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          Korya Tawate 
          Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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        Posted - 2015.11.03 22:52:47 -
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          Reading around about the citadels, I am really really excited about them. They seem really cool. Is anyone else excited about them? Judging from the comments I've read, I've seen a lot of people complaining but I don't really understand why. | 
      
      
      
          
          Marcus Tedric 
          Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation
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        Posted - 2015.11.03 23:00:28 -
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          The toys in the sandbox are being replaced - eventually - by new toys. There will be quite a lot of overlap.
  Many pilots have gotten used to playing with the old toys in certain ways.
  And, classically, comfortable people are very resistant to change. They'll have time to review the new toys - and they'll get quietly excited later as they find new things to do with them - that they couldn't do with the old ones.
  The sky is not falling - it's just slowly changing to a different colour. Me - I'm colour-'blind'...... | 
      
      
      
          
          Raffael Ramirez 
          Alcohol Fuelled
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        Posted - 2015.11.03 23:23:00 -
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          Ok , I have a really basic and potentially stupid question here.
  Citadels are replacing the old POS system, right? What happens to the Outpost, are they being replaced as well by Citadels or is that a different shoe box? Are Outpost still indestructible?
  Haven't had anything to do with POS/Outposts for years, excuse my ignorance.
 
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          Chuffer 
          Testicle of Doom
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        Posted - 2015.11.03 23:38:39 -
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          They're planned to eventually replace POS, it won't be a sudden change. I don't think outposts will change either, you'll just see them becoming less relevant over time as citadels start popping up everywhere. Interesting times ahead. | 
      
      
      
          
          strangescript 
          Solus Ventures
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        Posted - 2015.11.04 00:17:59 -
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          Chuffer wrote:They're planned to eventually replace POS, it won't be a sudden change. I don't think outposts will change either, you'll just see them becoming less relevant over time as citadels start popping up everywhere. Interesting times ahead.  
  This, but they have been implying they will eventually eliminate all the old structures.
  And the big differences are they are not indestructible and can be placed in a lot more locations. Basically like a big ship that has a lot of different functionality and can't move. | 
      
      
      
          
          ISD Dorrim Barstorlode 
          ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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        Posted - 2015.11.04 00:19:40 -
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          I wouldn't mind being able to microjump my citadel around.
 ISD Dorrim Barstorlode 
Vice Admiral 
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) 
Interstellar Services Department 
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          Terranid Meester 
          Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
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        Posted - 2015.11.04 00:23:16 -
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          Citadels are replacing outposts and in some respects, pos's too while other structures are replacing the pos's and their related structures like moon mining platforms etc | 
      
      
      
          
          Raffael Ramirez 
          Alcohol Fuelled
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        Posted - 2015.11.04 00:29:55 -
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          Thanks for the answers!
  I remember outpost were only temporary indestructible as the investment was huge in the beginning, temporary turned into years now. I personally (as a non 0.0 resident) feel like null space is not as unexplored/dangerous anymore since almost every system has outposts now.
  Then again nothing in the coming changes will affect me in any way so I leave the discussion of benefits/risks to people who actually use these toys :).
 
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          Ursula Thrace 
          Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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        Posted - 2015.11.04 00:50:29 -
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          i think the new citadels are amazing! it seems to be a natural progression for the civilizations of new eden.
 eve online original intro 
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          Ranger 1 
          Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
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        Posted - 2015.11.04 01:08:59 -
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          Just a note as you said you've been reading about Citadels. 
  CCP just released the EVE Vegas 2015 presentations about Citadels, Capital Ships, and Ghost fitting on their YouTube channel a few hours ago.
  EVE Online - YouTube
  Or if you prefer, I have put them up on the Virtual Realms channel for my peeps.
  Virtual Realms - EVE Online New Release and Event Coverage Playlist
  You may find them interesting.
 View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms. 
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          d0cTeR9 
          Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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        Posted - 2015.11.04 01:49:28 -
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          Korya Tawate wrote:Reading around about the citadels, I am really really excited about them. They seem really cool. Is anyone else excited about them? Judging from the comments I've read, I've seen a lot of people complaining but I don't really understand why.  
  People in this game will ***** & moan about anything.
  Just ignore 95% of the endless crying for nothing.
 
 
  I read about them. There's been quite a few dev blogs. Much better than wasting 1+ hour watching a video.
 Been around since the beginning. 
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          Nafensoriel 
          KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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        Posted - 2015.11.04 04:43:22 -
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          Anyone who has ever touched a POS loves the idea of citadels.
  Anyone who's ever had to shoot a POS loves the idea of citadels.
  Anyone who can do basic math and has an IQ higher than 1 loves the idea of citadels.
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          Otso Bakarti 
          Filial Pariahs
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        Posted - 2015.11.04 08:11:00 -
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          Citadels don't excite me. Sorry. I get hot flashes over tunnels, however.
 Fear of death follows from fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. -Mark Twain - 
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          La Rynx 
          School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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        Posted - 2015.11.04 08:41:23 -
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          Quote:Am I in the minority here?  
  Yes! Since you are One and we are Many!
  About Citadels: Well not excited, but curious and optimistic.  This, since the Citadels do not come alone, but with more game changes, that might change things all over EvE. Hi-, Lo- and Null-Sec.
 Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE." 
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          Azda Ja 
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          ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:I wouldn't mind being able to microjump my citadel around.  
  
  I wonder how many T2 Jump Dessies that would take...
 Grrr. 
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          Malbona Pomon 
          Petulant Luddite GmbH
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          Azda Ja wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:I wouldn't mind being able to microjump my citadel around.   I wonder how many T2 Jump Dessies that would take...  
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  OP: We are also optimistically excited for citadels. | 
      
      
      
          
          Jenn aSide 
          Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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        Posted - 2015.11.04 15:59:21 -
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          Korya Tawate wrote:Reading around about the citadels, I am really really excited about them. They seem really cool. Is anyone else excited about them? Judging from the comments I've read, I've seen a lot of people complaining but I don't really understand why.  
  You aren't alone. Just the simple fact of CCP telling us about citadel guns and windows was enough to sell me on them, but those things are just the tip of the iceberg.
 
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