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subvert
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Posted - 2007.01.06 23:48:00 -
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how rare is the rattlesnake, where does it come from/where do you get it, and what are its stats compared to the CNR?
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolance
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Posted - 2007.01.07 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 07/01/2007 00:07:27
Originally by: subvert how rare is the rattlesnake, where does it come from/where do you get it, and what are its stats compared to the CNR?
pretty rare, agents&finding officer spawn that drops the bpc, stats..check ingame...
I can tell you: CNR = stronger raven + 1 extra missile slot, Rattle = raven with scorphull and 1 extra low.
cnr = more damaging rattle = more tanking _________________________________________________ Breetime
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Ralara
Caldari Reunited O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.01.07 00:51:00 -
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also the CNR is about a billion cheaper 
If someone was to offer me one right now, I'd pick the CNR since it's a lot less to "lose". Overall they're about equal really.
If you want to strike fear into someone when PVPing, then a rattlesnake will do that - I'd run if I was in a CNR and someone came in with a rattlesnake - it means they have the isk to lose upto 3 billion isk of stuff (or more), and they dont mind taking it into pvp. They're either very very good, or very very stupid, and really, with that firepower available, either is very dangerous to it's target    --
Yeah, so Caldari suck at close range. Pity you'll never get there.
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Mordaunt
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.07 01:01:00 -
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They're both ugly as hell tho.
Can't wait for a faction Rokh 
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolance
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Posted - 2007.01.07 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mordaunt They're both ugly as hell tho.
Can't wait for a faction Rokh 
First faction domi, black..green trails and Superbonussen towards NOS  _________________________________________________ Breetime
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.07 02:31:00 -
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Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/01/2007 02:28:42
Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: Mordaunt They're both ugly as hell tho.
Can't wait for a faction Rokh 
First faction domi, black..green trails and Superbonussen towards NOS 
+1 to drone control per level. 10 T2 OGRES!!!1oneeleven
Edit: Sorry, accidental derail :P Personally if i ever found a Rattlesnake BPC id sell it, buy a CNR and some nice deadspace items to boost my tank.
Originally by: Nev Clavain If a war of such scale does go down the sheer forum activity will probably put the server down for good.
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May Long
Caldari Cross Roads Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.01.07 06:11:00 -
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Edited by: May Long on 07/01/2007 06:07:57 I bet its many a caldari's wet dream to have a Faction Rokh
an extra 5% res bonus per lvl *drool*
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Wildwa
Shadow Command
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Posted - 2007.01.07 07:08:00 -
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I've used both. I run a lot of level 4 missions, the extra low slot on the Rattlesnake is nice, but to be honest the dps on the CNR is better. I'm currently using a Rattlesnake, but as soon as i get my next CNR offer i will be back to using that.
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Tisanta
Amarr Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom
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Posted - 2007.01.07 08:42:00 -
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rattlesnake is just a raven in a differnt skin ---

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Local pusher
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Posted - 2007.01.07 09:26:00 -
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I really wonder why people never fit rattlesnake in 4/4 version, it should work quite well.
Oh i forgot that guns suck, so 6x launcher 2x nosf... on 100% rattlesnakes.
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Mordaunt
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.07 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: May Long
I bet its many a caldari's wet dream to have a Faction Rokh
an extra 5% res bonus per lvl *drool*
The current 5% res bonus will do, an extra damage bonus would be lovely tho. 
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.07 11:03:00 -
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A Caldari Navy Rokh would have the same bonuses.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.07 11:27:00 -
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Rattlesnake with guns aint gonna work - doesn't have the PG to fit them (unless you want to waste 2 lows on RCU-II's).
In short, CNR for pve, rattlesnake for pvp. CNR has better dps but less hitpoints and less tank. Rattlesnake has more hitpoints, lower DPS but much better tank. Plus its sexy (see sig).
For solo pvp both suck though - in case of the rattlesnake you want a gist-tank (b-type is cheap and still decent) so that's a large booster, boost amp, EM, THE, KIN hardeners and invu field-II - which means you cant tackle yourself. Best is to have a nanophoon do that for you.
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Neon Genesis
Gallente Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.01.07 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 07/01/2007 02:28:42
Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: Mordaunt They're both ugly as hell tho.
Can't wait for a faction Rokh 
First faction domi, black..green trails and Superbonussen towards NOS 
+1 to drone control per level. 10 T2 OGRES!!!1oneeleven
Edit: Sorry, accidental derail :P Personally if i ever found a Rattlesnake BPC id sell it, buy a CNR and some nice deadspace items to boost my tank.
It's so funny to think of the old days when you could field silly amounts of drones. It seems so dumb now 
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Denga Vulture
The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.07 11:44:00 -
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Tbh a faction drone ship is realy needed .. nothing in game yet No matter of its stats ... but a serpentis would be quite cool 
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari VSP Corp. R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.07 11:45:00 -
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Just say screw them both and try to get a Corvus 
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.07 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Denga Vulture Tbh a faction drone ship is realy needed .. nothing in game yet No matter of its stats ... but a serpentis would be quite cool 
I think overall, the game coul use alot more faction ships, and not just upgrades versions like the CNR or rattle, but some cool bonuses and different things like the nightmare (needs buff) and vindicator.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:01:00 -
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Bhaalgorn is nice. Wish it did a bit more damage though.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.01.07 19:28:00 -
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i think it was somehow calculated that because of better pg/cpu or slots whatever on the RS if you have an infinite amount of best items at your disposal the rattlesnake could get better dps then the CNR because it can fit torp launchers with more estamel's BCU's or something, don't ask me how it works exactly i saw it calculated somewhere =P
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agent apple
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.07 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Deathbarrage i think it was somehow calculated that because of better pg/cpu or slots whatever on the RS if you have an infinite amount of best items at your disposal the rattlesnake could get better dps then the CNR because it can fit torp launchers with more estamel's BCU's or something, don't ask me how it works exactly i saw it calculated somewhere =P
You are correct. The rattlesnake can fit full officer setup with estemel siege doing far more dps. The CNR cannot. However Estemel Siege Rattlesnakes for pvp are somewhat a rarerity.
The CNR is superior for pvp, a deadspace fitted CNR will do more DPS tank just as hard but lacks some HP compared to the Rattler. The Rattlesnake USED to be the best PVE ship as with no need for an injector it could then mount a superior tank however the maelstrom with good slots and a built in shield booster bonus IMHO surpases it if all your looking for is a NPC tanker.
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Sentinel x
Caldari Short Attention Span Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2007.05.13 06:59:00 -
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lol? No. The rattlesnake just has a better tank. Thats it. Cnr has 7 launchers. 7 > 6 launchers. Woo 4 damage mods. Go go gadget stacking penalty. 3 estamel bcu and 7 launchers is better for dps. Only reason a rattlesnake is so popular is cuz the blinking lights change colors. It was never worth 2b isk in my opinion.
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mematar
The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen
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Posted - 2007.05.13 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: subvert how rare is the rattlesnake, where does it come from/where do you get it, and what are its stats compared to the CNR?
You can buy a Rattlesnake with rigs and some fittings from me, and it's really cheap! ;p
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