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Neo Providence
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Posted - 2007.01.03 02:07:00 -
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well i'm looking into a jaguar set up. my current set up is a passive shield set up which is very good. THIS IS STRICITY A PVE SHIP. it won't last 10 seconds in pvp, welll except against noobs.
highs:
3 125mm autocannon II
1 rocket laucher
mid:
3 shield hardeners (amplifier) [fit this according to the mission damage type. but i use 2 kinetic and 1 explosive.) resistant 75/73/71/60
1 medium subordinate screen stabilizer I
low:
3 shield power relay
my total shield recharge rate is 5.6953125/sec
I have completed most lvl 3 mission for fun in this ship. but it is just slow cuz the cargo can't hold all my items. it is ver easy doing lvl 3 mission in an af. sooo any suggestion as to how i can improve upon this set up?
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.03 02:12:00 -
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Highs/Lows depends on if u want tank or gank so personal preference.
Mids i would suggest something like this:
1x AB II
1x hardener (kinetic amplifier, active kinetic, invulnerability field)
2x Medium Shield Extender II
AB makes u harder to hit which means less damage taken.
The hardener is mission-dependent. Kinetic for Gurista/Serpentis.
But running an Invulnerability Field shouldn`t be a problem with 1-2 PDU in low, so that is a good option.
Extenders add HP strangely enough which creates passive regen and a HP buffer for u to take down NPCs to reduce incoming damage.
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Neo Providence
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Posted - 2007.01.03 02:36:00 -
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 Originally by: FraXy
Highs/Lows depends on if u want tank or gank so personal preference.
Mids i would suggest something like this:
1x AB II
1x hardener (kinetic amplifier, active kinetic, invulnerability field)
2x Medium Shield Extender II
AB makes u harder to hit which means less damage taken.
The hardener is mission-dependent. Kinetic for Gurista/Serpentis.
But running an Invulnerability Field shouldn`t be a problem with 1-2 PDU in low, so that is a good option.
Extenders add HP strangely enough which creates passive regen and a HP buffer for u to take down NPCs to reduce incoming damage.
i'm sorta confused about the AB. doesn't that increase your sig radius, and thus make u easier to hit?
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Marcathonas
The Splinter Syndicate
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 02:41:00 -
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No it doesn't.
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Altrex Stoppel
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2007.01.03 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Providence
Originally by: FraXy
Highs/Lows depends on if u want tank or gank so personal preference.
Mids i would suggest something like this:
1x AB II
1x hardener (kinetic amplifier, active kinetic, invulnerability field)
2x Medium Shield Extender II
AB makes u harder to hit which means less damage taken.
The hardener is mission-dependent. Kinetic for Gurista/Serpentis.
But running an Invulnerability Field shouldn`t be a problem with 1-2 PDU in low, so that is a good option.
Extenders add HP strangely enough which creates passive regen and a HP buffer for u to take down NPCs to reduce incoming damage.
i'm sorta confused about the AB. doesn't that increase your sig radius, and thus make u easier to hit?
Only MWDs increase sig radius while active...I believe once you break 6100m/s though you actually can laugh at most missile damage due to explosion velocity...
Omg, Dark Shikari got pregnant with the forums!
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Litus Arowar
Amarr
Obsidian Asylum
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.03 03:52:00 -
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just playing with quickfit I see this as being alright for PVE
3x200mm AC2
1xAB2 1xF-S9 Extender 2xAMP2 (kin/therm/etc)
1xPDU2 2xGyro2
pretty nice damage, a mediocre 11 shield/sec regen, good resistence, and good speed
Albert Anastacia> Like they say, adapt or die. I adapted and now I get to Iwinbutton all over everyones face. |
Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2007.01.03 03:58:00 -
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use 150mm IIs and a nos
AB II, scrammer, 2x best named medium extenders
2x pdu II and an aux core.
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Litus Arowar
Amarr
Obsidian Asylum
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.01.03 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
use 150mm IIs and a nos
AB II, scrammer, 2x best named medium extenders
2x pdu II and an aux core.
list this setup, as I don't see it fitting...
Albert Anastacia> Like they say, adapt or die. I adapted and now I get to Iwinbutton all over everyones face. |
Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2007.01.03 04:09:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Fighter on 03/01/2007 04:12:00
Originally by: Litus Arowar
Originally by: Dr Fighter
use 150mm IIs and a nos
AB II, scrammer, 2x best named medium extenders
2x pdu II and an aux core.
list this setup, as I don't see it fitting...
Jaguar
150mm Light AutoCannon II [80xBarrage S]
150mm Light AutoCannon II [80xBarrage S]
150mm Light AutoCannon II [80xBarrage S]
Small 'Knave' I Energy Drain
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I
Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
3218 shield, 19.22/s, E/T/K/Ex=75/60/40/60
571 armor, E/T/K/Ex=92/67/25/10
344.53125 cap, +7.17/s, -1.283/s
938.86 m/s
that okay :)
even if you get nossed your still very hard to take down, the nos providing enough cap to run the ab and scram.
I almost beat an ishkur 1v1 with this, and thats no bad thing.
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Kitten Waylander
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Posted - 2007.01.05 11:36:00 -
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Ifn u r a bit crazy on setups it is possible to get 3 200mm AC T2, 2 xtender T2 a gist ab, a scrammer and a nos going, u only need to fit 2 named powercores, afaik k-xhausts. Oh, and a shield power relay.
Quite a nice tank, have tried it and it works very well - downside is you could buy a tier 1 bs for what it costs. |
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.01.05 11:39:00 -
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I fit 3x 200mm II, mwd, 7,5km, 2x t2 med extender, 1x gyro II, 2x MAPC
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Daftex Muleson
Minmatar
UNITED KINGDOM MAYHEM
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Posted - 2007.01.05 13:16:00 -
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How can a setup with hardeners be "passive"? You need cap to run them therefore surely they are "active" and your shield tank relies on an active component?
Pure passive would be extenders with Shield Power Relays wouldn't it?
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Neo Providence
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Posted - 2007.01.05 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Daftex Muleson
How can a setup with hardeners be "passive"? You need cap to run them therefore surely they are "active" and your shield tank relies on an active component?
Pure passive would be extenders with Shield Power Relays wouldn't it?
well there r two type of hardeners, active and passive. and i guess most of us would use a passive one (amplifier) if it is a passive shield tank.
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Isonkon Serikain
Gallente
Band of Builders Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.05 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
use 150mm IIs and a nos
AB II, scrammer, 2x best named medium extenders
2x pdu II and an aux core.
He's asking for pve... forget the scram and fit something else... Also you dont need all this cap. For pve... I'd pull the scram and fit a designated passive hardener.
Dr Fighter, I have a similar pvp setup, tho for more dmg... You should have killed that ishkur... Pull a pdu out, put 2 mapc and a gyro... Fit a web and a rocket launcher, not a nos.
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