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Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:40:00 -
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Star Fraction and Intaki Union announcement:
The Free Captains of the Star Fraction and Intaki Union wish to announce that they have come to an understanding, formalizing their friendship with an eye towards collaboration versus enemies mutual to our causes.
Coming out stronger than ever from their conflict in Mito Constellation, the Star Fraction has apprised itself of significant developments in other regions of the New Eden cluster. In a particularly notable instance, the Star Fraction found itself approached by Intaki Union. As a force fighting for the liberty of the Intaki there was cause found for both enthusiasm and concern. A liberation of the repressed peoples of the Intaki region from the repressive yoke of Federate politocracy could only be a step in the right direction, but concerns existed regarding the long-term agenda of the Intaki Union.
The Intaki Union, having had their ties to Amarr paramilitaries severed, effectively dispelled these concerns and laid forth a plan that could only be in the interest of the Free Captains.
To this end, a treaty of friendship is hereby signed. Any further details of the understanding are reserved for relevant parties only, but the Free Captains and the Intaki Union wish to make it clear to the inquisitive that they can now consider the two entities friends with mutual interests.
Signing on behalf of Star Fraction, Tatsue Nuko CEO, Tabula Rasa Systems
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Phantomas
Gallente INTAKI UNION
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:42:00 -
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Signed
-Phantomas Founder Intaki Union [2006.04.30 19:30:23] Vremaja Idama > For it is by men of action as yourself that we as Intaki will find our way into the future. |
Varus Riaz
Gallente The Durandal Organization
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Posted - 2007.01.06 02:53:00 -
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Congratulations on committing yourself to the creation of a greater Free Intaki State. Truly a wonderful nationalistic goal you set for yourselves.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.06 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: Varus Riaz Congratulations on committing yourself to the creation of a greater Free Intaki State. Truly a wonderful nationalistic goal you set for yourselves.
We haven't done so. We've committed to friendship with those who would help themselves achieve freedom.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Recruitment |
Vendrin
Caldari APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.01.06 03:01:00 -
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You both deserve each other. _____________________________________
APEX Unlimited is recruiting. Join channel APEXCOM for information! |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.06 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Varus Riaz Congratulations on committing yourself to the creation of a greater Free Intaki State. Truly a wonderful nationalistic goal you set for yourselves.
I suggest reading the various threads on the subject before submitting a comment to public scrutiny. It'll do wonders for your reputation.
Star Fraction is recruiting
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.01.06 04:04:00 -
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*looks at her chess table and smiles* Let it begin.
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Varus Riaz
Gallente The Durandal Organization
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Posted - 2007.01.06 04:09:00 -
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I read them. It puzzles me, to be honest. You want a free Intaki people, no Intaki State. Crystal clear, got it.
Intaki Union wants independence from the Federation. Ok, so far so good. Intaki Union supports the formation of a "Free Intaki State." Also crystal clear. They mentioned a Free Intaki State here on Galnet.
Ok, so I track your goals independent of one another. Now let me try and fit them together.
Intaki Union hates the Federation, you hate the Federation, check. Intaki Union wants freedom, you want freedom. Still matching up here. Intaki Union wants to organize a new government and state, Star Fraction hates governments and states as they limit freedom. Woah, here we go. How does this issue reconcile itself?
I'm just a simple Gallente city boy here, so maybe I'm just getting confused by you complicated post-Humanist philosophers. I thought I read the Cosmopolite stating how he opposed any idea of a "Greater Intaki Free State," but I guess those big ol' words just confused the likes of me.
Anyhow, how I see it, and maybe there are other simple people out there who see it the same way, is a basic conflict of interest. Intaki Union is trying to pull off a second Caldari secession, and make their own nation. I'm not certain how you "Free Captains" feel about the Caldari State, but "Mitograd" made me think you aren't exactly all cuddly with them. So, yes, this whole thing seems strange to me.
Anyways, feel free to educate me on the truth behind this conflict.
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Davlos
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.06 04:58:00 -
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There is nothing to educate, Mr. Riaz. Intaki Union are being used, just as the Black Rabbits were in "Mitograd".
It's quite laughable really, a Guristas cell claiming to be freespacers. They're pirates. ---------------
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Tatsue Nuko
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.06 05:06:00 -
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The pirate is less an enemy of freedom than the imperialist.
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Jon Engel
APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.01.06 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tatsue Nuko The pirate is less an enemy of freedom than the imperialist.
Spoken like a true pirate.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.06 05:11:00 -
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* The Cosmopolite smiles and shakes his head...
Yes, Varus Riaz, you read 'something' and here it is in full:
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
I can only disagree profoundly with the suggestion that some 'Greater Intaki' state characterised by nationalism and territorialism should be the goal of the Intaki people and those who support them.
I do not see the Intaki Union as seeking to set up a territorial, enclosurist and xenophobic Intaki State. Indeed, among the many strands of thought in their movement is the prominent view that the open, commerce-oriented Intaki Syndicate could serve as a model for their aspirations. This is not a form of social and political organisation with which we have any deep philosophical problems.
