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Neoenderli
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Posted - 2007.01.03 15:45:00 -
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Right now I have a decent PVE Setup for my Drake, able to rat 0.0 space fine (I'm relatively low SP character) and I'm looking for a setup to compliment my corp/alliance in PVP. If I can find a happy medium where I'm not swapping out fittings, it would be great. If not possible, I can just buy another Drake and fit it out, but I would rather not.
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Greyshadow
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.03 15:59:00 -
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Check the ship setups sticky at the top of the ships & modules section.
There have been loads of great topics on the Drake in PvP so your find a good setup in one of them. 
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Neoenderli
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Posted - 2007.01.03 16:04:00 -
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Thanks, I was JUST about to reply and say "uhh where?" lol :)
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Greyshadow
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.03 16:10:00 -
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Cool well hopefully that helps, if you need any advice gimme a bell ingame more than happy to help.
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Neoenderli
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Posted - 2007.01.03 16:52:00 -
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Just wanted to see how this sounded?
High -
4x Limo Heavy Launcher
3X Malkuth Heavy Launcher
Med -
2x Regolith Extender
1x Invuln Field
1x Micro Warp Drive
1x Warp Scram
1x Shield Regen
Low -
2x BCU
1x Reactor Control Unit
1x Shield Power Relay (Not sure if this even usefull at all)
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Francis Hemlock
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Posted - 2007.01.03 17:42:00 -
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Well having made and use my Drake all the time, this is the best (at the moment) I have come up with.
High:
7 Named Heavy Launchers (Lowest CPU the better)
1 Tractor Beam (Hey I'm lazy)
Med:
1 Inv field
5 T2 Large Shield Extenders (I sometimes will replace 1 extender for a Hardner)
Low:
1 Bolt Cross Array (Faster Reloading and increased Damage)
2 Reactor Array (Need the power for the Shields)
1 Power Diagnostics (Help the Shield recharge and Cap recharge as well as more power)
Rigs
Core Defense Shield (+15% to your TOTAL shield)
Missile Reload (Gives you 10% faster reload time)
Now before you get your flame thrower fingers ready letme give you the specs on this: 
With 5 Extenders and the Rig I have OVER 25K in shields
With the launchers, if I fire, with a one second pause between each startup, I can fire over 100 heavy missiles in 60 seconds. 
I have this set as such and use it all the time. I run level 4 missions and even do some pvp with it. I have been told by other pvp that I have used it on that the CONSTANT barrage of missile fire is not only uneriving, but causes them to lose confidence and think of fleeing. In PVP that is exactly what you want. 
I also carry 1000 heavy missiles of each type in my hold. And one type in each launcher. Once I see what hurts you the most its hammering time.
And from 50K away. 
Also during an engagement I point to my warp loc. I have never had my shields drop below 50% but my magic number is 25% and I'm outta there. Also if I'm doing PVP if you become close enough to scram, I'm already gone. 
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Black Scorpio
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:39:00 -
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Hey dude,
You can use the following:
5 heavies named
2x NOS named
1x large T2 shield booster
1x Scram
1x Web ( you may need to hold your target, drakes aren't Formula 1's out there :)
1x EM, 1x Heat, 1x Inv, preferably T2s hardeners
Low - PDUs and BCUs as needed (use max 2 BCU if power/cpu allows on that ship)
Drones - 5 light ECM!
Have fun :)
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Neoenderli
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Black Scorpio
Hey dude,
You can use the following:
5 heavies named
2x NOS named
1x large T2 shield booster
1x Scram
1x Web ( you may need to hold your target, drakes aren't Formula 1's out there :)
1x EM, 1x Heat, 1x Inv, preferably T2s hardeners
Low - PDUs and BCUs as needed (use max 2 BCU if power/cpu allows on that ship)
Drones - 5 light ECM!
Have fun :)
Doesn't that leave my max shield sort of lacking?
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Fortune B
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Francis Hemlock
Med:
1 Inv field
5 T2 Large Shield Extenders (I sometimes will replace 1 extender for a Hardner)
Low:
1 Bolt Cross Array (Faster Reloading and increased Damage)
2 Reactor Array (Need the power for the Shields)
1 Power Diagnostics (Help the Shield recharge and Cap recharge as well as more power)
Rigs
Core Defense Shield (+15% to your TOTAL shield)
Missile Reload (Gives you 10% faster reload time)
How Are you possible to fitt 5 LSE II? I Cant fitt more than 2 and i have herd that the 3rd will be possible when i hit advanced weapon upgrades lvl2.
