06 06:06:00 - [22] Yes we are a hoping to be of help to the region by building our main operations there, which will help the region by pumping ISK into the economy as well as create jobs for those willing to join.
Samirol Turbulent Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 04:32:00 - [23] good luck getting past the myriad of corps that call placid home Tier 2 BS Lotto Contact mach'ett3 for all your sig needs
Feng Schui Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.01.08 08:08:00 - [24] Edited by: Feng Schui on 08/01/2007 08:05:57 Mmmm.. and here I thought you where going to tell us that all of the Amarrians in Placid will be setting themselves on fire to show all of us "heathen" Minmatar that there is only one god. Oh well.. one could dream, eh?
Rudy Metallo Minmatar G.H.O.S.T	Posted - 2007.01.09 11:47:00 - [25] Oh, I think you'll find it will be quite the opposite my misguided friend. The Placid region is not "yours". Nor shall it ever be. If the Gallentians had never found you in that god forsaken system or yours, you'd still be using rock to cut your food and sticks to battle your foes. The Intaki system, true enough, is your rightful homeland. But do not for a second claim an entire region that, had it not been for the Gallentians, you would not have even known about.
Nekumi Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Rudy Metallo Oh, I think you'll find it will be quite the opposite my misguided friend. The Placid region is not "yours". Nor shall it ever be. If the Gallentians had never found you in that god forsaken system or yours, you'd still be using rock to cut your food and sticks to battle your foes. The Intaki system, true enough, is your rightful homeland. But do not for a second claim an entire region that, had it not been for the Gallentians, you would not have even known about. How could you possibly know what would have become of the Intaki if the Gallente had never interefered with them. Do you think the same of the Matar and the Amarr?
Ryoji Tanakama Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:34:00 - [27] Originally by: Adrien Benoit The Placid region belongs to us. The strong Intaki, able to take what we want. Your ships will be destroyed, your lives will be broken. The day shall come where all that oppose us will drown in their despair, as the Intaki rule the galaxy. Do you truly intend to forge a new empire out of Placid? ~ Ryoji Tanakama
Simon Jax Gallente Freelancing Corp	Posted - 2007.01.10 00:24:00 - [28] "the Reborn"? - You are but one of many. No matter how many share your views, do not presume to speak for all. "survival of the fittest, the ultimate form of evolution"? - Hardly given your narrow view of what it is to be the "strongest". Allowing colonies to die or falter for lack of support does not aid the Intaki "evolution", it weakens the whole. You would allow the region to rot so you can call it "ours" (or, more befitting your delusions, "yours"). Even a dungheap will collapse if you allow the base of it to wash away. You intend to stand atop of it as it falls. --Wherever you go, there you are.
Jon Engel APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.01.12 03:26:00 - [29] Violence causes more violence. The Intaki of Placid live with enough of it in there daily lives. Brining more of it to their shipping lanes and Stations will not convince them to join your side. Lead by example and not by the sword. The only thing you shall find in Placid is criminal outlaws to shoot at. Few if any Federation assets linger for long in the region. The path to self-determination is to be through convincing the people first. Not killing them first.
Nachshon Caldari Tyrfing Securities	Posted - 2007.01.12 05:50:00 - [30] You and what army?

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