So, quite apart from the falsity of any claim that allies must necessarily share all their aims from now into the future, there is no contradiction in an alliance between the Free Captains of the Star Fraction and the fighters and visionaries of the Intaki Union.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction Recruitment |
Femfatally
INTAKI UNION
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Posted - 2007.01.06 06:47:00 -
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Edited by: Femfatally on 06/01/2007 06:46:16 Just so, Intaki Union has not the desire nor the power to enforce a government system on the Intaki people. The Intaki Union will see an end of the Federation's represion the Intaki People.
Signed. Femfatally CEO, Intaki Union.
"When patience has begotten false estimates of its motives, when wrongs are pressed because it is believed they will be borne, resistance becomes morality" -- Ancient Freedom Fighter |
Yarod Cool
Team JAVELIN The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.01.06 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Femfatally Edited by: Femfatally on 06/01/2007 06:46:16 Just so, Intaki Union has not the desire nor the power to enforce a government system on the Intaki people. The Intaki Union will see an end of the Federation's represion the Intaki People.
Signed. Femfatally CEO, Intaki Union.
So you want to force them to leave the Federation.
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Varus Riaz
Gallente The Durandal Organization
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Posted - 2007.01.06 07:08:00 -
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Okay, a little more educated now. I'm still a bit slow though, so lets see if I can grasp this now.
1. Pirates are better than imperialists. Ok. 2. The Intaki Free State is a proposed government, is a state, but its ok because we like the Intaki seperatists so we make an exception for them. 3. The Intaki Free State is a government, but we are freeing the Intaki people from one form of government to another form of government.
Still not quite tracking. Maybe I'm a little bit closer?
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Phantomas
Gallente INTAKI UNION
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Posted - 2007.01.06 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Vendrin You both deserve each other.
Yes I agree.. It is a wise friendship with Star Fractions sheer power and Intaki Unions growing strength nothing is impossible.
Vendrin stop getting excited your Gallentean colors are showing again. Remember less really is more... in fact that is my theory for Federal Loyalists.
[2006.04.30 19:30:23] Vremaja Idama > For it is by men of action as yourself that we as Intaki will find our way into the future. |
Adrien Bastalle
Gallente Liberator's
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Posted - 2007.01.06 09:25:00 -
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I assume with this move Star Fraction will stop lying and posturing as being against any empires. Formally announcing friendship and cooperation with a group that has time and time again shown it's role as a lapdog and servant of the Amarr Empire, working actively to weaken the Intaki and Federation into a position where they can be more easily reclaimed.
They have even openly admitted this here on IGS.
It is good to see the Fraction show itself as a bootlicker of the Amarr empire aswell. Some honesty at least.
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Gervais Zhang
Gallente The Durandal Organization
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Posted - 2007.01.06 09:39:00 -
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I think you give Star Fraction too little credit. They're just playing the Union because it's politically expedient. War declarations against IU won't be long in coming if they successfully conclude a war against CYI. The best part is that several Caldari corporations are poised to further Fraction interests; seems they didn't learn much from SF's last war...
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Destania
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.06 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Gervais Zhang
They're just playing the Union because it's politically expedient. War declarations against IU won't be long in coming if they successfully conclude a war against CYI. The best part is that several Caldari corporations are poised to further Fraction interests; seems they didn't learn much from SF's last war...
At least the other nay sayers have managed to use some logic (even if it's off the radar) to bolster their argument. So far from you, all I see are empty aligations backed up with...empty proof? If your going argue a point, the least you can do is attempt some sort of logical backing.
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Graelyn
Amarr The Aeternus Crusade Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.01.06 10:35:00 -
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IU has no relations with Amarr Paramilitaries. (CVA/AM/VV/PIE)
As it stood, AM was the only one that ever gave IU the time of day, mainly as it was made up of our more 'dramatic' ex-members who betrayed us during the Revan purge. We forgave, we gave good wishes, we became involved against VF with them after 'The Bastables Incident'. All was good.
Ah, history.
Maintaining this relationship has become FAR too much of a headache, as a minor standings question (completely my fault) led to accusations of myself having 'plotted against them from the beginning'.
I don't need to tolerate any such accusations from, well, anybody, much less old sources of internal problems, thusly, all ties to Amarr Paramilitaries are severed, and the last bastion of the Seraph's dream is laid to rest. Long may it stay that way.
This announcement seems to validate these issues as truly heaven sent. What Amarrian Paramilitary wants SF sympathisers as allies? Ever sold a stock 5 minutes before it cratered? It's that kind of feeling.
Now the REAL question: Revan+SF and IU+SF cannot co-exist. Will there be a scism, or will there be one big uncomfortable dinnertable? Even I can't predict that one....
"Victory is in reach, if you can but open your eyes to it." Admiral/Executor - Aegis Militia |
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deadly eggroll
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Posted - 2007.01.06 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: deadly eggroll on 06/01/2007 11:09:10
Originally by: Revan Neferis *looks at her chess table and smiles* Let it begin.
Paging Revan. This is your friendly Wal-Mart pharmacist. Your prozac is ready. You or one of your twenty plus personalities can pick them up at your/her/him/their leisure.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Luna Rossa Corporation The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.06 11:39:00 -
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Congratulations on allying yourself with a terrorist organisation with dreams of a totalitarian state. You've ceased even pretending to make sense and you're now just looking like a circus freakshow.
