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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:35:00 -
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afaik the only way to trade rigges ships would be the direct trade in a station, right?
last time i checked contracts wouldnt work.
well... maybe freeform would work, but as i understand it, people are arent touching freeform contracts with a 3 foot pole, due to all the scamming...
well..even in the direct trade window the potential buyer has no way to check what rigs the ship has installed. (or even if it has any at all)
does anybody know a way to trade rigged ships securely?
or if there ever will be one?
any help appreciated.
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Vandar Broheem
Universal Dynamics
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Vandar Broheem on 03/01/2007 18:59:00
Setting up a contract with the packaged ship and the rigs NOT installed seems like the most obvious option to me.
If whoever buys the ship does not have the skill to install the rigs to the ship after unpacking it then they couldn't have used them anyway.
Seems a minor annoyance on the buyers end to have to click a couple buttons to install them after purchase.
In fact the only reason I can think of to sell an assembled ship with the rigs already installed (with the current system) is to try and scam somebody since there is no way for them to verify the rigs installed till after the purchase.
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 03/01/2007 19:03:17
here's another reason than scamming for you:
what if you got a ship with rigs already installed that you actually dont need that much, and therefore could sell it, and you need isk fast? for exotic dancers and spirits for instance? huh?
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Kloro Draz
Gallente
Ex Coelis
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Vandar Broheem
If whoever buys the ship does not have the skill to install the rigs to the ship after unpacking it then they couldn't have used them anyway.
Do you need the skills to use a rigged ship? or just install?
Originally by: Vandar Broheem
In fact the only reason I can think of to sell an assembled ship with the rigs already installed (with the current system) is to try and scam somebody since there is no way for them to verify the rigs installed till after the purchase.
When I was reading the dev logs, it appeared that rigs would allow people to produce custom ships, with meaningful modifications.
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:25:00 -
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If theyre in a trade window, i think you can click 'show info' and see the mods (and rigs) installed.
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
If theyre in a trade window, i think you can click 'show info' and see the mods (and rigs) installed.
thats at least how it SHOULD be.
but i think in "show info" you can only see the rigs of the ship youre in...
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Fenderson
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:33:00 -
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You can place a fitted, assembled ship including rigs into an item exchange or auction contract. If you put a fitted ship into a contract, it lists each module fitted on the ship as a separate item in the contract. I have not tried this with a rig fitted ship but i assume that rigs would be listed in the same way as modules.
If not then they should be.
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Vandar Broheem
Universal Dynamics
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kloro Draz
Do you need the skills to use a rigged ship? or just install?
The exact same skills are required to fit and use the rigs.
Originally by: Kloro Draz
When I was reading the dev logs, it appeared that rigs would allow people to produce custom ships, with meaningful modifications.
Dev blogs and reality are not always congruent.
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Fenderson
You can place a fitted, assembled ship including rigs into an item exchange or auction contract. If you put a fitted ship into a contract, it lists each module fitted on the ship as a separate item in the contract. I have not tried this with a rig fitted ship but i assume that rigs would be listed in the same way as modules.
If not then they should be.
if you try you get this message:
Quote:
You cannot unfit an upgrade. Once installed the ship can only be rid of them by being reprocessed or repackaged.
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Jarjar
exscape corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:40:00 -
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Hmm, you get that message when you create a contract? Sound odd if that's the case.
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Gort
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:43:00 -
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And when is the cloak/cyno field generator bug going to be fixed, in addition to this one? hmmm? 
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Ortos
Svefn-G-Englar
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Posted - 2007.01.03 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Vandar Broheem
Originally by: Kloro Draz
Do you need the skills to use a rigged ship? or just install?
The exact same skills are required to fit and use the rigs.
Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong (Scrubs quote. sorry :P )
The rigging skills are only needed for fitting the rigs. the pilot doesn't have to have them at all.
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Jessamine
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Posted - 2007.01.03 23:01:00 -
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One of the reasons this is useful is my case:
I currently have a Raven which I have fitted with rigs (maybe not optimal but not bad at all) and I will be buying a CNR soon, I would like to get more than 113 for my raven, hence it is important to be able to sell rigged ships.
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