And even so dont you think 3 harderners and 3 LSEII wuld be better?
And with allot of shields even without the "Core Defense Shield (+15% to your TOTAL shield)" Dont you think the rig for shield recharge rate is better and more effective than the extra 15% shields? Sins they do -20% recharge time?
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FuzzBuzz
Caldari
Templars of Space
CORE.
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Francis Hemlock
Well having made and use my Drake all the time, this is the best (at the moment) I have come up with.
High:
7 Named Heavy Launchers (Lowest CPU the better)
1 Tractor Beam (Hey I'm lazy)
Med:
1 Inv field
5 T2 Large Shield Extenders (I sometimes will replace 1 extender for a Hardner)
Low:
1 Bolt Cross Array (Faster Reloading and increased Damage)
2 Reactor Array (Need the power for the Shields)
1 Power Diagnostics (Help the Shield recharge and Cap recharge as well as more power)
Rigs
Core Defense Shield (+15% to your TOTAL shield)
Missile Reload (Gives you 10% faster reload time)
Now before you get your flame thrower fingers ready letme give you the specs on this:
With 5 Extenders and the Rig I have OVER 25K in shields
With the launchers, if I fire, with a one second pause between each startup, I can fire over 100 heavy missiles in 60 seconds.
I have this set as such and use it all the time. I run level 4 missions and even do some pvp with it. I have been told by other pvp that I have used it on that the CONSTANT barrage of missile fire is not only uneriving, but causes them to lose confidence and think of fleeing. In PVP that is exactly what you want.
I also carry 1000 heavy missiles of each type in my hold. And one type in each launcher. Once I see what hurts you the most its hammering time.
And from 50K away.
Also during an engagement I point to my warp loc. I have never had my shields drop below 50% but my magic number is 25% and I'm outta there. Also if I'm doing PVP if you become close enough to scram, I'm already gone.
Hope that helps.
im going to try this, added to quickfit when i get the rigs will see what its made of
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Majin82
Caldari
g guild
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Posted - 2007.01.03 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Francis Hemlock
High:
7 Named Heavy Launchers (Lowest CPU the better)
1 Tractor Beam (Hey I'm lazy)
Med:
1 Inv field
5 T2 Large Shield Extenders (I sometimes will replace 1 extender for a Hardner)
Low:
1 Bolt Cross Array (Faster Reloading and increased Damage)
2 Reactor Array (Need the power for the Shields)
1 Power Diagnostics (Help the Shield recharge and Cap recharge as well as more power)
Rigs
Core Defense Shield (+15% to your TOTAL shield)
Missile Reload (Gives you 10% faster reload time)
... OVER 25K in shields...
This seems like an okay setup, but hardly as good as it could be.
First mistake I am seeing is that you went for Large amounts of shields over resists.
Resists > Shield Buffer. If you can reduce the amount of damage you take you will survive much longer.
The second mistake is you have no way to reapir the shields. You are not running a true passive tank and your recharge must be in the 500 sec range. How do you expect to stand up to large amounts of DPS for more then 60 seconds?
Unless you have BC 4 or 5 your base resists are gonna be low, which means you are gonna take a lot of the damage headed your way. Also since all you have is a large buffer, your tank will not last.
I do not doubt this set up could take on some people, but if you come across a well set-up ship, if you get scramed, you are not gonna survive the fight.
You have the right Idea and no doubt you are tight on CPU due to that Missile Rig, so are limited by what you can field. Here are some changes I think you should make, while I do not know what your PG and CPU are like, try to see if this will work for you.
HIGH
7 x Heavy Launchers
1 x Tractor Beam
MID
2 x Invul. Field
4 x LSE II
LOW
1 x RCU (Gonna need the extra PG)
3 x PDS
This should give you 20k+ Shields with a recharge in the 360 sec range.
Also depending on your skills your Resists should all be in the 60-70's.
While this is hardly perfect for PVP, it should work better at keeping you in the fight longer.
You were trying for a Gank-Tank, which will leave you open at two ends. Go Gank or go Tank.
This is just my opinion, trying to give a hand is all.
Majin82
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Marquis Dean
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.03 23:45:00 -
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I feel I have to point out that having 5 x LSE will give you the sig radius of a pos, meaning that critical time before the enemy BS's lock will drop from maybe 4 seconds to about 0.5, as well as meaning you will take full damage from torps and probably citadel torps aswell, should you meet an unfriendly Phoenix in your adventures.
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