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Caratacus
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Posted - 2007.01.06 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Congratulations on allying yourself with a terrorist organisation with dreams of a totalitarian state. You've ceased even pretending to make sense and you're now just looking like a circus freakshow.
Well said.
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Helpdesk
Caldari The Patriot Pact
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Posted - 2007.01.06 11:44:00 -
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As CEO of The Patriot Pact, I hereby announce that we wish nothing to do with this war any longer.
Working alongside the Intaki Union was borderline for us, but we accepted as our goal, the destruction of the pro-Gallente alliance 'The Cyrene Initiative', was the same as Intaki Union's goal.
However, we wish nothing to do with our enemies from the Mito-war; The Black Rabbits and The Star Fraction. While it's a just cause to attack The Cyrene Initiative, we would feel horrible if the destruction of a Cyrene ship would benefit The Fraction or The Rabbits.
May each entity in this war, except the Patriot Society, slay eachother.
The Patriot Pact ends her war with The Cyrene Initiative with the following statistics*:
Lost: - Crow (1x) - Raven (2x)
Kills: - Ares (2x) - Brutix (1x) - Capsule (7x) - Caracal (1x) - Incursus (2x) - Lachesis (1x) - Omen (1x) - Reaper (1x) - Shuttle (1x) - Taranis (4x) - Thorax (1x)
*Since our killboard was offline during this war, these statistics are based on mails from CONCORD and kills and losses I was personally involved in. Due to the inactivity of the other members of The Patriot Pact, the statistics shouldn't be too far off.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.01.06 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn Now the REAL question: Revan+SF and IU+SF cannot co-exist. Will there be a scism, or will there be one big uncomfortable dinnertable? Even I can't predict that one....
I demand you to predict old little man! This is one of my sources of entertainment for the past year and I'm not just ready to let you free as a my personal jester.
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Graelyn
Amarr The Aeternus Crusade Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.01.06 12:04:00 -
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Aww.
You'll have to simply reminice on your defeats at my hand on the battlefield I guess.
Now get back on topic?
"Victory is in reach, if you can but open your eyes to it." Admiral/Executor - Aegis Militia |
Revan Neferis
Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2007.01.06 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn Aww.
You'll have to simply reminice on your defeats at my hand on the battlefield I guess.
Now get back on topic?
Ah yes... the defeat of AM losing their conclave, 2 poses, and 60% of their members at VF wars... of course I shall reminice of those sweet memories, I know you miss me.
what is the topic btw?
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2007.01.06 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Helpdesk
As CEO of The Patriot Pact, I hereby announce that we wish nothing to do with this war any longer.
Working alongside the Intaki Union was borderline for us, but we accepted as our goal, the destruction of the pro-Gallente alliance 'The Cyrene Initiative', was the same as Intaki Union's goal.
Destruction of Cyrene is still what we are after, it was a pleasure to fly with you Helpdesk and may you kill many Federation Loyalists in the comming years.
Graelyn, this conflict has nothing to do with you, you know nothing about it and your insults are getting tired.
Aegis Militia is full of honorable pilots, much loved.
Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think.
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Tarsha Listur
Glamour Bunnies Glamour Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.06 18:09:00 -
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curious that the Amarr and IU are no longer in bed together, i wonder what prompted this little spat. Though it is disappointing to see SF siding with IU on this. The Intaki people do not want to be associated with IU in any way shape or form, they are puirates at best, and terrorist scum in reality. The federation has fualts yes, but the tripe spouted by these foamy mouthed zealots is beginning to annoy many good natured Intaki.
So Mr Bliss you may or may not be Amataki now, but you nor any of your corp members are Intaki regardless of their bloodline. You will not now or ever speak for the Intaki people
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Phantomas
Gallente INTAKI UNION
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Posted - 2007.01.06 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn IU has no relations with Amarr Paramilitaries. (CVA/AM/VV/PIE)
As it stood, AM was the only one that ever gave IU the time of day, mainly as it was made up of our more 'dramatic' ex-members who betrayed us during the Revan purge. We forgave, we gave good wishes, we became involved against VF with them after 'The Bastables Incident'. All was good.
Ah, history.
This is almost true... Bastables was indeed attacked by underworld protection agency (hired by Revan)...but Aegis Militia was declared on not Intaki Union that next day. We came to your aid when no other Amarrian paramilitaries were, mostly because of our past friendly interactions and we had a score to settle. We turned the tide of that war early on and only left when CVA, the much stronger friendlies to AM, were involved.
How many times did we defend your pos's? This was done out of past friendships. Then when Mirial's leadership was gone the first thing you did was insult us. Though internally you took some heat and now admit that it was your fault.
Intaki Union had good reason to enter that war. One of our pilots (Bastables) was attacked in low security space, we got our pound of flesh in the end.
But enough its ancient history by now.
-Phantomas
[2006.04.30 19:30:23] Vremaja Idama > For it is by men of action as yourself that we as Intaki will find our way into the future. |
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